What age to use androgens for frame

[apeyyyy08]

I’m currently on 9IU HGH 1mg arimdiex for height yet my clavicles are still not good, I’ve had to overdevelop my delts to combat this but rn I’m 17 15YO bone age, at which point should I incorporate androgens for frame?

 

[bddcoper]

now

 

[bddcoper]

and your clavicles aren't good because you're a manlet

 

[apeyyyy08]

and your clavicles aren't good because you're a manlet

I don’t think so bro I’m 5’10-11 which is average but my clavicles are proportionally narrow

 

[vision_n]

I’m currently on 9IU HGH 1mg arimdiex for height yet my clavicles are still not good, I’ve had to overdevelop my delts to combat this but rn I’m 17 15YO bone age, at which point should I incorporate androgens for frame?

test tren and ancills

 

[bddcoper]

I don’t think so bro I’m 5’10-11 which is average but my clavicles are proportionally narrow

okay good so just wait my frame didn't get noticeably wide until i started roids in january when i was 20

ive also done GH but like 3-4 IUs nightly. it doesn't rlly matter i think as androgens and higher e2 increase igf1 expression. otherwise i had a narrow frame i added ~2 inches to my frame since then. even if my clavicle growth has been stunted my frame is still very good for my height weight and body fat % tho idt i would've become this wide without steroids for at least another few years

 

[apeyyyy08]

okay good so just wait my frame didn't get noticeably wide until i started roids in january when i was 20

ive also done GH but like 3-4 IUs nightly. it doesn't rlly matter i think as androgens and higher e2 increase igf1 expression. otherwise i had a narrow frame i added ~2 inches to my frame since then. even if my clavicle growth has been stunted my frame is still very good for my height weight and body fat % tho idt i would've become this wide without steroids for at least another few years

Ty bro