What ai do i hop on

[infrainfra]

purely for heightmaxxing

letrozole is an option and 2.5mg of letro is known to nuke e2 into 18-20pg ideal range in studies. but if my parents take my shit or im gone for vacation wont it cause a bounce back? like a 2 week vacation off aromatase inhibitors. i think u should take letro every 3-4 days.

i was also thinking about a suicidal ai like exemestane. to not have to worry wbout bouncing back too much.

also if im going to get estrogen bloodtests in my country (expensive) do i take them before hopping on an ai or after? no i cant do it twice.

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

exemestane to be on the safe side imo. estrogen rebound is not worth it if you can just get aromasin

 

[iblamejm]

Ffs please dont hop on letrozole it crashes ur e2 levels, start on 6.25mg of aromasin bro

 

[boxing-cel]

Aromasin boosts T too so def that

 

[Zagro]

Aromasin boosts T too so def that

How do you think aromasin boosts t

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Letro for height is good, just dont be a retard

 

[cyrixxy]

purely for heightmaxxing

letrozole is an option and 2.5mg of letro is known to nuke e2 into 18-20pg ideal range in studies. but if my parents take my shit or im gone for vacation wont it cause a bounce back? like a 2 week vacation off aromatase inhibitors. i think u should take letro every 3-4 days.

i was also thinking about a suicidal ai like exemestane. to not have to worry wbout bouncing back too much.

also if im going to get estrogen bloodtests in my country (expensive) do i take them before hopping on an ai or after? no i cant do it twice.

Well take it the test after you start using ai, then you know if you need to up/lower the dose or keep it the same. How expensive is an E2 test in your country

 

[boxing-cel]

How do you think aromasin boosts t

Pharmacokinetics and dose finding of a potent aromatase inhibitor, aromasin (exemestane), in young males - PubMed

Suppression of estrogen, via estrogen receptor or aromatase blockade, is being investigated in the treatment of different conditions. Exemestane (Aromasin) is a potent and selective irreversible aromatase inhibitor. To characterize its suppression of estrogen and its pharmacokinetic (PK)...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Zagro]

Pharmacokinetics and dose finding of a potent aromatase inhibitor, aromasin (exemestane), in young males - PubMed

Suppression of estrogen, via estrogen receptor or aromatase blockade, is being investigated in the treatment of different conditions. Exemestane (Aromasin) is a potent and selective irreversible aromatase inhibitor. To characterize its suppression of estrogen and its pharmacokinetic (PK)...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

@PharmaPhaggot i love people on this site bro dude thinks this only happens with aromasin and doesn't know it's much more significant with letro

muhh anavar showed height growth in 8 year olds so anavar is the best androgen

 

[boxing-cel]

@PharmaPhaggot i love people on this site bro dude thinks this only happens with aromasin and doesn't know it's much more significant with letro

muhh anavar showed height growth in 8 year olds so anavar is the best androgen

Letro has other issues

 

[Zagro]

Letro has other issues

tell me i wanna have a laugh

 

[boxing-cel]

tell me i wanna have a laugh

Ask gpt or smth

 

[Zagro]

Ask gpt or smth

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Writing "chat gpt" should just be an automatic perma atp

 

[boxing-cel]

Not that complicated retard there’s a reason barely anyone uses it

 

[Zagro]

Not that complicated retard there’s a reason barely anyone uses it

tell me then you're the all knowing 2022 user high iq

 

[boxing-cel]

tell me then you're the all knowing 2022 user high iq

I literally talk to pro bodybuilders sometimes and all of them use Aromasin if they ever use an AI

Censored face cuz I was chopped and bloated and 20% bf at the time and don’t wanna show

I haven’t talked to a single one who uses Let

 

[boxing-cel]

I literally talk to pro bodybuilders sometimes and all of them use Aromasin if they ever use an AI

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I haven’t talked to a single one who uses Let

As I said u can ask GPT I cba to spell it out

 

[Zagro]

I literally talk to pro bodybuilders sometimes and all of them use Aromasin if they ever use an AI

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I haven’t talked to a single one who uses Let

I've talked to samson, ronnie, wesley and some others does that mean I'm credible? You should now listen to every piece of advice i give out with your logic

Are you illiterate? "purely for heightmaxxing"

 

[Zagro]

As I said u can ask GPT I cba to spell it out

It's because you're blindly following advice and don't know shit maybe?

 

[boxing-cel]

I've talked to samson, ronnie, wesley and some others does that mean I'm credible? You should now listen to every piece of advice i give out with your logic

Are you illiterate? "purely for heightmaxxing"

It doesn’t matter…e2 is e2

 

[boxing-cel]

It's because you're blindly following advice and don't know shit maybe?

I’ve been in the Roid sphere game longer than you’ve been lifting bud

I’m natty tho

 

[Zagro]

It doesn’t matter…e2 is e2

Do you know that bodybuilders usually keep E2 high if not pre comp? Of course they prefer aromasin

I’ve been in the Roid sphere game longer than you’ve been lifting bud

I’m natty tho

Does that make you credible? Would you take the advice of a doctor from the 1950s? I mean he's been in the game longer no?

That second phrase is the cherry on top "I don't have experience"

 

[boxing-cel]

Do you know that bodybuilders usually keep E2 high if not pre comp? Of course they prefer aromasin


Does that make you credible? Would you take the advice of a doctor from the 1950s? I mean he's been in the game longer no?

That second phrase is the cherry on top "I don't have experience"

Low IQ if you think you need to take a drug to have knowledge about it

Letro and Aromasin both lower E2

One crushes it more than needed, E2 is good, crushes lipids, much harder to dose and manage due to rebound risk

Even if you want to heightmax it’s retarded to use Letro when you achieve the exact same thing with Aromasin with much less risk and issues

 

[Zagro]

Low IQ if you think you need to take a drug to have knowledge about it

Letro and Aromasin both lower E2

One crushes it more than needed, E2 is good, crushes lipids, much harder to dose and manage due to rebound risk

Even if you want to heightmax it’s retarded to use Letro when you achieve the exact same thing with Aromasin with much less risk and issues

I had a stroke tryna understand that first phrase, but it's like spreading information on compounds when you learnt about them off tiktok

You need to "crush" E2 for height retard, tell me why E2 is good, "rebound risk" completely your problem, not harder to dose do you know splitting pills exists

You don't know anything about heightmaxxing why are you speaking on about it? Letrozole work tens of folds better than exemestane for local E2, that's what matter for height not systemic E2. No shit something that lowers E2 more has more negative effects on your body, and all of those are E2-mediated Maybe it's because letro mogs

 

[boxing-cel]

I had a stroke tryna understand that first phrase, but it's like spreading information on compounds when you learnt about them off tiktok

You need to "crush" E2 for height retard, tell me why E2 is good, "rebound risk" completely your problem, not harder to dose do you know splitting pills exists

You don't know anything about heightmaxxing why are you speaking on about it? Letrozole work tens of folds better than exemestane for local E2, that's what matter for height not systemic E2. No shit something that lowers E2 more has more negative effects on your body, and all of those are E2-mediated Maybe it's because letro mogs

You don’t need to crush your e2 to heightmax lmao, you need to keep it in a certain range which is very different to making it go near zero which will fuck up your development

If you seriously don’t know how E2 is an incredibly important hormone this conversation isn’t worth having.

 

[Zagro]

You don’t need to crush your e2 to heightmax lmao, you need to keep it in a certain range which is very different to making it go near zero which will fuck up your development

Tell me how it fucks up development

You need to crush E2 if your intention is more height, otherwise most males are already in an "ideal range" in your eyes which is prolly 20pg

 

[boxing-cel]

Tell me how it fucks up development

You need to crush E2 if your intention is more height, otherwise most males are already in an "ideal range" in your eyes which is prolly 20pg

The range varies depending on age. 10-20 during Tanner Stage 3 and 20-25 during Stage 4 would be best.


Going to 0 is stupid…

It means less height growth.

E2 stimulates IGF-1 and GH. What do you think happens when there’s none of it?

Not to mention the bone density loss, joint issues, lipids, neuroprotective loss

 

[Zagro]

The range varies depending on age. 10-20 during Tanner Stage 3 and 20-30 during Stage 4 would be best.


Going to 0 is stupid…

It means less height growth.

E2 stimulates IGF-1 and GH. What do you think happens when there’s none of it?

Not to mention the bone density loss, joint issues, lipids, neuroprotective loss

Above 20pg is proven to stunt growth in an accelerated manner, estrogen itself is the only thing that stunts growth which is through local e2 in the growth plates, you're trying to mimic physiologic levels of E2 which is fucking hilarious Our goal is to lower it.

Going to 0 is the goal, it means more height growth the only thing that closes plates is mediated through estrogen

Your SYSTEMIC igf-1 levels drop no shit but that 50ng drop is worth it no one cares, do you think it's all mediated through estrogen. One really simple logical fallacy why do aromatase deficient individuals (unmeasurably low levels of E2) grow significantly above their predicted height and well into their 20s? B-but they should have no growth factors?

Temporary bone density loss which means nothing for height and also you would have around 1.2k serum T, it's more likely your BMD will be above baseline. Yeah bro miss out on height because of joint pain horrible side-effect, near death experience bro. Only evidence for it raping lipids: postmenopausal women with existing morbidities like fucking cancer. Letrozole doesn't do anything to your cognition and development it might even benefit it honestly cause it doesn't interrupt local e2 in the brain

 

[boxing-cel]

Above 20pg is proven to stunt growth in an accelerated manner, estrogen itself is the only thing that stunts growth which is through local e2 in the growth plates, you're trying to mimic physiologic levels of E2 which is fucking hilarious Our goal is to lower it.

Going to 0 is the goal, it means more height growth the only thing that closes plates is mediated through estrogen

Your SYSTEMIC igf-1 levels drop no shit but that 50ng drop is worth it no one cares, do you think it's all mediated through estrogen. One really simple logical fallacy why do aromatase deficient individuals (unmeasurably low levels of E2) grow significantly above their predicted height and well into their 20s? B-but they should have no growth factors?

Temporary bone density loss which means nothing for height and also you would have around 1.2k serum T, it's more likely your BMD will be above baseline. Yeah bro miss out on height because of joint pain horrible side-effect, near death experience bro. Only evidence for it raping lipids: postmenopausal women with existing morbidities like fucking cancer. Letrozole doesn't do anything to your cognition and development it might even benefit it honestly cause it doesn't interrupt local e2 in the brain

The drop isn’t the issue the issue is the GH-Receptor sensitivity dude. If you don’t have the local e2 signal the growth cells in the plate divide a lot slower. So even if your serum levels drop a lot or little you’re still fucked

Anyways Letro crossed the blood brain barrier lol so idk why you think it won’t do anything to your development. Literally used to treat brain cancer.

E2 being crushed always drops your HDL-2, so your heart is fucked. Jfl if you think Letro does nothing to lipids.

 

[Zagro]

growth cells in the plate divide a lot slower.

That’s the fucking point

Slower is always better than faster, more time for proliferation to take place and doesn’t deplete resting zone chondrocytes as fast

Anyways Letro crossed the blood brain barrier lol so idk why you think it won’t do anything to your development. Literally used to treat brain cancer.

Never has been used to treat brain cancer

It passes BBB by 3%

Breast cancer is the main one and arguably only, b-but bro it’s used for brain cancer, show me one paper retard you keep claiming random shit: get debunked: add on to the claim and then repeat till the other person gives off because of how retarded you are

“No significant differences between the letrozole- and placebo-treated boys in development of cognitive performance were found in any of the tests during the follow-up period”

Cognitive effects of aromatase inhibitor therapy in peripubertal boys - PubMed

Our results suggest that blockade of oestrogen biosynthesis with an aromatase inhibitor does not influence cognitive performance in peripubertal males.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I can actually back my claims up unlike you, “but bro this random bodybuilder told me so”

I’m tired honestly you couldn’t make one half-decent claim because you have zero knowledge nor do you possess any experience, random retard

 

[boxing-cel]

That’s the fucking point

Slower is always better than faster, more time for proliferation to take place and doesn’t deplete resting zone chondrocytes as fast


Never has been used to treat brain cancer

It passes BBB by 3%

Breast cancer is the main one and arguably only, b-but bro it’s used for brain cancer, show me one paper retard you keep claiming random shit: get debunked: add on to the claim and then repeat till the other person gives off because of how retarded you are

“No significant differences between the letrozole- and placebo-treated boys in development of cognitive performance were found in any of the tests during the follow-up period”

Cognitive effects of aromatase inhibitor therapy in peripubertal boys - PubMed

Our results suggest that blockade of oestrogen biosynthesis with an aromatase inhibitor does not influence cognitive performance in peripubertal males.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I can actually back my claims up unlike you, “but bro this random bodybuilder told me so”

I’m tired honestly you couldn’t make one half-decent claim because you have zero knowledge nor do you possess any experience, random retard

You’re assuming that extending the duration of growth like it just continues forever lmao will lead to more inches than a normal, high velocity growth spurt. Without the IGF1 to fuel the plates you’ll slow to a crawl. Growth is fucked.

Dogshit study. 28 boys. Only 2 years, pre puberty. And no measure of the things E2 actually effects.

This is what happens when you have zero experience in pharmacology and read random studies.

Lol

Letro is being used in brain cancer trials for GBM.

Researchers open a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glioblastomas - ecancer

A multidisciplinary team of University of Cincinnati Cancer Center researchers have opened a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glio

ecancer.org

Can’t stand dumb teenage fag know it alls

And not to mention spinal issues

Vertebral morphology in aromatase inhibitor-treated males with idiopathic short stature or constitutional delay of puberty - PubMed

Aromatase inhibitors (AIs), blockers of estrogen biosynthesis, delay bone maturation and therefore are used increasingly to promote growth in children and adolescents with growth disorders. The effects of treatment on skeletal health are largely unknown. Since estrogen deficiency is associated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Zagro]

You’re assuming that extending the duration of growth like it just continues forever lmao will lead to more inches than a normal, high velocity growth spurt. Without the IGF1 to fuel the plates you’ll slow to a crawl. Growth is fucked.

Dogshit study. 28 boys. Only 2 years, pre puberty. And no measure of the things E2 actually effects.

This is what happens when you have zero experience in pharmacology and read random studies.

Lol

Letro is being used in brain cancer trials for GBM.

Researchers open a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glioblastomas - ecancer

A multidisciplinary team of University of Cincinnati Cancer Center researchers have opened a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glio

ecancer.org

Can’t stand dumb teenage fag know it alls

And not to mention spinal issues

Vertebral morphology in aromatase inhibitor-treated males with idiopathic short stature or constitutional delay of puberty - PubMed

Aromatase inhibitors (AIs), blockers of estrogen biosynthesis, delay bone maturation and therefore are used increasingly to promote growth in children and adolescents with growth disorders. The effects of treatment on skeletal health are largely unknown. Since estrogen deficiency is associated...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Took you 40 minutes to debunk my claims with ChatGPT pretty fast man good job putting those prompts in

“no measure of the things E2 actually effects” tell me what it affects then retard

“Researchers open a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glioblastomas” read the title is it a confirmed treatment? No blud sent me a fucking blog

“Without the IGF1 to fuel the plates you’ll slow to a crawl. Growth is fucked.” dumb ass moron still thinks low E2 levels just zeros your IGF-1 levels it’s the same as when you take an antibiotic arguably you retard

“AI therapy during prepuberty or early puberty” tell me one user that takes aromatase inhibitors and is in early puberty, being under 13 is banned you pajeet there’s no prepubescent here

“Only 2 years” goes on to send me a study that states “Males with idiopathic short stature received treatment with letrozole or placebo for 2 years during prepuberty or early puberty”

“28 boys” send me a study that states “in 5 of 11 (45%) letrozole-treated subjects” 11 bud 28 is 2-fold your cohort



Interesting how placebo patients have more total abnormalities/deformities compared to letrozole innit?

Hmm maybe it’s because they aren’t healthy baseline and have ISS which could mean a boat load of different shit.

“Endplate deformities were found in 2 subjects treated with letrozole and in 5 subjects treated with placebo” funny how placebo experiences twice the deformities without letrozole administration

@PharmaPhaggot read this one it’s funneh he acts all cocky and shit feeling superior after giving GPT 30 prompts just to get his ass cheeks clapped

“This is what happens when you have zero experience in pharmacology and read random studies” ironic as fuckkk

Don’t ever try son

 

[boxing-cel]

Took you 40 minutes to debunk my claims with ChatGPT pretty fast man good job putting those prompts in

“no measure of the things E2 actually effects” tell me what it affects then retard

“Researchers open a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glioblastomas” read the title is it a confirmed treatment? No blud sent me a fucking blog

“Without the IGF1 to fuel the plates you’ll slow to a crawl. Growth is fucked.” dumb ass moron still thinks low E2 levels just zeros your IGF-1 levels it’s the same as when you take an antibiotic arguably you retard

“AI therapy during prepuberty or early puberty” tell me one user that takes aromatase inhibitors and is in early puberty, being under 13 is banned you pajeet there’s no prepubescent here

“Only 2 years” goes on to send me a study that states “Males with idiopathic short stature received treatment with letrozole or placebo for 2 years during prepuberty or early puberty”

“28 boys” send me a study that states “in 5 of 11 (45%) letrozole-treated subjects” 11 bud 28 is 2-fold your cohort

View attachment 4812264

Interesting how placebo patients have more total abnormalities/deformities compared to letrozole innit?

Hmm maybe it’s because they aren’t healthy baseline and have ISS which could mean a boat load of different shit.

“Endplate deformities were found in 2 subjects treated with letrozole and in 5 subjects treated with placebo” funny how placebo experiences twice the deformities without letrozole administration

@PharmaPhaggot read this one it’s funneh he acts all cocky and shit feeling superior after giving GPT 30 prompts just to get his ass cheeks clapped

“This is what happens when you have zero experience in pharmacology and read random studies” ironic as fuckkk

Don’t ever try son

the way you type pisses me off so I’m going to put you on ignore. Cya fag. Can’t stand retards I’d make bark for me IRL acting tough online.

 

[Zagro]

the way you type pisses me off so I’m going to put you on ignore. Cya fag. Can’t stand retards I’d make bark for me IRL acting tough online.

pov: niggas after getting anally penetrated by a teenager in an argument, whilst having all their counter-argument made by GPT and not reading a molecule and just copying and pasting shit

Blud thinks that physique will save his absolute subhuman face, cope all you want retard no shit that “htb” ignored you to death you look like my left ballsack and apparently know about lookism since 2022

You look like you study IT

The second some twink pulls out a knife you’ll even suck his cock or take backshots just to save your life, don’t act tough stupid little bitch some random low life is enough to literally fuck you in the ass

 

[introvertedextrover]

aromamamamamasin

 

[Stacyslayerᛉ]

Took you 40 minutes to debunk my claims with ChatGPT pretty fast man good job putting those prompts in

“no measure of the things E2 actually effects” tell me what it affects then retard

“Researchers open a phase 2 clinical trial to test a new combination treatment for glioblastomas” read the title is it a confirmed treatment? No blud sent me a fucking blog

“Without the IGF1 to fuel the plates you’ll slow to a crawl. Growth is fucked.” dumb ass moron still thinks low E2 levels just zeros your IGF-1 levels it’s the same as when you take an antibiotic arguably you retard

“AI therapy during prepuberty or early puberty” tell me one user that takes aromatase inhibitors and is in early puberty, being under 13 is banned you pajeet there’s no prepubescent here

“Only 2 years” goes on to send me a study that states “Males with idiopathic short stature received treatment with letrozole or placebo for 2 years during prepuberty or early puberty”

“28 boys” send me a study that states “in 5 of 11 (45%) letrozole-treated subjects” 11 bud 28 is 2-fold your cohort

View attachment 4812264

Interesting how placebo patients have more total abnormalities/deformities compared to letrozole innit?

Hmm maybe it’s because they aren’t healthy baseline and have ISS which could mean a boat load of different shit.

“Endplate deformities were found in 2 subjects treated with letrozole and in 5 subjects treated with placebo” funny how placebo experiences twice the deformities without letrozole administration

@PharmaPhaggot read this one it’s funneh he acts all cocky and shit feeling superior after giving GPT 30 prompts just to get his ass cheeks clapped

“This is what happens when you have zero experience in pharmacology and read random studies” ironic as fuckkk

Don’t ever try son

Lmfao best read today. Thanks Zag

Fuaaaark

 

[infrainfra]

That’s the fucking point

Slower is always better than faster, more time for proliferation to take place and doesn’t deplete resting zone chondrocytes as fast


Never has been used to treat brain cancer

It passes BBB by 3%

Breast cancer is the main one and arguably only, b-but bro it’s used for brain cancer, show me one paper retard you keep claiming random shit: get debunked: add on to the claim and then repeat till the other person gives off because of how retarded you are

“No significant differences between the letrozole- and placebo-treated boys in development of cognitive performance were found in any of the tests during the follow-up period”

Cognitive effects of aromatase inhibitor therapy in peripubertal boys - PubMed

Our results suggest that blockade of oestrogen biosynthesis with an aromatase inhibitor does not influence cognitive performance in peripubertal males.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I can actually back my claims up unlike you, “but bro this random bodybuilder told me so”

I’m tired honestly you couldn’t make one half-decent claim because you have zero knowledge nor do you possess any experience, random retard

wait so to summarize the whole conversation with the other guy arguing with you. you think letrozole is best? what dose should i 64kg at 16 take? what dose are u on? what about exemestane and aromasin. the only reason i havent ordered letro yet is because im scared of my parents taking my shit and me having a „bounce back” and getting super high e2. honestly if my parents tried to take my Ai’s once ive started taking them id throw hands. worse if i go on vacation and need to smuggle the drugs on plane. thats why i was thinking exemestane

 

[ChudReceptor]

wait so to summarize the whole conversation with the other guy arguing with you. you think letrozole is best? what dose should i 64kg at 16 take? what dose are u on? what about exemestane and aromasin. the only reason i havent ordered letro yet is because im scared of my parents taking my shit and me having a „bounce back” and getting super high e2. honestly if my parents tried to take my Ai’s once ive started taking them id throw hands. worse if i go on vacation and need to smuggle the drugs on plane. thats why i was thinking exemestane

yeah if you need to be away and fear not being able to take AI go with aromasin. then go back to letrozole, i assume there is minimal risk if you were to switch AI but im not as well versed in pharma as the HGH Chads in this forum.