What are the Flaws?

[Mansur]

Ive seen Tomothee Chalamet getting flamed for his Side profile, beeing super recessed, short ramus etc

However when comparing his Side to others with somewhat similar ratios It fully outmoggs them, and Id even say Its above average in a sense

I believe the radix, submental and the lip area is what makes his Side appear balanced

Since his Chin projection is good, as well as relative to his lips

Theoretically the other Side profile would be better ratio wise, as it has the ideal nasofrontal angle/ better ramus length

Convexities are like a 3 degree difference

Imo Id much rather have a higher nasofrontal but with a well developed radix than the other way around

His ramus also doesnt appear too short, from my perspective at least, maybe im blinded by the ideal gonial angle

Also doesnt look like a typical bird

What are your thoughts

Harmony wise Tomothee scores 3.6 and the other dude surprisingly a 6.5 roughly

 

[pexy]

that’s crazy

timothee’s looks way better to be honest

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

shit ramus length, a subhuman chink nasofrontal, fails almost all lips assesments, gonial angle to straight, a reccesion from frankfurtplane and his convexities are bad

 

[Mansur]

that’s crazy

timothee’s looks way better to be honest

Thats what I was thinking, Ig harmony will never be truly measureable even beeing off by 1-2 points

3.6 and 6.5 in what world lmao, should literally be the opposite

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Harmony wise Tomothee scores 3.6 and the other dude surprisingly a 6.5 roughly

faceiqlabs is kinda cope tbh

 

[Mansur]

shit ramus length, a subhuman chink nasofrontal, fails almost all lips assesments, gonial angle to straight, a reccesion from frankfurtplane and his convexities are bad

his lip assesment look fine ngl, and a nasofrontal angle caused by the lack of browridge is worse than from an overprojected radix imo

The problem with the convexities is, that the other dudes has similar convexities yet scores much higher

What would you personally say which is better though

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

his lip assesment look fine ngl, and a nasofrontal angle caused by the lack of browridge is worse than from an overprojected radix imo

yes i made a mistake, he pass almost every lips assesments,

The problem with the convexities is, that the other dudes has similar convexities yet scores much higher

What would you personally say which is better though

did you measure all manually or using AI like faceiqlabs?
i think he scores to low because his lower thid is very bad
no ramus
slightly bad gonial angle
gonion to mouth
reccesion
etc

 

[Mansur]

yes i made a mistake, he pass almost every lips assesments,

did you measure all manually or using AI like faceiqlabs?
i think he scores to low because his lower thid is very bad
no ramus
slightly bad gonial angle
gonion to mouth
reccesion
etc

his ramus is super short when taking his measurements but it doesnt look too bad imo

Gonion to mouth, gonial angle are fine

Faceiq did an analysis of him

What would you personally say which is better though

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

his ramus is super short when taking his measurements but it doesnt look too bad imo

Gonion to mouth, gonial angle are fine

Faceiq did an analysis of him

his shitty AI in web marked Gonion mouth very bad, Gonial angle is fine, true, im making to much mistakes because im not really used to rate sides like fronts

 

[Mansur]

his shitty AI in web marked Gonion mouth very bad, Gonial angle is fine, true, im making to much mistakes because im not really used to rate sides like fronts

Ive done many faces, will come with experience, the submental ratio and the frankfort plane are just so stupid ways of measuring

Completely depends on your posture as well as your ear placement

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Ive done many faces, will come with experience, the submental ratio and the frankfort plane are just so stupid ways of measuring

Completely depends on your posture as well as your ear placement

very true, submental depends of bf too