What are the most optimal chest and shoulder workouts?

[SkinnyFatman]

Is there any compound exercises that hit both chest and shoulders?

If not one of the most optimal ones for both and what's the proper form that I should be using to get the most out of my workout?

 

[kzch72]

chest flies, lateral raises, shoulder press, all machine preferably.

 

[SkinnyFatman]

chest flies, lateral raises, shoulder press, all machine preferably.

If I don't have a machine will it work the same?
Or will I need to like really focus on my form?

 

[kzch72]

If I don't have a machine will it work the same?
Or will I need to like really focus on my form?

You'll be fine with cables, dumbbells will work as well but due it would be hard to progress. Form shouldn't really be a concern for these exercises

 

[SkinnyFatman]

You'll be fine with cables, dumbbells will work as well but due it would be hard to progress. Form shouldn't really be a concern for these exercises

Oh bet, thanks my guy