What are yalls thoughts on this

[59H390]

I’m debating with a user

He has not gone to the gym ever but is hopping on

I say this is a bad idea because he is sacrificing his health for something he can get naturally at first and because he hasn’t tested his genetics to see if they are good enough that hopping on will yield a good ROI

He says it’s dumb to wait to get natural gains when u can speed it up with gear

Im not against gear just dont think u should do it without getting naturally maxed first

@savage21

 

[59H390]

@egyptiansub5

 

[Notcel]

my opinion doesnt matter since im a loser

 

[59H390]

my opinion doesnt matter since im a loser

Oh ok

 

[savage21]

I’m debating with a user

He has not gone to the gym ever but is hopping on

I say this is a bad idea because he is sacrificing his health for something he can get naturally at first and because he hasn’t tested his genetics to see if they are good enough that hopping on will yield a good ROI

He says it’s dumb to wait to get natural gains when u can speed it up with gear

Im not against gear just dont think u should do it without getting naturally maxed first

@savage21

I can see both sides tbh. If he wants mogger physique fast he can hop on gear immediately. Likely his genetics won’t be that insane that he doesn’t have to hop on gear.

On the other hand, it depends what he’s aiming for. If it’s just a decent lean physique, then yeah he should wait.

 

[59H390]

I can see both sides tbh. If he wants mogger physique fast he can hop on gear immediately. Likely his genetics won’t be that insane that he doesn’t have to hop on gear.

On the other hand, it depends what he’s aiming for. If it’s just a decent lean physique, then yeah he should wait.

If u don’t have good genetics already then gear won’t give u a good physique

 

[59H390]

I can see both sides tbh. If he wants mogger physique fast he can hop on gear immediately. Likely his genetics won’t be that insane that he doesn’t have to hop on gear.

On the other hand, it depends what he’s aiming for. If it’s just a decent lean physique, then yeah he should wait.

If u don’t have good genetics already then gear won’t give u a good physique

That’s why I say u should test to see if u have good genetics or not before jumping right into a life changing decision

 

[egyptiansub5]

I’m debating with a user

He has not gone to the gym ever but is hopping on

I say this is a bad idea because he is sacrificing his health for something he can get naturally at first and because he hasn’t tested his genetics to see if they are good enough that hopping on will yield a good ROI

He says it’s dumb to wait to get natural gains when u can speed it up with gear

Im not against gear just dont think u should do it without getting naturally maxed first

@savage21

theres no debating lmao i said everyone has different opinions and u provided no science behind it but a user provided science and i actually agreed w him @shessonice and i decided to adapt my body for a few more month then hop on not to reach my natty limit but to get use to the movements and exercises so i dont get injured

 

[savage21]

If u don’t have good genetics already then gear won’t give u a good physique

That’s why I say u should test to see if u have good genetics or not before jumping right into a life changing decision

Fair enough. I think it’s just preference tbh.

 

[SaintDofoune]

I say this is a bad idea because he is sacrificing his health for something he can get naturally at first and because he hasn’t tested his genetics to see if they are good enough that hopping on will yield a good ROI

What type of physique is he aiming for?

 

[ssxjdgh]

That’s why I say u should test to see if u have good genetics or not before jumping right into a life changing decision

You won't make much gains naturally other than newbie gains.

 

[egyptiansub5]

That’s why I say u should test to see if u have good genetics or not before jumping right into a life changing decision

i would do whatever to ascend lmao having a physique halo at my age would increase my overall smv to htn i see where ur points coming from tho and as i already said i respect it rhe retarded part is the 2 years part

 

[59H390]

. I think it’s just preference tbh

Wym?
No preference for genetics

 

[Yliaster]

theres no debating lmao i said everyone has different opinions and u provided no science behind it but a user provided science and i actually agreed w him @shessonice and i decided to adapt my body for a few more month then hop on not to reach my natty limit but to get use to the movements and exercises so i dont get injured

how old are you ?

 

[59H390]

You won't make much gains naturally other than newbie gains.

what are u talking about bro

 

[59H390]

i would do whatever to ascend lmao having a physique halo at my age would increase my overall smv to htn i see where ur points coming from tho and as i already said i respect it rhe retarded part is the 2 years part

Why?

If u don’t even find the gym fun then u won’t be putting in effort while on hear

Just cause ur on gear isn’t gonna change the fact that u hate the gym and don’t try lol

That’s pretty imprortant, actually training and putting effort into it

 

[savage21]

Wym?
No preference for genetics

Nah I agree with your genetic point. Was just saying overall, I think it’s preference whether to blast when starting or going natty max and then blasting

 

[ssxjdgh]

what are u talking about bro

As I said.

 

[59H390]

As I said.

that makes no sense

 

[egyptiansub5]

what are u talking about bro

anyways since u wanna see my geneitxs ima show u s pic back during my swimming days i have good insertions due to my years of competitive swimming
this is me w only fitness and swimming
as in fitness i mean swimming drills outside the water

 

[59H390]

As I said.

Also I’m the only one allowed to have Pattinson on my avi so ur gonna have to change it lil bud

 

[xX_ovrb4itstrtd_Xx]

would take at least half a year to see if you have good genetics, could do it but also thats a kinda long time

would be better to run a small, safe SARM cycle and see what the results are from that to determine the genetics if hes truly never lifted

maybe an 8 week 10 lgd-4033 cycle, or even fucking mk-677 if you really wanna play it safe (and cheap)

 

[ssxjdgh]

Also I’m the only one allowed to have Pattinson on my avi so ur gonna have to change it lil bud

You have a David Laid pic I'm sure you'll be fine

 

[egyptiansub5]

Why?

If u don’t even find the gym fun then u won’t be putting in effort while on hear

Just cause ur on gear isn’t gonna change the fact that u hate the gym and don’t try lol

That’s pretty imprortant, actually training and putting effort into it

bro just cause i dont enjoy it doesnt mean i wont train hard enough u dont know me and u dont know how disciplined i am due to swimming and life

 

[59H390]

anyways since u wanna see my geneitxs ima show u s pic back during my swimming days i have good insertions due to my years of competitive swimming
this is me w only fitness and swimming
as in fitness i mean swimming drills outside the water
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I wouldn’t say good insertions tbh

Not trying to be a dick just being honest

Also to see how good ur genetics are u have to actually train hypertrophy to see how much muscle u build

 

[59H390]

You have a David Laid pic I'm sure you'll be fine

Well I’m the only one allowed to have Pattinson avi btw so u gonna have to change it

 

[Just Blast]

testosterone enhances the quality of life regardless of if your going to the gym on cycle or not, in my opinion if the guy is low test he should hop on. low levels are the killer of a man

 

[Just Blast]

^ assuming this is a perfectly healthy MAN (not 13-16 yr old) who just never stepped foot in the gym

 

[59H390]

would take at least half a year to see if you have good genetics, could do it but also thats a kinda long time

would be better to run a small, safe SARM cycle and see what the results are from that to determine the genetics if hes truly never lifted

maybe an 8 week 10 lgd-4033 cycle, or even fucking mk-677 if you really wanna play it safe (and cheap)

This is genuinely the worst thing I’ve EVER read on the site @Zagro

 

[egyptiansub5]

I wouldn’t say good insertions tbh

Not trying to be a dick just being honest

Also to see how good ur genetics are u have to actually train hypertrophy to see how much muscle u build

ur opinion but multiple of my irl gymcelling friends said i have good insertions for a aesthetic body due to the effect of swimming on my body whicch lead to a long torso long ass arms and wide clavicles

 

[59H390]

ur opinion but multiple of my irl gymcelling friends said i have good insertions for a aesthetic body due to the effect of swimming on my body whicch lead to a long torso long ass arms and wide clavicles

Nah

U do not have wide clavicles

Again not being a dick just being honest

 

[egyptiansub5]

would take at least half a year to see if you have good genetics, could do it but also thats a kinda long time

would be better to run a small, safe SARM cycle and see what the results are from that to determine the genetics if hes truly never lifted

maybe an 8 week 10 lgd-4033 cycle, or even fucking mk-677 if you really wanna play it safe (and cheap)

alr nigga as much as i disgree with op what u just said is more retarded im not hoppin on mk or sarms with no test base

 

[Just Blast]

would take at least half a year to see if you have good genetics, could do it but also thats a kinda long time

would be better to run a small, safe SARM cycle and see what the results are from that to determine the genetics if hes truly never lifted

maybe an 8 week 10 lgd-4033 cycle, or even fucking mk-677 if you really wanna play it safe (and cheap)

 

[ssxjdgh]

Well I’m the only one allowed to have Pattinson avi btw so u gonna have to change it

You know there's someone else with a Pattison avi right?

 

[egyptiansub5]

Nah

U do not have wide clavicles

Again not being a dick just being honest

i measured it but i forget my measurement tbh anyways u have some science behind ur words i should wait a few months to adapt my body to the gym the only part i dont agree with is the 2 years part good talk tho bro

 

[egyptiansub5]

^ assuming this is a perfectly healthy MAN (not 13-16 yr old) who just never stepped foot in the gym

good thing im 17

 

[59H390]

You know there's someone else with a Pattison avi right?

I’m the only one allowed to

 

[Just Blast]

good thing im 17

yeah buddy don’t hop on
you just got steroids in your head right now
your gonna fuck the rest of your life up lmao

 

[xX_ovrb4itstrtd_Xx]

alr nigga as much as i disgree with op what u just said is more retarded im not hoppin on mk or sarms with no test base

obviously you would hop on lgd with enclo dirty boy...

and for mk, its pretty much just lifting natty with a minor boost in recovery. so if youre gonna do op's idea of lifting naturally and seeing if you have good genetics (which i think takes about 6 months) you could speed up that learning process with mk with literally no health risk added

This is genuinely the worst thing I’ve EVER read on the site @Zagro

alright bruh now youre gonna make me die on this hill tell me where im bugging

 

[egyptiansub5]

yeah buddy don’t hop on
you just got steroids in your head right now
your gonna fuck the rest of your life up lmao

nigga ur life wont get fucked up on 500mg test +im not some dork kid who just read a couple tiktoks im having bloodwork done im following up with multiple roided users for years now and i have a irl coach +i have all the proper ancalleirs and oct but i get where ur coming from seeing the amount of retards on here who think hgh grows bone everything im doing is researched and backed up by bloodwork and science

 

[shessonice]

would take at least half a year to see if you have good genetics, could do it but also thats a kinda long time

would be better to run a small, safe SARM cycle and see what the results are from that to determine the genetics if hes truly never lifted

maybe an 8 week 10 lgd-4033 cycle, or even fucking mk-677 if you really wanna play it safe (and cheap)

Why use a hepatotoxic compound? also mk does nothing for performance enhancement.


the only valid reason i can see is if he couldnt use needles for some reason.

 

[egyptiansub5]

obviously you would hop on lgd with enclo dirty boy...

and for mk, its pretty much just lifting natty with a minor boost in recovery. so if youre gonna do op's idea of lifting naturally and seeing if you have good genetics (which i think takes about 6 months) you could speed up that learning process with mk with literally no health risk added

alright bruh now youre gonna make me die on this hill tell me where im bugging

nah mk6777 made my friend explode he died in 4 pieces

 

[Just Blast]

nigga ur life wont get fucked up on 500mg test +im not some dork kid who just read a couple tiktoks im having bloodwork done im following up with multiple roided users for years now and i have a irl coach +i have all the proper ancalleirs and oct but i get where ur coming from seeing the amount of retards on here who think hgh grows bone everything im doing is researched and backed up by bloodwork and science

wanna see some proof hgh grows bone

yeah your life can 100% get fucked up if you go right into a blast after never touching the gym or a weight in your life
i saw your physique pic you look like a anorexic framlet
if you wanna fuck your hpta and tear your pec in 6 weeks be my guest bro
other than that i’m surprised a “irl coach” would even speak to you

 

[59H390]

wanna see some proof hgh grows bone

yeah your life can 100% get fucked up if you go right into a blast after never touching the gym or a weight in your life
i saw your physique pic you look like a anorexic framlet
if you wanna fuck your hpta and tear your pec in 6 weeks be my guest bro
other than that i’m surprised a “irl coach” would even speak to you

Rude way of putting it but not wrong

 

[egyptiansub5]

wanna see some proof hgh grows bone

yeah your life can 100% get fucked up if you go right into a blast after never touching the gym or a weight in your life
i saw your physique pic you look like a anorexic framlet
if you wanna fuck your hpta and tear your pec in 6 weeks be my guest bro
other than that i’m surprised a “irl coach” would even speak to you

ye i already decided to stay in the gym for a few more months before hopping on and my coach
+my frame is fine and thats the main reason im hopping on not to be a anorexic loser

 

[Just Blast]

Rude way of putting it but not wrong

he started it

 

[egyptiansub5]

Rude way of putting it but not wrong

as i told u for 4 times now i agree with the wait a little bit and ima wait now

 

[59H390]

as i told u for 4 times now i agree with the wait a little bit and ima wait now

Imo u shouldn’t do it at all if u don’t get much results naturally

But mirin

 

[egyptiansub5]

he started it

what did i start as i already said i respect all opinion's and obv if someone came to me with some proper scientific reasons behind it i would agree and thats exactly what happened and thats why i decided to wait

 

[Just Blast]

as i told u for 4 times now i agree with the wait a little bit and ima wait now

sorry for my anger and hostile tone
i thought you were attacking me
but if you want a diet plan and a good workout plan for beginners dm me i’m a free coach as of rn