What can i Add to My Stack

[0ptimized]

im looking for something more to add to my stack
im 15 and want something more for muscles and bones that dont directly fuck with my hormones too badly
(yes im scared of taking tesosterone)

current stack:
10-20 IUs HGH ED
12.5 mg Aromasin ED to EOD
5-8 mg Anavar ED to EOD

any suggestions on what i could add? i was thinking of a Ostarine and LGD cycle and just pray enclo brings my levels back

thoughts?

 

[9diz]

just take test and hcg during the cycle and post 2-3 weeks cycle depending on how long u was on it
then ur test levels wont crash as much and can be recovered

 

[0ptimized]

just take test and hcg during the cycle and post 2-3 weeks cycle depending on how long u was on it
then ur test levels wont crash as much and can be recovered

i feel like its so retarded to do that at 15 tho, would def have to TRT for life atp

 

[sherry12]

im looking for something more to add to my stack
im 15 and want something more for muscles and bones that dont directly fuck with my hormones too badly
(yes im scared of taking tesosterone)

current stack:
10-20 IUs HGH ED
12.5 mg Aromasin ED to EOD
5-8 mg Anavar ED to EOD

any suggestions on what i could add? i was thinking of a Ostarine and LGD cycle and just pray enclo brings my levels back

thoughts?

250 test

 

[9diz]

i feel like its so retarded to do that at 15 tho, would def have to TRT for life atp

yeah probably not so good at 15, maybe 16 or 17 once your face starts maturing, better benefits then ig for craniofacial structure

 

[TajManzoor]

im looking for something more to add to my stack
im 15 and want something more for muscles and bones that dont directly fuck with my hormones too badly
(yes im scared of taking tesosterone)

current stack:
10-20 IUs HGH ED
12.5 mg Aromasin ED to EOD
5-8 mg Anavar ED to EOD

any suggestions on what i could add? i was thinking of a Ostarine and LGD cycle and just pray enclo brings my levels back

thoughts?

Scared of test, buttttt….
Not scared of Accromeglady.
Or Crashed E2
Or Test Suppresion

Ok

 

[UndaDog]

Anavar but not Test?

 

[Zagro]

Retarded asf wow

 

[0ptimized]

Scared of test, buttttt….
Not scared of Accromeglady.
Or Crashed E2
Or Test Suppresion

Ok

are you fucking stupid? acromegaly? i swear these retards has to learn, so you think when people say HGH wont give you bone growth its gonna give you acromegaly?

fuckass bro i cant deal with this, to even get the slightest bit of acromegaly you would have to exsposed to super high levels of IGF-1 for years on end

i use Aromasin and i know how to not crash my shit got that under control

and what the fuck would cause test suppresion?

 

[0ptimized]

Anavar but not Test?

5-8mg EOD is not going to cause test supression

 

[0ptimized]

Retarded asf wow

normalize explaining perhaps

there is no denying that taking testosterone at such a young age is going to fuck up your endocrine system

 

[Zagro]

normalize explaining perhaps

there is no denying that taking testosterone at such a young age is going to fuck up your endocrine system

No you shouldn’t run anything with this iq

“Fuck up your endocrine system”

“Should i run lgd ostarine and anavar with no test base”

You are indeed retarded if you cant see the problem and the stack you’re running is already flawed

 

[UndaDog]

5-8mg EOD is not going to cause test supression

Testosterone is better in every single way except that it's more androgenic which is GOOD

 

[TajManzoor]

are you fucking stupid? acromegaly? i swear these retards has to learn, so you think when people say HGH wont give you bone growth its gonna give you acromegaly?

fuckass bro i cant deal with this, to even get the slightest bit of acromegaly you would have to exsposed to super high levels of IGF-1 for years on end

i use Aromasin and i know how to not crash my shit got that under control

and what the fuck would cause test suppresion?

Brother, you’re using 20IU of Hgh and you think agromeglady isn’t a risk, what about fucking soft tissue growth that you don’t want. There is no point in 20IU your body can’t even utilise it properly

Anavar will cause test suppression even if minor it’s still a thing you tard.

If your Using 12.5mg of aromasin every day with no test base while using Anavar, your gonna nuke your e2

 

[0ptimized]

No you shouldn’t run anything with this iq

“Fuck up your endocrine system”

“Should i run lgd ostarine and anavar with no test base”

You are indeed retarded if you cant see the problem and the stack you’re running is already flawed

this is not a matter of IQ, the fucking retarded ass motivated teenager running 10 different compunds is 10x the retard

using such a harsh androgen at a young age without super vision is guranteed to fuck something up no matter your IQ

i suggested using enclo on that lgd, ostarine and anavar cycle

whats the flaw in the current stack?

 

[Zagro]

this is not a matter of IQ, the fucking retarded ass motivated teenager running 10 different compunds is 10x the retard

using such a harsh androgen at a young age without super vision is guranteed to fuck something up no matter your IQ

i suggested using enclo on that lgd, ostarine and anavar cycle

whats the flaw in the current stack?

Hehe i wont tell you go fuck yourself up 100x worse than that “retard teen”, it will directly fuck your growth and whole body up every single development and also mentally

That retard teen atleast uses a test base

 

[0ptimized]

Testosterone is better in every single way except that it's more androgenic which is GOOD

no shit its better, i just dont wanna fuck myself with testosterone, its a great fucking compund i agree, but at 15 without monetoring sounds retarded

 

[UndaDog]

Brother, you’re using 20IU of Hgh and you think agromeglady isn’t a risk, what about fucking soft tissue growth that you don’t want. There is no point in 20IU your body can’t even utilise it properly

Anavar will cause test suppression even if minor it’s still a thing you tard.

If your Using 12.5mg of aromasin every day with no test base while using Anavar, your gonna nuke your e2

True igf-1 serum levels cap at 6iu of pharma grade hGH

 

[Zagro]

True igf-1 serum levels cap at 6iu of pharma grade hGH

No one cares about serum levels, gh and local igf still increase

 

[0ptimized]

Hehe i wont tell you go fuck yourself up 100x worse than that “retard teen”, it will directly fuck your growth and whole body up every single development and also mentally

That retard teen atleast uses a test base

injecting exogenous testosterone into your system at 15 years old during one of its peak years where its still developing, sounds like a great fucking idea, completly shutting off your balls and pray you even return to half of the levels you started at when you quit ggz.

12.5mg Aromasin isnt going to make me retarded even jewgpt agrees on that, HGH has very litlle effect on other hormones so im good there

 

[0ptimized]

True igf-1 serum levels cap at 6iu of pharma grade hGH

link me the article, cus this is just straight ficking BS

 

[UndaDog]

injecting exogenous testosterone into your system at 15 years old during one of its peak years where its still developing, sounds like a great fucking idea, completly shutting off your balls and pray you even return to half of the levels you started at when you quit ggz.

12.5mg Aromasin isnt going to make me retarded even jewgpt agrees on that, HGH has very litlle effect on other hormones so im good there

Peak years he's talking about takes you from 500ng≈ to 700ng≈ 500mg of Testosterone increases it by a tenfold

I'm 16yo started 500mg of Test E 10 weeks ago (I was 15 at that time) and got growth plates checked before and druing and guess what? NOTHING CHANGED LOL

Even got my bloodwork and semen checked which is another story because my dad caught me and forced me to do it, and came back all fine plus no testicular atrophy whatsoever

Kys dumb monkey

 

[Zagro]

link me the article, cus this is just straight ficking BS

Its almost true you idiot

injecting exogenous testosterone into your system at 15 years old during one of its peak years where its still developing, sounds like a great fucking idea, completly shutting off your balls and pray you even return to half of the levels you started at when you quit ggz.

12.5mg Aromasin isnt going to make me retarded even jewgpt agrees on that, HGH has very litlle effect on other hormones so im good there

I’m debating whether i should help you or let you fuck yourself up and it’s going to be the latter

 

[Zagro]

Peak years he's talking about takes you from 500ng≈ to 700ng≈ 500mg of Testosterone increases it by a tenfold

I'm 16yo started 500mg of Test E 10 weeks ago (I was 15 at that time) and got growth plates checked before and druing and guess what? NOTHING CHANGED LOL

Even got my bloodwork and semen checked which is another story because my dad caught me and forced me to do it, and came back all fine plus no testicular atrophy whatsoever

Kys dumb monkey

He doesn’t know that the oral steroids are 1000-fold worse for him than a testosterone base which is literally considered healthy

 

[0ptimized]

Its almost true you idiot


I’m debating whether i should help you or let you fuck yourself up and it’s going to be the latter

Please help bro

 

[Zagro]

Please help bro

Nah go on and call others retarded whilst you’re no different, larping high iq is fun innit

 

[0ptimized]

Peak years he's talking about takes you from 500ng≈ to 700ng≈ 500mg of Testosterone increases it by a tenfold

I'm 16yo started 500mg of Test E 10 weeks ago (I was 15 at that time) and got growth plates checked before and druing and guess what? NOTHING CHANGED LOL

Even got my bloodwork and semen checked which is another story because my dad caught me and forced me to do it, and came back all fine plus no testicular atrophy whatsoever

Kys dumb monkey

Sounds like you injected Cum and ratpiss

 

[0ptimized]

Nah go on and call others retarded whilst you’re no different, larping high iq is fun innit

Never claimed high iq but okay

 

[susisesi]

there is no denying that taking testosterone at such a young age is going to fuck up your endocrine system

Literally would sacrifice everything to be able to run test tren hgh when I was younger tbh. Maybe even dht derivatives which I won’t ever run because im old

i suggested using enclo on that lgd, ostarine and anavar cycle

Enclo is dogshit fucks your igf up just inject test.
Also you will %99 surpress your test even if you run enclo.

I'm 16yo started 500mg of Test E 10 weeks ago (I was 15 at that time)

High iq mirin

 

[0ptimized]

Literally would sacrifice everything to be able to run test tren hgh when I was younger tbh. Maybe even dht derivatives which I won’t ever run because im old



Enclo is dogshit fucks your igf up just inject test.
Also you will %99 surpress your test even if you run enclo.


High iq mirin

yea i mean i'd love high test and high DHT levels

i just feel like its either I'm rapping my height through chondrocyte prolification in epiphyseal growth plates or estrogen which can be blocked tho

or it would harm my endocrine system making me rely on TRT life out no?

 

[susisesi]

yea i mean i'd love high test and high DHT levels

i just feel like its either I'm rapping my height through chondrocyte prolification in epiphyseal growth plates or estrogen which can be blocked tho

or it would harm my endocrine system making me rely on TRT life out no?

To be honest, I was really really scared to turn off my endocrine system at first because I am a frequent traveller.

I was running 12IU HGH + Reta at that time.

Also the reason I started test is to literally be able to use tren. Idc about bodybuilding or anything, If I could get the igf effects even with no muscle gains etc from tren without test I would do that.

But the harsh reality is you need test base even if you microdose tren.

Also turning hypogandal is very rare and almost impossible if you run your cycle smart.

If I had my plates open I would probably (atleast) do these:

2.5mg letrozole ED (you can use other AIs too but letro mogs)

14+ IU HGH (As much as you can afford as long as possible tbh)

Test

Tren


There are some other stuff you could try but these 4 are probably the easiest to start off with or “bare minimum”


And a whole anchillary stack fot all these

Sucks but I can’t get height anymore because my plates fused at fucking 14

 

[0ptimized]

To be honest, I was really really scared to turn off my endocrine system at first because I am a frequent traveller.

I was running 12IU HGH + Reta at that time.

Also the reason I started test is to literally be able to use tren. Idc about bodybuilding or anything, If I could get the igf effects even with no muscle gains etc from tren without test I would do that.

But the harsh reality is you need test base even if you microdose tren.

Also turning hypogandal is very rare and almost impossible if you run your cycle smart.

If I had my plates open I would probably (atleast) do these:

2.5mg letrozole ED (you can use other AIs too but letro mogs)

14+ IU HGH (As much as you can afford as long as possible tbh)

Test

Tren


There are some other stuff you could try but these 4 are probably the easiest to start off with or “bare minimum”


And a whole anchillary stack fot all these

Sucks but I can’t get height anymore because my plates fused at fucking 14

any idea why they fused at 14? don't you think trenbolone and testosterone could contribute to plate closure?

and 2.5mg letrozole sounds crazy high, or i guess it depends on test and tren dose

but yea with good anchillary, lifestyle and PCT i'd probably be fine hormone wise

 

[susisesi]

any idea why they fused at 14? don't you think trenbolone and testosterone could contribute to plate closure?

and 2.5mg letrozole sounds crazy high, or i guess it depends on test and tren dose

but yea with good anchillary, lifestyle and PCT i'd probably be fine hormone wise

Its genetic probably, I got an early puberty (beard growth at 13)

I really don't know but im not that sad about my height considering my dad is 175cm and my mom is 165cm meanwhile I am 187cm

Something deffinetly went differently which I can't pinpoint to but I have bigger than usual feet for my height or family history.

But I was natural at that time it could just be very high natural test with rapid bone aging due to high natural gh

 

[thramer.]

are you fucking stupid? acromegaly? i swear these retards has to learn, so you think when people say HGH wont give you bone growth its gonna give you acromegaly?

fuckass bro i cant deal with this, to even get the slightest bit of acromegaly you would have to exsposed to super high levels of IGF-1 for years on end

i use Aromasin and i know how to not crash my shit got that under control

and what the fuck would cause test suppresion?

even if it wont cause you acromegaly at some point increasing the dose of hgh would just result in diminishing resturns with increased risk of diabetes, heart/organ growth/tumor growth (including pre-existing cancers/water retention) you cant just keep upping the dose and expect a measurable difference in height growth

(0.3mg/kg/day of hgh vs 0.6 mg/kg/day of hgh heart growth: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11932297/ (1mg=3iu)

WATER RETENTION: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11932310/

 

[0ptimized]

even if it wont cause you acromegaly at some point increasing the dose of hgh would just result in diminishing resturns with increased risk of diabetes, heart/organ growth/tumor growth (including pre-existing cancers/water retention) you cant just keep upping the dose and expect a measurable difference in height growth

(0.3mg/kg/day of hgh vs 0.6 mg/kg/day of hgh heart growth: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11932297/ (1mg=3iu)

WATER RETENTION: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11932310/

gfto out of my thread please, i dont have any tumors or risk of cancer, you are aware organ growth can only possible take place in years of HGH abuse? i can measure my glucose levels numb nuts

 

[0ptimized]

Its genetic probably, I got an early puberty (beard growth at 13)

I really don't know but im not that sad about my height considering my dad is 175cm and my mom is 165cm meanwhile I am 187cm

Something deffinetly went differently which I can't pinpoint to but I have bigger than usual feet for my height or family history.

But I was natural at that time it could just be very high natural test with rapid bone aging due to high natural gh

those are some blessed ass genetics bro, being an early bloomer and getting to that height is crazy work

i pretty much got the same parents height, and im only 176 cm at 15.10 fml

 

[susisesi]

those are some blessed ass genetics bro, being an early bloomer and getting to that height is crazy work

i pretty much got the same parents height, and im only 176 cm at 15.10 fml

Yeah it kinda saved my highschool life tbh.

I still feel like being able to hack your body to change your height is rlly cool, bummer I can’t do it but good luck on going against the nature and genetics. Supercool ngl, hope you grow as tall as you want…

with that said I know you didn’t get along well with Zagro but Id advise you to listen to him, more knowladgeable than anyone Ive seen when it comes to heightmaxxing. Maybe just read what he wrote etc

 

[holyhair6767]

calm down on the hgh 8-14ius is good and chill on the ai bro, too low e2 will limit bone growth

 

[pleas let me in]

im looking for something more to add to my stack
im 15 and want something more for muscles and bones that dont directly fuck with my hormones too badly
(yes im scared of taking tesosterone)

current stack:
10-20 IUs HGH ED
12.5 mg Aromasin ED to EOD
5-8 mg Anavar ED to EOD

any suggestions on what i could add? i was thinking of a Ostarine and LGD cycle and just pray enclo brings my levels back

thoughts?

TREN

 

[0ptimized]

calm down on the hgh 8-14ius is good and chill on the ai bro, too low e2 will limit bone growth

8-14 ius in many cases wont be sufficent enough depending on height and weight, Aromasin is far less potent then either armidex and letrozole 12.5mg eod probably isnt even enough to get me down to 12-17 qg in e2 levels

educate yourself and stop listening to the 8 IU cope

 

[holyhair6767]

8-14 ius in many cases wont be sufficent enough depending on height and weight, Aromasin is far less potent then either armidex and letrozole 12.5mg eod probably isnt even enough to get me down to 12-17 qg in e2 levels

educate yourself and stop listening to the 8 IU cope

ed is too high thats what i was refering to and 8iu is min, 12-14 is ideal

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Nigga just take some test, supressing your test can also be a problem due to not hsving much dht for dick growth at your age while the anavar or ostarine doesnt do much

 

[0ptimized]

ed is too high thats what i was refering to and 8iu is min, 12-14 is ideal

stfu, it literally isnt, 12-14 ideal? who the fuck said that it all depends on height, weight and risk factor

 

[0ptimized]

Nigga just take some test, supressing your test can also be a problem due to not hsving much dht for dick growth at your age while the anavar or ostarine doesnt do much

no bro, i have my doubts to test at such a young age, but i guess its the only way

 

[Zagro]

8-14 ius in many cases wont be sufficent enough depending on height and weight, Aromasin is far less potent then either armidex and letrozole 12.5mg eod probably isnt even enough to get me down to 12-17 qg in e2 levels

educate yourself and stop listening to the 8 IU cope

You should fucking educate yourself instead this is the reason why i wouldn’t help you and you still keep doing it retard

There’s 3 false takes just in this post if we don’t count the rest, stop being so fucking cocky you’re on rhGh without knowing how it fully works you just have a basic understanding

 

[Zagro]

Nigga just take some test, supressing your test can also be a problem due to not hsving much dht for dick growth at your age while the anavar or ostarine doesnt do much

No let him go hypogonadal he cracked the code he’s insanely high iq

Just stack 3 sarms 1 oral roid and enclo to rape test levels and igf theory

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

No let him go hypogonadal he cracked the code he’s insanely high iq

Just stack 3 sarms 1 oral roid and enclo to rape test levels and igf theory

Cant belive people still do that shit, test being the base of all cycles is literally the first thing i learned regarding steroid and its maybe the most simple and basal one

 

[combatingNorwooding]

5-8 mg Anavar ED to EOD

 

[0ptimized]

No let him go hypogonadal he cracked the code he’s insanely high iq

Just stack 3 sarms 1 oral roid and enclo to rape test levels and igf theory

stfu i never claimed high IQ, i simply asked if its possible to use anything without a test base, which i see clearly not, the sarms and enclo was hypotheticall

 

[münster]

im looking for something more to add to my stack
im 15 and want something more for muscles and bones that dont directly fuck with my hormones too badly
(yes im scared of taking tesosterone)

current stack:
10-20 IUs HGH ED
12.5 mg Aromasin ED to EOD
5-8 mg Anavar ED to EOD

any suggestions on what i could add? i was thinking of a Ostarine and LGD cycle and just pray enclo brings my levels back

thoughts?

you cant take anavar without test???????????? how old are you