What causes my nasolabial folds?

[dazza]

Is my maxilla that recessed? or is it my chubby ass philtrum/ upper lip

 

[heyheyheybro22]

look at the hollowing you have underneath your eyes, you have them because the fat pad there went down.

How do u bring it up

 

[heyheyheybro22]

composite face lift which is basically a fat transfer on top of a facelift and no doctor will probably do it for you when you're young.

most realistic way to fix it is to inject fat dissolvers into the pad that causes it that's how I fixed mine.

it happens to everyone eventually it's just how gravity affects the face, most people get it around their twenties.

If i hang upside down for 20 hours a day will they become better or if i sleep like a bat

 

[dazza]

Probably mega cooked. I can see the underlying problem with your side profile. Your neck is mega fucked. Look how much you are bending your neck back to look straight. Your ears also verify this to some degree. Ears don't have to be perfectly set vertical, but never should they be at a 45 degree angle like yours. Your jaws are long and appear fine to a normal person, but to me and probably any based orthognathic surgeon, they are downwardly grown. If you make your neck straight to where it should be by aligning your ears more upright by tilting your head down and back you will see you are mega recessed and can't breathe. You weren't lucky enough to have your bones fall down in harmony like many models have been, there were some fuck ups as shown with the lack of undereye support and nasolabial folds, weird projection of chin to jaw ratio, and that weird connection point from your philtrum to nose, these are almost always caused by fucked up jaws.

You're lucky enough to be attractive overall but these flaws you see will never be fixed unless you straighten out your neck, bimax, and fix undereye support.
Honestly not worth it your potential attractiveness isn't much higher than what it already is, fixing these details is a waste of money and you're likely to run into retarded surgeons

I’m lying down in the side profile photo, I genuinely think I have the most fucked up ears on the planet but when my neck is fully straight that’s genuinely how I look. I’m not sure if u fully understand you. Lemme take more pics standing up

 

[dazza]

Probably mega cooked. I can see the underlying problem with your side profile. Your neck is mega fucked. Look how much you are bending your neck back to look straight. Your ears also verify this to some degree. Ears don't have to be perfectly set vertical, but never should they be at a 45 degree angle like yours. Your jaws are long and appear fine to a normal person, but to me and probably any based orthognathic surgeon, they are downwardly grown. If you make your neck straight to where it should be by aligning your ears more upright by tilting your head down and back you will see you are mega recessed and can't breathe. You weren't lucky enough to have your bones fall down in harmony like many models have been, there were some fuck ups as shown with the lack of undereye support and nasolabial folds, weird projection of chin to jaw ratio, and that weird connection point from your philtrum to nose, these are almost always caused by fucked up jaws.

You're lucky enough to be attractive overall but these flaws you see will never be fixed unless you straighten out your neck, bimax, and fix undereye support.
Honestly not worth it your potential attractiveness isn't much higher than what it already is, fixing these details is a waste of money and you're likely to run into retarded surgeons

I see what you mean about the ears but I just think that’s ya how they are no? This is my normal posture idk what u mean ab bending my neck

 

[Orc]

If i hang upside down for 20 hours a day will they become better or if i sleep like a bat

pressure builds up in your skull and kills you eventually, humans aren't supposed to be hanging upside down so their organs start failing when they do.

same thing happens to whales out of the water, or horses when they lay down.

 

[dazza]

Probably mega cooked. I can see the underlying problem with your side profile. Your neck is mega fucked. Look how much you are bending your neck back to look straight. Your ears also verify this to some degree. Ears don't have to be perfectly set vertical, but never should they be at a 45 degree angle like yours. Your jaws are long and appear fine to a normal person, but to me and probably any based orthognathic surgeon, they are downwardly grown. If you make your neck straight to where it should be by aligning your ears more upright by tilting your head down and back you will see you are mega recessed and can't breathe. You weren't lucky enough to have your bones fall down in harmony like many models have been, there were some fuck ups as shown with the lack of undereye support and nasolabial folds, weird projection of chin to jaw ratio, and that weird connection point from your philtrum to nose, these are almost always caused by fucked up jaws.

You're lucky enough to be attractive overall but these flaws you see will never be fixed unless you straighten out your neck, bimax, and fix undereye support.
Honestly not worth it your potential attractiveness isn't much higher than what it already is, fixing these details is a waste of money and you're likely to run into retarded surgeons

Okay I’ve been researching so basically I bend back my neck to compensate for an underdeveloped jaw. And now that is my normal posture? But what is the downside? I have a tilted back ear? Is that really the only downside

 

[b0ygamer]

View attachment 3249718I see what you mean about the ears but I just think that’s ya how they are no? This is my normal posture idk what u mean ab bending my neck

It's pretty straight, not as bad as what it looked like from the picture I saw but it still isn't perfect. You do have naturally tilted ears which made it looks worse than what it actually is. Your head is still forward and your head is slightly tilted back but its minimal. From this I actually can't say with certainty your neck is the main indicator on why you have these flaws I think it's more complicated to the point where literally nobody knows. Whatever the cause is there are deficiencies in your maxilla/mandible. Maybe send me a picture with a perfectly straight neck? It would be easier to visualize and I wouldn't be going off assumptions.

These are straighter necks and they are positively correlated with stronger bone structure. If you send me a picture try to match theirs.

 

[dazza]

It's pretty straight, not as bad as what it looked like from the picture I saw but it still isn't perfect. You do have naturally tilted ears which made it looks worse than what it actually is. Your head is still forward and your head is slightly tilted back but its minimal. From this I actually can't say with certainty your neck is the main indicator on why you have these flaws I think it's more complicated to the point where literally nobody knows. Whatever the cause is there are deficiencies in your maxilla/mandible. Maybe send me a picture with a perfectly straight neck? It would be easier to visualize and I wouldn't be going off assumptions.
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These are straighter necks and they are positively correlated with stronger bone structure. If you send me a picture try to match theirs.

Okay I dm you

 

[b0ygamer]

Okay I’ve been researching so basically I bend back my neck to compensate for an underdeveloped jaw. And now that is my normal posture? But what is the downside? I have a tilted back ear? Is that really the only downside

You don't compensate your underdeveloped jaw by bending your neck back. It won't magically put your jaw in the correct position. There isn't really a downside to maintaining your current posture, as you can't undo changes that already happened. Putting your neck back in it's perfect position would be impossible to maintain because you wouldn't be able to breathe and you'd look subhuman, it's only to illustrate the downwards growth.

 

[louisboyard160793]

mainly because of your long philtrum of peace ( given the fact you are 17 , so its not aging), only good solution would be midface lift
but too young for this boyo
so go enjoy life

 

[dazza]

You don't compensate your underdeveloped jaw by bending your neck back. It won't magically put your jaw in the correct position. There isn't really a downside to maintaining your current posture, as you can't undo changes that already happened. Putting your neck back in its perfect position would be impossible to maintain because you wouldn't be able to breathe and you'd look subhuman, it's only to illustrate the downwards growth.

Okay I understand what you mean now thank you. So I’m basically just gonna look a bit goofy jaw/ ear wise but it’s not gonna insanely noticable to an untrained eye? Well I know if somebody looks at my ears it should be but I’ve never got a comment on them for some reason

 

[dazza]

mainly because of your long philtrum of peace ( given the fact you are 17 , so its not aging), only good solution would be midface lift
but too young for this boyo
so go enjoy life

Aight thank you bro