What causes social anxiety? (Nature vs. nurture)

[AlexAP]

Some people say it's genetical. But I don't think it's the only reason, because then there wouldn't be so much more people with anxiety today than just a few decades ago.

First, let's define social anxiety: It's self-shame. Fear of being judged. Why do so many people have it today? Possible reasons:

- Humans are becoming more intelligent, which leads them to overthink everything, which leads to fear of judgement from others.
- Parents aren't teaching their kids how to be mentally strong anymore.
- Life is easier today, so humans don't have to go through many hardships and have more free time, meaning they don't have to be emotionally strong to barely survive.

What's your opinion? And is it nature or nurture?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

As always, both.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

%90 genetics. It is all about your amygdala size and there is no cure for anxiety except being a very agressive person which is impossible in modern society you know

 

[AlexAP]

As always, both.

Why do you think there are so many more high inhib people today than a few decades ago? Is it more because of nurture, or are humans naturally high inhib and the modern world lets it be more visible?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Why do you think there are so many more high inhib people today than a few decades ago? Is it more because of nurture, or are humans naturally high inhib and the modern world lets it be more visible?

As I've discussed with you before, increased parental age results in more genetic abnormalities, so that's a major genetic component. Environmentally, people aren't forced into social situations as much with technological advancement.

 

[Deleted member 2403]

being seen with your mother

 

[Deleted member 9240]

Parenting

 

[ChristianChad]

Definitely environment

I was fine until I was bullied harshly for 2 years and then isolated in the following years due to depression
If that didn't happen I would be a completely different person right now

 

[ropemax]

%90 genetics. It is all about your amygdala size and there is no cure for anxiety except being a very agressive person which is impossible in modern society you know

Meditation shrinks your amygdala

What Does Mindfulness Meditation Do to Your Brain?

As you read this, wiggle your toes. Feel the way they push against your shoes, and the weight of your feet on the floor. Really think about what your feet feel like right now - their heaviness.

blogs.scientificamerican.com

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Meditation shrinks your amygdala

What Does Mindfulness Meditation Do to Your Brain?

As you read this, wiggle your toes. Feel the way they push against your shoes, and the weight of your feet on the floor. Really think about what your feet feel like right now - their heaviness.

blogs.scientificamerican.com

>Meditation
I am not hindu dindu

 

[ChristianChad]

>Meditation
I am not hindu dindu

The negro can't meditate it is a known fact

 

[Deleted member 15338]

%90 genetics. It is all about your amygdala size and there is no cure for anxiety except being a very agressive person which is impossible in modern society you know

@AlexAP no thoughts ?

 

[tulasdanslos]

Meditation shrinks your amygdala

What Does Mindfulness Meditation Do to Your Brain?

As you read this, wiggle your toes. Feel the way they push against your shoes, and the weight of your feet on the floor. Really think about what your feet feel like right now - their heaviness.

blogs.scientificamerican.com

Have fun with that 25% chance to experience derealisation and depersonalisation.

 

[AlexAP]

%90 genetics. It is all about your amygdala size and there is no cure for anxiety except being a very agressive person which is impossible in modern society you know

@AlexAP no thoughts ?

I don't think this theory is proven, and CBT is a cure in most cases isn't it?

 

[Deleted member 15338]

The negro can't meditate it is a known fact

I am not @Frank Jack

 

[ropemax]

Have fun with that 25% chance to experience derealisation and depersonalisation.

What the fuck are you talking about

 

[Deleted member 15338]

I don't think this theory is proven, and CBT is a cure in most cases isn't it?

This is all cope. Psychology is a meme tier science they are all retards, I mean ALL only legit cure for social anxiety is social agression in general

 

[tulasdanslos]

What the fuck are you talking about

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/can-mindfulness-and-meditation-be-harmful/

 

[AlexAP]

As I've discussed with you before, increased parental age results in more genetic abnormalities, so that's a major genetic component. Environmentally, people aren't forced into social situations as much with technological advancement.

Well, I agree about the genetical abnormalities that could cause other problems, but I'm not fully sold on that explaining the higher prevalence of social anxiety, because I think it could be that social anxiety is purely caused by environment.

 

[ChristianChad]

I am not @Frank Jack

Very similar names and Avi

 

[ChristianChad]

I don't think this theory is proven, and CBT is a cure in most cases isn't it?

Cock and ball torture wouldn't improve anxiety.

 

[ChristianChad]

Have fun with that 25% chance to experience derealisation and depersonalisation.

I'm interested to hear about this. Can you elab? I'm sure you've greatly oversimplified something

 

[n0rthface]

it’s both.

 

[ropemax]

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/can-mindfulness-and-meditation-be-harmful/

• The overall prevalence of meditation adverse events (8.3%) is similar to those reported for psychotherapy practice in general.

If you're in these 8% then you're just retarded fr. Dn read the whole thing but i assume these anxiety spikes were temporary and stopped when further practice was ceased

 

[Deleted member 15338]

I don't think this theory is proven, and CBT is a cure in most cases isn't it?

Very definition of social anxiety is fight-or-flight response, name speaks itself. Primal instinct for preparing body for action

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Well, I agree about the genetical abnormalities that could cause other problems, but I'm not fully sold on that explaining the higher prevalence of social anxiety, because I think it could be that social anxiety is purely caused by environment.

Do plants experience social anxiety?

 

[Frank Jack]

I am not @Frank Jack

I live in your head rent free. Keep thinking about my BBC

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Btw being intelligent doesnt cause overthinking jfl amygdala is all about emotions no effect on intellect

 

[Cuervo]

idk man but social anxiety is painful af

 

[Deleted member 15338]

I live in your head rent free. Keep thinking about my BBC

Very similar names and Avi

 

[quakociaptockh]

What causes socian anxiety? In my case, it was abuse.

I was literally bullied in school, including physical beating.

What to do? Understand the power dynamics of the human species. Understand what people consider "weak" and what causes them to attack. (Normies feel that on intuitive level btw, only autists need to learn that logically. Normies will never consciously admit it however, so no point interrogating them. They literally have a bicameral mind, emotions and logic being separate, and emotions ruling over logic.)

Looksmaxing is a great tool in defensive mimicry btw. It helps you conceal signs of weakness, and that will often stop humans from carrying out an attack. Some defects like short stature cannot be hidden though.

While I believe humanity could live in harmony (unironically following teachings of Christ), currently we are very far from that goal, and the current culture glorifies violence, at the same time denying it even exists. That's the core of bluepill double think: to disorient the victims from pushing back against the aggressors.

The best cure for social anxiety is anger. Don't be afraid of your bully, punch back. Most of the time they don't even expect any resistance.

 

[AlexAP]

Do plants experience social anxiety?

Well social anxiety is just a form of fear, not really a "new" feeling, I don't think it must be caused by genetic mutations among older parents. Some mental illnesses like schizophrenia are genetic, but social anxiety? I'm not sure.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Very definition of social anxiety is fight-or-flight response, name speaks itself. Primal instinct for preparing body for action
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You are so mean Alex ignoring me like that

 

[AlexAP]

Very definition of social anxiety is fight-or-flight response, name speaks itself. Primal instinct for preparing body for action
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I agree it's a fight or flight response. But why are so many humans afraid of social situations today? What changed? Imo, it's because of upbringing.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

I agree it's a fight or flight response. But why are so many humans afraid of social situations today? What changed? Imo, it's because of upbringing.

Cold climate caused the evolution of big amygdalas since it is more dangerous you know. There is no cure for social anxiety other than being a raging asshole tbh

 

[AlexAP]

Cold climate caused the evolution of big amygdalas since it is more dangerous you know. There is no cure for social anxiety other than being a raging asshole tbh

CBT therapy. Could mean coldapproachmaxxing, get rejected by 500 girls and the 501th doesn't matter anymore.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

CBT therapy. Could mean coldapproachmaxxing, get rejected by 500 girls and the 501th doesn't matter anymore.

This is clownmaxxing
Read this study very blackpilled

"Social Anxiety and Aggression Social anxiety often leads people to be shy and withdrawn in social situations. But some people who suffer from social anxiety respond to social rejection with aggression and hostility."

How Anxiety Can Lead to Aggression and Violence

www.calmclinic.com

 

[Deleted member 8461]

there's no consensus on the heritability of anxiety disorders

this study puts at 26%

Psychiatry Online

ajp.psychiatryonline.org

this one says it can be anywhere from 30-67%

Genetic factors in anxiety disorders - PubMed

Presently available clinical genetic studies point to a considerable heritability of anxiety disorders (30-67%), with multiple vulnerability genes such as 5-HT1A, 5-HTT, MAO-A, COMT, CCK-B, ADORA2A, CRHR1, FKBP5, ACE, RGS2/7 and NPSR1 suggested by molecular genetic association studies. These...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

there's also confounding variables based on genes that don't necessarily cause a person to be genetically predisposed to anxiety in a neurological sense but could result in an anxious life because of constant social rejection (like being ugly)

 

[Baldingman1998]

This is clownmaxxing
Read this study very blackpilled

"Social Anxiety and Aggression Social anxiety often leads people to be shy and withdrawn in social situations. But some people who suffer from social anxiety respond to social rejection with aggression and hostility."

How Anxiety Can Lead to Aggression and Violence

www.calmclinic.com

Could be true

 

[Deleted member 15917]

My social anxiety started at age 13 and peaked during high school until now. I tried all kinds of therapy but it just doesn't work for me.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Well social anxiety is just a form of fear, not really a "new" feeling, I don't think it must be caused by genetic mutations among older parents. Some mental illnesses like schizophrenia are genetic, but social anxiety? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure if they do either, but I certainly wouldn't be arguing that plants experience social anxiety.

 

[Deleted member 15917]

My social anxiety started at age 13 and peaked during high school until now. I tried all kinds of therapy but it just doesn't work for me.

and I also believe my social anxiety is heavily influenced by my looks, I guess if I looked better I would not feel this type of anxiety in the presence of others anymore.

 

[Deleted member 15338]

and I also believe my social anxiety is heavily influenced by my looks, I guess if I looked better I would not feel this type of anxiety anymore.

This is impossible jfl it is all about your brain structure

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Humans are becoming more intelligent

 

[Deleted member 5189]

This is impossible jfl it is all about your brain structure

It's not. Ur looks change the way ppl treat you and ur looks also affect ur confidence socially. Why wouldn't that be a factor got social anxiety

 

[Deleted member 15917]

This is impossible jfl it is all about your brain structure

are you saying that even if I was a chad I would still suffer from social anxiety?

 

[Deleted member 15338]

are you saying that even if I was a chad I would still suffer from social anxiety?

Yes

 

[AlexAP]

They are becoming more intelligent, the Flynn Effect is real.

 

[AlexAP]

This is clownmaxxing
Read this study very blackpilled

"Social Anxiety and Aggression Social anxiety often leads people to be shy and withdrawn in social situations. But some people who suffer from social anxiety respond to social rejection with aggression and hostility."

How Anxiety Can Lead to Aggression and Violence

www.calmclinic.com

Does this study argue against CBT therapy though?

 

[Deleted member 15338]

They are becoming more intelligent, the Flynn Effect is real.

No instead everyone is becoming more emotional and domesticated IQ tests are cope btw