What causes this 'melting like' folds appearance, NEED HIGH IQ GTFIH

[nathan_Bs123]

I’m 20, and I’ve noticed that under certain lighting my midface looks extremely exaggerated, with very pronounced folds. I’m aware that I likely have recessed infraorbital areas and a lack of forward projection in my zygomatic region.


Right now, I see a few possible explanations:

1. A lack of forward projection in the upper midface (infraorbital + malar regions), rather than an issue with malar fat
2. Excess or poorly positioned malar fat pads being the main cause
3. A combination of both skeletal structure and soft tissue contributing together

Some additional context: my facial fat distribution isn’t great, even at around 13.5% body fat. I’m planning to cut down to about 10% to see how that affects things. I also plan to get a CBCT scan within the next 2–3 months to better understand my underlying bone structure.


In terms of solutions, I’ve started looking into options like infraorbital or malar implants, but I’m open to hearing other perspectives on what might be going on and what surgical approaches could address it.

 

[6footislaw]

ngas melting

 

[slimester]

thank u for ur opinion lil bro

 

[iamnotgrayipromise]

lack of collagen maybe

 

[nathan_Bs123]

lack of collagen maybe

at 20 I don't think my collagen is the biggest problem

 

[fraudster#1]

I’m 20, and I’ve noticed that under certain lighting my midface looks extremely exaggerated, with very pronounced folds. I’m aware that I likely have recessed infraorbital areas and a lack of forward projection in my zygomatic region.


Right now, I see a few possible explanations:

1. A lack of forward projection in the upper midface (infraorbital + malar regions), rather than an issue with malar fat
2. Excess or poorly positioned malar fat pads being the main cause
3. A combination of both skeletal structure and soft tissue contributing together

Some additional context: my facial fat distribution isn’t great, even at around 13.5% body fat. I’m planning to cut down to about 10% to see how that affects things. I also plan to get a CBCT scan within the next 2–3 months to better understand my underlying bone structure.


In terms of solutions, I’ve started looking into options like infraorbital or malar implants, but I’m open to hearing other perspectives on what might be going on and what surgical approaches could address it.

bro thats a harsh situation for a 20yo guy ngl
i beens seeing ppl on tiktok solving this with any type of collagen stimulation, like dermastamp atc
but as you said its mostly a lack of bone support

 

[TheTD7]

its shit collagen

 

[the foid stalker]

In terms of solutions, I’ve started looking into options like infraorbital or malar implants

Lefort 2

 

[iamnotgrayipromise]

at 20 I don't think my collagen is the biggest problem

doesnt matter if you are 20 your skin is fucked

 

[JporkFoid]

I’m 20, and I’ve noticed that under certain lighting my midface looks extremely exaggerated, with very pronounced folds. I’m aware that I likely have recessed infraorbital areas and a lack of forward projection in my zygomatic region.


Right now, I see a few possible explanations:

1. A lack of forward projection in the upper midface (infraorbital + malar regions), rather than an issue with malar fat
2. Excess or poorly positioned malar fat pads being the main cause
3. A combination of both skeletal structure and soft tissue contributing together

Some additional context: my facial fat distribution isn’t great, even at around 13.5% body fat. I’m planning to cut down to about 10% to see how that affects things. I also plan to get a CBCT scan within the next 2–3 months to better understand my underlying bone structure.


In terms of solutions, I’ve started looking into options like infraorbital or malar implants, but I’m open to hearing other perspectives on what might be going on and what surgical approaches could address it.

recessed maxilaaaaaaaa

 

[Wiqfi]

I’m 20, and I’ve noticed that under certain lighting my midface looks extremely exaggerated, with very pronounced folds. I’m aware that I likely have recessed infraorbital areas and a lack of forward projection in my zygomatic region.


Right now, I see a few possible explanations:

1. A lack of forward projection in the upper midface (infraorbital + malar regions), rather than an issue with malar fat
2. Excess or poorly positioned malar fat pads being the main cause
3. A combination of both skeletal structure and soft tissue contributing together

Some additional context: my facial fat distribution isn’t great, even at around 13.5% body fat. I’m planning to cut down to about 10% to see how that affects things. I also plan to get a CBCT scan within the next 2–3 months to better understand my underlying bone structure.


In terms of solutions, I’ve started looking into options like infraorbital or malar implants, but I’m open to hearing other perspectives on what might be going on and what surgical approaches could address it.

soft tissue tearthroughs

 

[nathan_Bs123]

bro thats a harsh situation for a 20yo guy ngl
i beens seeing ppl on tiktok solving this with any type of collagen stimulation, like dermastamp atc
but as you said its mostly a lack of bone support

hella harsh yeah, on accutane for another few months and when I switch to tret I plan to tret +microneedle combo

 

[nathan_Bs123]

recessed maxilaaaaaaaa

I rejected that given the convexities of my side profile

 

[nathan_Bs123]

doesnt matter if you are 20 your skin is fucked

brutal but I don't see how troughs could be made in upper region if not for recession in my infraorbital fat pad and lack of projection

 

[the foid stalker]

hella harsh yeah, on accutane for another few months and when I switch to tret I plan to tret +microneedle combo

People with bones like yours would do better to stay away from overhead fluorescent lighting as it exaggerates nasolabial folds hella. You would look less gaunt if you were at a higher body fat % most likely.

 

[nathan_Bs123]

People with bones like yours would do better to stay away from overhead fluorescent lighting as it exaggerates nasolabial folds hella. You would look less gaunt if you were at a higher body fat % most likely.

incredibly high iq, that is exactly what I've noticed both with the overhead lighting and with being at higher bf%. When you say bones like mine can I know what you're referring to as these are exactly what I wish to augment

 

[the foid stalker]

incredibly high iq, that is exactly what I've noticed both with the overhead lighting and with being at higher bf%. When you say bones like mine can I know what you're referring to as these are exactly what I wish to augment

Narrow maxilla or deficient canine fossa, recessed infras. To know for sure get a simple lat ceph X-ray and a PA ceph

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Narrow maxilla or deficient canine fossa, recessed infras. To know for sure get a simple lat ceph X-ray and a PA ceph

I'll be sure to look more into this. When I hear narrow maxilla i'm thinking marpe canidate

 

[the foid stalker]

I'll be sure to look more into this. When I hear narrow maxilla i'm thinking marpe canidate

When you smile, do you show a lot of upper teeth side to side, or is your smile relatively narrow?

 

[nathan_Bs123]

mile, do you show a lot of upper teeth side to side, or is your s

the best I can describe is it's showing most of my upper teeth but could definitely be more

 

[nathan_Bs123]

When you smile, do you show a lot of upper teeth side to side, or is your smile relatively narrow?

I’m really glad you brought this up because I’m in talks with an oral surgeon

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Bimax and orbital implants/fat grafts

 

[lurking truecel]

Bimax and orbital implants/fat grafts

Lol bimax often causes midface descent, same with implants. This is not a bone issue but soft tissue issue. His ligamnets are dropping

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Lol bimax often causes midface descent, same with implants. This is not a bone issue but soft tissue issue. His ligamnets are dropping

Could be true i genuinely cant tell from these ass pics

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Lol bimax often causes midface descent, same with implants. This is not a bone issue but soft tissue issue. His ligamnets are dropping

Could be true i genuinely cant tell from these ass pics

What photos would help clarify

 

[lurking truecel]

Could be true i genuinely cant tell from these ass pics

Nasolabial folds is never solved by bones, also its genetic diffrent from bones

 

[ropemaxxer00]

What photos would help clarify

Better lighting from the side profile pic

 

[lurking truecel]

What photos would help clarify

I mean its nothing you need to clarify, ypu have natural low set midface fascia. Many people have it. Those folds are not huge right now, but they will become bigger with age. You need face lift to solve it. Nothing else helps

 

[lurking truecel]

Better lighting from the side profile pic

His bones are fine, this is just genetic

 

[Acquiescence]

I mean its nothing you need to clarify, ypu have natural low set midface fascia. Many people have it. Those folds are not huge right now, but they will become bigger with age. You need face lift to solve it. Nothing else helps

Brutal early life facelift pill

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Nasolabial folds is never solved by bones, also its genetic diffrent from bones

Wouldn’t a

Better lighting from the side profile pic

I’ll send a better one when I can ty

 

[lurking truecel]

Brutal early life facelift pill

I mean to be fair even a face lift might not solve those type of folds. He would need a really skilled surgeon to lift it both from the eyelid and the midface. And if its done wrong it looks ass. This is just a brutal genetic pill many people dont talk about yet

 

[nathan_Bs123]

His bones are fine, this is just genetic

I’m inclined to disagree since I have no forward projection in my upper midface.

 

[lurking truecel]

I’m inclined to disagree since I have no forward projection in my upper midface.

I Mean your bones are fine, and putting a implant or doing anything to the bones wont help since you then need to relsea the ligaments from the bones so what you gain you lose. There are people with good bones who get this shit aswell, i mean it is a ligament tightness problem. Having good bones helpa it but for you now its a soft tissue problem only solved that way

 

[Acquiescence]

I mean to be fair even a face lift might not solve those type of folds. He would need a really skilled surgeon to lift it both from the eyelid and the midface. And if its done wrong it looks ass. This is just a brutal genetic pill many people dont talk about yet

Lmao this is just so tough man

Imagine:

Chad drinks and smokes and stays up late partying and yet still retains that youthful mogger look well into his 30s just due to genetics

When asked probably has some cringemaxxed platitude line like “Maaaan, you just gotta stay positive and relaxed man”

Meanwhile inkie obsesses over lifestyle optimization yet looks like dog by 25, probably getting gaslit for it that it’s his fault, then blows the house downpayment on a face lift attempt only to get botched

Just brutal

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I Mean your bones are fine, and putting an implant or doing anything to the bones wont help since you then need to relsea the ligaments from the bones so what you gain you lose. There are people with good bones who get this shit aswell, i mean it is a ligament tightness problem. Having good bones helpa it but for you now its a soft tissue problem only solved that way

Whenever I see people who have this typically solve this by getting to low bf%. So I’m inclined to believe that it’s not as much of a support problem as a buldging malar fat pad problem

 

[nathan_Bs123]

Lmao this is just so tough man

Imagine:

Chad drinks and smokes and stays up late partying and yet still retains that youthful mogger look well into his 30s just due to genetics

Meanwhile inkie obsesses over lifestyle optimization yet looks like dog by 25, probably getting gaslit for it that it’s his fault, then blows the house downpayment on a face lift attempt only to get botched

Just brutal

Holy sadness lmfao

 

[lurking truecel]

Whenever I see people who have this typically solve this by getting to low bf%. So I’m inclined to believe that it’s not as much of a support problem as a buldging malar fat pad problem

I mean yea being lower bodyfat would help slighltly but having nasujugal grooves and nasolabial folds like that at 20 is genetic, your midface is low per deafault. You would not be able to look tight like many models etc. I mean msot people do, over 50% of guys. I mean since your skin elasticity is good since young you can try to drag some skin up by doing fillers zygoma

 

[nathan_Bs123]

I mean yea being lower bodyfat would help slighltly but having nasujugal grooves and nasolabial folds like that at 20 is genetic, your midface is low per deafault. You would not be able to look tight like many models etc. I mean msot people do, over 50% of guys. I mean since your skin elasticity is good since young you can try to drag some skin up by doing fillers zygoma

I’ll be skipping filler but I do plan to augment my malar region. Something feels off about the face lift fix. It seems to target the problem not by solving the root issue of evening out fat distribution from my malar fat pad but by moving it out the way. Both solve the issue but face lift is simply not necessary. Playing around with slightly pressing on my malar fat pad removes the folds, both tear and nasolabial. adding a bit of volume to my zygoma by pinching slightly but not squishing the skin or moving up seems to also alleviate the problem. These are rudimentary tests but it serves to have an alternative explanation to dropping

 

[lurking truecel]

I’ll be skipping filler but I do plan to augment my malar region. Something feels off about the face lift fix. It seems to target the problem not by solving the root issue of evening out fat distribution from my malar fat pad but by moving it out the way. Both solve the issue but face lift is simply not necessary. Playing around with slightly pressing on my malar fat pad removes the folds, both tear and nasolabial. adding a bit of volume to my zygoma by pinching slightly but not squishing the skin or moving up seems to also alleviate the problem. These are rudimentary tests but it serves to have an alternative explanation to dropping

i mean a implant wont solve it, since ligmants and soft tissue cant really reattach to the implant, so it will just slide down slightly. it will not lift it like filler would, filler would lift the skin since it only adds volume under not deattaching the ligament where the skin is attached. you could add fat aswell, might help slighly in the infra region and even to the zygoma

 

[nathan_Bs123]

i mean a implant wont solve it, since ligmants and soft tissue cant really reattach to the implant, so it will just slide down slightly. it will not lift it like filler would, filler would lift the skin since it only adds volume under not deattaching the ligament where the skin is attached. you could add fat aswell, might help slighly in the infra region and even to the zygoma

Really smart with the fat to zygoma area if I remember correctly the graft survival rate is genuinely non existent, but I plan to hopefully to maybe hopefully use the pro angiogenesis stack after my time when I get cantho + fat grafting to my infra area

 

[lurking truecel]

Really smart with the fat to zygoma area if I remember correctly the graft survival rate is genuinely non existent, but I plan to hopefully to maybe hopefully use the pro angiogenesis stack after my time when I get cantho + fat grafting to my infra area

fat doesnt have that bad survival rate there, but surgeon dont want to go hard since it can create uneveness. also the whole point of getting high survival rate with fat is doing drops that can get blood supply fast, if you put in a lump of fat only the outer outmost layer will get supply the rest dies and it creates a lump of dead fat that has a hard time resporbing. so thats why you need to do multiple sessions ideally if you want more fat