What do Satanists / Luciferians Believe in exactly?

[d1lurkaa]

Is their worldview that lucifer offers like absolute free will since there is no punishment to your actions regardless if you do good or bad?

Heard some call God a tyrant for punishing you for your actions.

Does this explain why a lot of Satanists have a weird fixation/love for nature? Since I guess animals in their eyes have "true free will" since they can do absolutely anything without any divine punishment?

Quite interesting icl

If this is so then that would explain how Satanists truly come to 'hate' God and his followers since their worldview puts God as the ultimate villain and lucifer as the hero. Like a liberator.

Lmk yall thoughts and if any Satanist is reading please share your opinions, beliefs and thoughts. I'm deadass really interested no bullshit

 

[asdvek]

Satanists worship themselves not a literal Satan (theistic satanism doesn't exist in this day and age)

Don't know what's so hard to understand about it

 

[alurmo]

Is their worldview that lucifer offers like absolute free will since there is no punishment to your actions regardless if you do good or bad?

Heard some call God a tyrant for punishing you for your actions.

Does this explain why a lot of Satanists have a weird fixation/love for nature? Since I guess animals in their eyes have "true free will" since they can do absolutely anything without any divine punishment?

Quite interesting icl

If this is so then that would explain how Satanists truly come to 'hate' God and his followers since their worldview puts God as the ultimate villain and lucifer as the hero. Like a liberator.

Lmk yall thoughts and if any Satanist is reading please share your opinions, beliefs and thoughts. I'm deadass really interested no bullshit

counterbelief to chrstiandom i think

 

[Hess]

It doesn't rly make sense though, God is not the one punishing you in the christian moral view its them rejecting salvation and willingly going to hell (Lucifier is also not the ruler of hell but someone who is just down there as well and dragging everyone else with him), im not a christian but I never really saw satanism as anything more than petty reaction againist christanity

 

[d1lurkaa]

Satanists worship themselves not a literal Satan (theistic satanism doesn't exist in this day and age)

Don't know what's so hard to understand about it

Well yeah but they praise and worship lucifer as the liberator and hero no?

 

[truewarlord]

Satanists worship themselves not a literal Satan (theistic satanism doesn't exist in this day and age)

Don't know what's so hard to understand about it

im pretty sure that most people just see random celbrettys throwing up satanic sighns on tiktok and think that they genuenlly worship it even tho they are just giving them free exposure

 

[ProximityHH]

Is their worldview that lucifer offers like absolute free will since there is no punishment to your actions regardless if you do good or bad?

Heard some call God a tyrant for punishing you for your actions.

Does this explain why a lot of Satanists have a weird fixation/love for nature? Since I guess animals in their eyes have "true free will" since they can do absolutely anything without any divine punishment?

Quite interesting icl

If this is so then that would explain how Satanists truly come to 'hate' God and his followers since their worldview puts God as the ultimate villain and lucifer as the hero. Like a liberator.

Lmk yall thoughts and if any Satanist is reading please share your opinions, beliefs and thoughts. I'm deadass really interested no bullshit

In argument to Christianity, some believe Jesus is evil.

 

[asdvek]

Well yeah but they praise and worship lucifer as the liberator and hero no?

Those are retards

 

[lemureater]

In argument to Christianity, some believe Jesus is evil.

its not- they just call themselves satanists to annoy christians. They arent theists, they just bond over abuse from the church and act edgy

 

[ProximityHH]

its not- they just call themselves satanists to annoy christians. They arent theists, they just bond over abuse from the church and act edgy

Interesting, I wonder where that stems from. Just the hatred of Christians?

 

[lemureater]

Interesting, I wonder where that stems from. Just the hatred of Christians?

yes it comes from LA during the 1960s actually, its just atheism but anti-christian and they use satan as a symbol for induvidualism and pleasure

 

[uncykongrock]

Satanists worship themselves not a literal Satan (theistic satanism doesn't exist in this day and age)

Don't know what's so hard to understand about it

So they have a worldwide church movement that my friend joined after turning to the dark side of troons...to worship themselves? Nah they do blood rituals and unbaptisms and black mass and weird shit in the woods and all that. Real satanism is alive and well and the sorta-secret force underlying all that is this modern world. Tied of course to the illuminati, who have the real power, but still work for satan.

I mean those who believe themselves to be their own God or whatever are satanic too, but they're not the ones at question.

 

[d1lurkaa]

It doesn't rly make sense though, God is not the one punishing you in the christian moral view its them rejecting salvation and willingly going to hell (Lucifier is also not the ruler of hell but someone who is just down there as well and dragging everyone else with him), im not a christian but I never really saw satanism as anything more than petty reaction againist christanity

I just assumed Satanists thought that divine punishment is no different to tyranny. That being the reason lucifer tried to take God's role and provide actual 'free will' to his worshippers / children.

Maybe lucifer deceived other angels in heaven by twisting it all in this way. I'm not educated on satanism but this is the only way I see how Satanists can justify being a Satanists without trying to be all edgy and hard-core because I think humans naturally want to be on the right side.

I think the high ranking freemasons are true Lucifierians lol

 

[d1lurkaa]

its not- they just call themselves satanists to annoy christians. They arent theists, they just bond over abuse from the church and act edgy

Yes exactly. I dont mean those Satanists I meant the ones who truly believe in a doctrine

 

[Hess]

I just assumed Satanists thought that divine punishment is no different to tyranny. That being the reason lucifer tried to take God's role and provide actual 'free will' to his worshippers / children.

Maybe lucifer deceived other angels in heaven by twisting it all in this way. I'm not educated on satanism but this is the only way I see how Satanists can justify being a Satanists without trying to be all edgy and hard-core because I think humans naturally want to be on the right side.

I think the high ranking freemasons are true Lucifierians lol

From what I have read about it, it just seems mostly based on a very incoherrent view of christianity tbh

 

[d1lurkaa]

Those are retards

And those retards seem to have total dominon over everything lmao.

 

[lemureater]

And those retards seem to have total dominon over everything lmao.

they dont, religion is just the super structure based upon material conditions.

 

[d1lurkaa]

From what I have read about it, it just seems mostly based on a very incoherrent view of christianity tbh

High ranking members of secret societies all tend to do the same degenerate acts as a way to show true devotion to their true god lucifer. Those acts of degeneration goes to show what their worldview might be.

As I said previously they seem really fixated on nature. How the strong kill the weak, natural selection, no mercy and other brutal shit due to the fact that its a system with no divine intervention. Absolute true will with no governance.

This justifies there pure hatred for Christianith because its the polar opposite of their worldview. Jesus says to love your neighbor and to forgive your trespassers.

So the high ranking luciferians hate Christians and the christian God wholeheartedly. Not for some edgy reason or not because they faced a traumatic upbringing as a Christian like how the average teen Satanist online are. Different kind of hate yk?

 

[Hess]

High ranking members of secret societies all tend to do the same degenerate acts as a way to show true devotion to their true god lucifer. Those acts of degeneration goes to show what their worldview might be.

As I said previously they seem really fixated on nature. How the strong kill the weak, natural selection, no mercy and other brutal shit due to the fact that its a system with no divine intervention. Absolute true will with no governance.

This justifies there pure hatred for Christianith because its the polar opposite of their worldview. Jesus says to love your neighbor and to forgive your trespassers.

So the high ranking luciferians hate Christians and the christian God wholeheartedly. Not for some edgy reason or not because they faced a traumatic upbringing as a Christian like how the average teen Satanist online are. Different kind of hate yk?

I can somewhat understand and agree with this kind of worldview but why satanism has to be apart of this just feels like a weird inclusion, nietzsche perfectly explains and shows a worldview like this without relying on religion and with it being much more coherrent and logically sound than the satantic version

 

[d1lurkaa]

they dont, religion is just the super structure based upon material conditions.

No I meant it as in how much control secret societies truly have world wide.

Politics, entertainment, economics and so much more.

It seems almost like everyone is involved or full on a member of these secret societies. I heard that these secret societies function as a fraternity within a fraternity.

So that's why a low ranking freemason doesn't know shit meanwhile a 33rd degree Mason is a true luciferian with access to witch craft and other wicked shit. This is so that they can screen the members and see who is capable of worshiping lucifer. That's why most freemasons dont even know who they actually worship

 

[Hess]

I can somewhat understand and agree with this kind of worldview but why satanism has to be apart of this just feels like a weird inclusion, nietzsche perfectly explains and shows a worldview like this without relying on religion and with it being much more coherrent and logically sound than the satantic version

This sort of nietzschean thought somewhat correlates with the view of the satanists you speak of but is much more coherent imo


"But let us come back to it; the problem of another origin of the good—of the good, as the resentful man has thought it out—demands its solution. It is not surprising that the lambs should bear a grudge against the great birds of prey, but that is no reason for blaming thegreat birds of prey for taking the little lambs. And when the lambssay among themselves, "These birds of prey are evil, and he who is asfar removed from being a bird of prey, who is rather its opposite,a lamb,—is he not good?" then there is nothing to cavil at in thesetting up of this ideal, though it may also be that the birds of preywill regard it a little sneeringly, and perchance say to themselves,"We bear no grudge against them, these good lambs, we even like them:nothing is tastier than a tender lamb." To require of strength that itshould not express itself as strength, that it should not be a wish tooverpower, a wish to overthrow, a wish to become master, a thirst forenemies and antagonisms and triumphs, is just as absurd as to require of weakness that it should express itself as strength."

 

[d1lurkaa]

I can somewhat understand and agree with this kind of worldview but why satanism has to be apart of this just feels like a weird inclusion, nietzsche perfectly explains and shows a worldview like this without relying on religion and with it being much more coherrent and logically sound than the satantic version

Bro I swear nietzsche is a freemason. This sounds so schizo lmao but I swear he is

 

[d1lurkaa]

I can somewhat understand and agree with this kind of worldview but why satanism has to be apart of this just feels like a weird inclusion, nietzsche perfectly explains and shows a worldview like this without relying on religion and with it being much more coherrent and logically sound than the satantic version

Bro I swear nietzsche is a freemason. This sounds so schizo lmao but I swear he is

don't know a lot about him so excuse me if this isnt him.

 

[Hess]

View attachment 4945094 don't know a lot about him so excuse me if this isnt him.

I doubt he was a free mason tbh

 

[d1lurkaa]

In argument to Christianity, some believe Jesus is evil.

Why do they believe Jesus is evil?

 

[d1lurkaa]

So they have a worldwide church movement that my friend joined after turning to the dark side of troons...to worship themselves? Nah they do blood rituals and unbaptisms and black mass and weird shit in the woods and all that. Real satanism is alive and well and the sorta-secret force underlying all that is this modern world. Tied of course to the illuminati, who have the real power, but still work for satan.

I mean those who believe themselves to be their own God or whatever are satanic too, but they're not the ones at question.

Ur tapped in lol

 

[lemureater]

jfl if u think they believe in theism. They only worship capital

 

[charlesmansonex]

they believe in larping

 

[ProximityHH]

Why do they believe Jesus is evil?

The belief of Satan is the belief of God