that's your opinion. How can doing material damage let you recieve a bullet through the head? seems like the government is more fit with thise tiny groups then anyone else, objectivly speaking that is.
Mate this conversation is going nowhere. Only allah knows who is right. See you on the day of judgment.
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The argument is that for every tiny Sunni terror group there is also a Shia one, if not there are states doing this on ''pollitical purposes''. So you pointing to us as more likely to be terrorists is False. That's my argument.
Remember that shia ones don't kill innocent people was just my argument. Also your a turk lol. Turks are mascaraing Armenians right now. The Kurds now the Armenians? Stop this madness and the Shia are suppose to be the evil ones.
I am not saying that. There deffinitly radical Shia's who kill people in the past as right now.
Baseless accusations. Show prove where we killed Kurds or even Armenians.
Based jfl. Most of them are busy fucking goats lol.
Wiki is not a valid source. Remember that history is written by winners. To show that we did a genocide you must present sources from Ottoman state institutions that worked towards this goal.Armenian genocide - Wikipedia
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And also you guys are attacking the Armenians again right now lol. Seriously mate why so much bloodshed? Allah will punish all of the wrong doers.Turkey launches major attack on Kurdish militants in Iraq
Ground and air operation targets 150 suspected PKK positions, Ankara sayswww.theguardian.com
First of all your point about winners righting history is amazing because abu bakr and the sahaba wrote what they wanted and called them self rightful. Also azerbaijan is more turk than shia. They don't follow islam at all. They also hate iran btw. I have nothing against turks but i don't doubt the Armenian genocide. Afterall Iran and turkey have good relations.
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I said it in the case of wikipedia. Dismissing 10000s of hadith is another matter. Why does every source that dismisses hadith come from Iranian background and not Arab.. Quite interesting right?
You doubting on something is not the matter. Where are the sources that back these up?
Same claim can be made against Iran. How are Azeri's not following Islam again?
its not 10000 hadiths jfl also a lot of shia arabs dismiss them.
there is a lot of sources but you won't probably believe, i just showed you the most famous one which is by wikapedia.
They are not religious at all. As I said they are more turk than they are muslim. Also turkey has become secular, most women don't have hijab and a lot of people call them selves atheists. Yeah so much for following sunnah of the prophet but sunnis make fun of shias for not being religious. i have lived in turkey btw(Ankara).
I won't believe because Ottoman state archives are open regarding this matter. Armenians on contrary don't show to the world. They don't show how they massacered 10000s of Muslims during russian occupation.
That't the point they dismiss them on the basis that ''Iranian sources'' back their views. I believe more that Arabs can be objective regarding their own matter then freshly conquered hostile Iran. Note how no one calls their son Khalid, however he was one of the greatest generals we had and through him and hz. Omer did Iran became part of the Islamic world.
Tbh it's probably a 50/50 divide between secularists and Muslims. Same pattern can be seen in the Arab world & Iran. Every country has their own degenerates.
No bro the level of degeneracy is on the same level as the Europeans. Don't even compare with Iran and arab countries. Its so cucked that women are not allowed to wear hijab in school and university. I had this neighbor that used to fuck guys while his husband was away. So please don't lecture shias about following the sunnah of the prophet.
Depends on what part of the country. I can show you ''Arab Degeneracy'' found nowhere in Turkey. In Iran it's against state law so they tend to do it in private.
*in the past.
Well i am not your whore neighbor for Gods sake. If my knowledge is proven I can lecture. Prove something i said that is false.
Obviously degeneracy exists everywhere but not on the same level
thank allah they took away this cucked law because it was triggering the fuck out me
I usually ignore these type of people because they look down upon Islam
I generally don't believe in Sunni hadiths tbh because they could be so easily fabricated. There was also a time omar was burning qurans. Why couldn't he also make up hadiths and pass them on?
Then what hadith do you even believe in? for example how do you abtest? you won't find that in Quran. That is from our prophets tradition.
If it was written incorrect then what's the deal? being skeptical on hadith would eventually lead someone to this view tho. If so during the time of Hz. Osman the Quran was compilled. There where 10000s of hafiz in that meeting. Is this also now something of sketical?
The method of hadith however show that they couldn't. For example if there are 2 people saying the same truth while not seeing each other. The argument would become strong. If it was 10 it would be stronger, etc. To even dismiss one hadith you everything should be read.
What about agnostic?
Same as atheists for me, only semantic difference.
I'm an agnostic but I practice Judaism to preserve tradition
Cope. Ottomans genocided many people not just armenians lol. Many many peoples were slaughtered
Then show evidence. Someone could also make the claim That Ottomans also happened to genocide the moon Nazis during the first Earth/Martian war.
My people were enslaved and some slaughtered. History is written by the winners as you said. But the victims record the facts
why are these so called ''victims'' records not in the open then? All of Ottoman state archives are in the open. Armenians choose to hide theirs. If they showed you would see the massacres they commited against Muslims.
Bla bla bla. Bullshit propaganda. Everyone knows that ottomans genocided armenians along with many other people. Stop bullshitting.
cope
TWELVER SHI"ISM IS CREATED BY ABDULLAH IBN SABAH, AND HE WAS A JEW. KEEP BARKING YOU IRANIAN SHIA SUBHUMAN FAGGOT I HOPE BIDEN NUKES YOU TO ORBIT.
People have a reason to hate Islam in the west and it mostly arises from sunnis. Even I don't feel safe around sunni groups as a shia because they could just decide that my life should be taken because of difference in ideology. Even though all are not this, i generally find hardcore sunnis to be a plague to humanity.
Why?
