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Started losing hair as a 21 year old and hopped on fin, don't think it helped much and the fin shed made my shit look even more receded so I panicked and hopped on dut, that shit worked. Hair loss stopped and then when I introduced microneedling I started seeing regrowth, at the beginning I was taking 0.5 dut daily and I think at the very start I did an "initial front load" taking like 1-2mg a day for the first few weeks (think I read about it on lookism) then cruised on .5 daily for a few months and once I started seeing re growth I started taking 0.5 only a couple times a week out of fear from side effects since I was still 21 at the time and at one point I was taking .5 only every 2 weeks while still seeing improvement then one day I ran out and never ordered more. I was probably on fin and dut for a total of one year. Fast forward 5 years I'm starting to see cracks in my hairline again so I'm ready to hop on hair loss meds again.

By the way I definitely did experience ED from the pills but part of me really thinks it was fin more than dut despite everybody knowing that dut is way stronger, fin is just fucking garbage. I fixed it with Cialis and bathmate and turned into a dick mogger. It's also worth noting that I always had a naturally long dick (not remarkably thick before bathmate tho, so it did take more blood for me to get a hard rock quality erection so that might've contributed to my ed seeming worse to me). I also was a chronic gooner and porn watcher since 11 years old so I strongly believe I already had some porn induced ED to begin with, so now knowing what I know I believe I would've always benefited greatly from cialis/bathmatemaxxing even if I never took fin. Although I do remember my sexual encounters in my late teens being positive due to good erections and being perceived as having a decent cock (not the mogger cock I got after starting PE post fin/dut tho).

Anyways my real question is should I just take dut again seeing that I'm 26 now (soon 27) so nuking DHT shouldn't matter that much especially considering I already did it at 21/22? I just fear the so called cognitive side effects that can come from nuking DHT even tho I honestly don't remember much of that back when I took dut 5 years ago, what I remember vividly was the high anxiety that came from being a young baldcel surrounded by prime Stacies that didn't go away until dut fully kicked it and I was able to start running cover up game and eventually stabilized my hairline.
Or should I give RU58841 a chance? I strongly considered it back then seeing I was early 20s and everybody kept saying DHT was still necessary at that time in development but I decided not to go with it because of some high IQ posts/threads on lookism pleading a case on how it was a very experimental compound and nobody had any idea of the long term implications of it whereas there were several cases of people running dut for decades and having mogger hair and only having to deal with reduced erection quality (which happens with age anyway) easily dealt with cialis (another safe to run long term drug). Also the dreaded heart palpitations a lot of users reported that scared the shit out of them and made them stop RU cold turkey and just switch to dut and deal with nuked DHT sides.

Have there been any developments on the long term of RU use in the last couple years? or is dut + cialis/bathmate still king?
 
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No idea but I would take dut way before ru just because we know what it does to your body more, also how long were you on fin before starting dut? Im on fin since february and no improvement in my miniaturized temple hairs. They look worse if anything
 
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Started losing hair as a 21 year old and hopped on fin, don't think it helped much and the fin shed made my shit look even more receded so I panicked and hopped on dut, that shit worked. Hair loss stopped and then when I introduced microneedling I started seeing regrowth, at the beginning I was taking 0.5 dut daily and I think at the very start I did an "initial front load" taking like 1-2mg a day for the first few weeks (think I read about it on lookism) then cruised on .5 daily for a few months and once I started seeing re growth I started taking 0.5 only a couple times a week out of fear from side effects since I was still 21 at the time and at one point I was taking .5 only every 2 weeks while still seeing improvement then one day I ran out and never ordered more. I was probably on fin and dut for a total of one year. Fast forward 5 years I'm starting to see cracks in my hairline again so I'm ready to hop on hair loss meds again.

By the way I definitely did experience ED from the pills but part of me really thinks it was fin more than dut despite everybody knowing that dut is way stronger, fin is just fucking garbage. I fixed it with Cialis and bathmate and turned into a dick mogger. It's also worth noting that I always had a naturally long dick (not remarkably thick before bathmate tho, so it did take more blood for me to get a hard rock quality erection so that might've contributed to my ed seeming worse to me). I also was a chronic gooner and porn watcher since 11 years old so I strongly believe I already had some porn induced ED to begin with, so now knowing what I know I believe I would've always benefited greatly from cialis/bathmatemaxxing even if I never took fin. Although I do remember my sexual encounters in my late teens being positive due to good erections and being perceived as having a decent cock (not the mogger cock I got after starting PE post fin/dut tho).

Anyways my real question is should I just take dut again seeing that I'm 26 now (soon 27) so nuking DHT shouldn't matter that much especially considering I already did it at 21/22? I just fear the so called cognitive side effects that can come from nuking DHT even tho I honestly don't remember much of that back when I took dut 5 years ago, what I remember vividly was the high anxiety that came from being a young baldcel surrounded by prime Stacies that didn't go away until dut fully kicked it and I was able to start running cover up game and eventually stabilized my hairline.
Or should I give RU58841 a chance? I strongly considered it back then seeing I was early 20s and everybody kept saying DHT was still necessary at that time in development but I decided not to go with it because of some high IQ posts/threads on lookism pleading a case on how it was a very experimental compound and nobody had any idea of the long term implications of it whereas there were several cases of people running dut for decades and having mogger hair and only having to deal with reduced erection quality (which happens with age anyway) easily dealt with cialis (another safe to run long term drug). Also the dreaded heart palpitations a lot of users reported that scared the shit out of them and made them stop RU cold turkey and just switch to dut and deal with nuked DHT sides.

Have there been any developments on the long term of RU use in the last couple years? or is dut + cialis/bathmate still king?
Depends what risk profile you’re comfortable taking.

You could increase Dutasteride to 2.5mg which will increase scalp DHT suppression to 79%, up from roughly 50% on 0.5mg

You could use RU, which is a topical anti androgen - it will work really well with a 5ar inhibitor.

You could also add minoxidil to really stimulate growth.

Or do all three for synergistic benefits.
 
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No idea but I would take dut way before ru just because we know what it does to your body more, also how long were you on fin before starting dut? Im on fin since february and no improvement in my miniaturized temple hairs. They look worse if anything
couple months if any. hop off that garbage and get on dut that shit actually works and I strongly believe fin is the shit that actually kucks u despite not being as strong as dut. A fellow young stacy at the time got my number off the managers office while I was on fin, we fooled around for a little bit but no sexual contact then one day she dragged me to her apartment complex and we made out for a while and eventually she started grabbing my cock and realized I wasn't really hard. went ghost afterwards, before that she was obsessed with me. If I would've been on dut and cialis I would've fucked the shit out of her in the pool chairs, I wanted to rope. About 6 months before that (hopping on fin) I exposed a raging boner to a girl in the movie theater and proceeded to get topped off in my car. fin no bueno bro, how old are you?

also you need to be derma needling to expedite the process and actually get regrowth.
 
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thanks I guess. larpers these days gpt generate shitposts for the sake of trolling? shitposting used to b a skill at least
 
Started losing hair as a 21 year old and hopped on fin, don't think it helped much and the fin shed made my shit look even more receded so I panicked and hopped on dut, that shit worked. Hair loss stopped and then when I introduced microneedling I started seeing regrowth, at the beginning I was taking 0.5 dut daily and I think at the very start I did an "initial front load" taking like 1-2mg a day for the first few weeks (think I read about it on lookism) then cruised on .5 daily for a few months and once I started seeing re growth I started taking 0.5 only a couple times a week out of fear from side effects since I was still 21 at the time and at one point I was taking .5 only every 2 weeks while still seeing improvement then one day I ran out and never ordered more. I was probably on fin and dut for a total of one year. Fast forward 5 years I'm starting to see cracks in my hairline again so I'm ready to hop on hair loss meds again.

By the way I definitely did experience ED from the pills but part of me really thinks it was fin more than dut despite everybody knowing that dut is way stronger, fin is just fucking garbage. I fixed it with Cialis and bathmate and turned into a dick mogger. It's also worth noting that I always had a naturally long dick (not remarkably thick before bathmate tho, so it did take more blood for me to get a hard rock quality erection so that might've contributed to my ed seeming worse to me). I also was a chronic gooner and porn watcher since 11 years old so I strongly believe I already had some porn induced ED to begin with, so now knowing what I know I believe I would've always benefited greatly from cialis/bathmatemaxxing even if I never took fin. Although I do remember my sexual encounters in my late teens being positive due to good erections and being perceived as having a decent cock (not the mogger cock I got after starting PE post fin/dut tho).

Anyways my real question is should I just take dut again seeing that I'm 26 now (soon 27) so nuking DHT shouldn't matter that much especially considering I already did it at 21/22? I just fear the so called cognitive side effects that can come from nuking DHT even tho I honestly don't remember much of that back when I took dut 5 years ago, what I remember vividly was the high anxiety that came from being a young baldcel surrounded by prime Stacies that didn't go away until dut fully kicked it and I was able to start running cover up game and eventually stabilized my hairline.
Or should I give RU58841 a chance? I strongly considered it back then seeing I was early 20s and everybody kept saying DHT was still necessary at that time in development but I decided not to go with it because of some high IQ posts/threads on lookism pleading a case on how it was a very experimental compound and nobody had any idea of the long term implications of it whereas there were several cases of people running dut for decades and having mogger hair and only having to deal with reduced erection quality (which happens with age anyway) easily dealt with cialis (another safe to run long term drug). Also the dreaded heart palpitations a lot of users reported that scared the shit out of them and made them stop RU cold turkey and just switch to dut and deal with nuked DHT sides.

Have there been any developments on the long term of RU use in the last couple years? or is dut + cialis/bathmate still king?
Wait, to clarify. You were only in treatment for a year, then discontinued after 21?
 
Depends what risk profile you’re comfortable taking.

You could increase Dutasteride to 2.5mg which will increase scalp DHT suppression to 79%, up from roughly 50% on 0.5mg

You could use RU, which is a topical anti androgen - it will work really well with a 5ar inhibitor.

You could also add minoxidil to really stimulate growth.

Or do all three for synergistic benefits.

have u used minoxidil yourself? I never got on it cuz I remember people saying if u stopped all ur regrowth would fall off so u had to stay on it for life pretty much. whereas with dut and dermaneedling you'd get to keep it long as u stayed suppressing dht
 
couple months if any. hop off that garbage and get on dut that shit actually works and I strongly believe fin is the shit that actually kucks u despite not being as strong as dut. A fellow young stacy at the time got my number off the managers office while I was on fin, we fooled around for a little bit but no sexual contact then one day she dragged me to her apartment complex and we made out for a while and eventually she started grabbing my cock and realized I wasn't really hard. went ghost afterwards, before that she was obsessed with me. If I would've been on dut and cialis I would've fucked the shit out of her in the pool chairs, I wanted to rope. About 6 months before that (hopping on fin) I exposed a raging boner to a girl in the movie theater and proceeded to get topped off in my car. fin no bueno bro, how old are you?

also you need to be derma needling to expedite the process and actually get regrowth.
17, Id rather delay dut a bit just incase the type 1 dht is actually doing something (type 2 dht is mostly in the genitals and skin)

I heard derma rolling is cope and can actually rip off weak follicles. Do you microneedle?

I dont have ed issues so far, my genitals were doing some weird ass shit for about the first week but its been fine since then for me
 
have u used minoxidil yourself? I never got on it cuz I remember people saying if u stopped all ur regrowth would fall off so u had to stay on it for life pretty much. whereas with dut and dermaneedling you'd get to keep it long as u stayed suppressing dht
Currently using meds for loss i need some help
 
have u used minoxidil yourself? I never got on it cuz I remember people saying if u stopped all ur regrowth would fall off so u had to stay on it for life pretty much. whereas with dut and dermaneedling you'd get to keep it long as u stayed suppressing dht
If you stop any pharmacological treatment, you will lose all your hair gains.

There’s no lifestyle where you could maintain 50% scalp DHT suppression from 0.5mg of Dutasteride.

Only way you could achieve a similar kind of kind of DHT reduction is if you were roiding and then stopped.
 
Wait, to clarify. You were only in treatment for a year, then discontinued after 21?

yes roughly. I was 22 the last dut dose I ever took (.5 capsule) I always stayed dermaneedling but became pretty inconsistent with it the last 2 years sometimes going a couple months without doing it. My hair looks fine rn unless pulled back but then you can see the recession starting again, even though I've showed it to my younger friends and they say "well thats actually pretty okay for someone close to 27" however I wanna catch it early again so I can cruise to mid 30s with good hair especially considering I have a young looking face. For what's worth noting I did develop a very slanted dimorphic forehead the past few years wonder if it had to do with dht coming back, most likely. not that I had a flat browridge before but it really projects now
 
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saw a guy with 7k rep and all he did was paste what gpt said, so obvious
 
yes roughly. I was 22 the last dut dose I ever took (.5 capsule) I always stayed dermaneedling but became pretty inconsistent with it the last 2 years sometimes going a couple months without doing it. My hair looks fine rn unless pulled back but then you can see the recession starting again, even though I've showed it to my younger friends and they say "well thats actually pretty okay for someone close to 27" however I wanna catch it early again so I can cruise to mid 30s with good hair especially considering I have a young looking face. For what's worth noting I did develop a very slanted dimorphic forehead the past few years wonder if it had to do with dht coming back, most likely. not that I had a flat browridge before but it really projects now
No, DHT suppression isn’t changing your browridge post puberty. Nothing happened.

Sounds like you’ve maintained on no meds for almost a decade. You should just hop on finasteride and give it a year. The initial shed you described is completely normal and a sign treatment was working.

You panicked and self medicated without understanding what the treatment does.
 
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If you stop any pharmacological treatment, you will lose all your hair gains.

There’s no lifestyle where you could maintain 50% scalp DHT suppression from 0.5mg of Dutasteride.

Only way you could achieve a similar kind of kind of DHT reduction is if you were roiding and then stopped.
Yes correct. I understand that, I always knew the day would come I'd have to hop back on it. Dut and dermaneedling brought my shit back to life so much that I decided to discontinue dut and cruise with dermaneedling for as long as I could since I was still developing and wanted to mascunilize a bit more especially since I hopped on it so young (I was a young ass looking 21 year old when I hopped on 5ar inhibitors, not cuck looking or anything but could've easily larped 17-18 year old HS athlete long as I was running cover up game). And to be fair I did masculinized more, thicker wrists, slanted forehead and protruding browridge. I'm at pace with having gotten 5 solid years of not looking like I was receding after being on hair pills for 1 year only. Now it's time to take action again
 
No, DHT suppression isn’t changing your browridge post puberty. Nothing happened.

Sounds like you’ve maintained on no meds for almost a decade. You should just hop on finasteride and give it a year. The initial shed you described is completely normal and a sign treatment was working.

You panicked and self medicated without understanding what the treatment does.
Yes true I panicked crazy almost had a nervous attack no bullshit, looked in the mirror one day after showering and suddenly I couldn't run cover up game no more and since my dad is NW5+ I thought I couldn't take no chances seeing I was just 21 years old couldn't stomach being bald. Have u taken fin or dut before yourself?
 
Depends what risk profile you’re comfortable taking.

You could increase Dutasteride to 2.5mg which will increase scalp DHT suppression to 79%, up from roughly 50% on 0.5mg

You could use RU, which is a topical anti androgen - it will work really well with a 5ar inhibitor.

You could also add minoxidil to really stimulate growth.

Or do all three for synergistic benefits.
have u ever heard about the heart palpitations on RU? it took going a little bit down the hair loss forum posts rabbit hole to start seeing it but people were definitely reporting them. This was back in the late 2010s
 
Yes true I panicked crazy almost had a nervous attack no bullshit, looked in the mirror one day after showering and suddenly I couldn't run cover up game no more and since my dad is NW5+ I thought I couldn't take no chances seeing I was just 21 years old couldn't stomach being bald. Have u taken fin or dut before yourself?
It’s understandable. Hair loss is the first sign of our own mortality.

I’m a DUT user myself. Prevention is worth more than the cure.
 
It’s understandable. Hair loss is the first sign of our own mortality.

I’m a DUT user myself. Prevention is worth more than the cure.

Are u in the US? I sourced fin/dut back in the day from one of those Indian pharmacies but I wonder if there's a better option these days like goodrx (I know them in particular don't prescribe dut since its not fda approved tho) can u help with a source if ur in the US please
 
I use it along with Dut 2.5mg.

I have nothing bad to say about RU apart from the slight hassle of it being a topical.
 
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Are u in the US? I sourced fin/dut back in the day from one of those Indian pharmacies but I wonder if there's a better option these days like goodrx (I know them in particular don't prescribe dut since its not fda approved tho) can u help with a source if ur in the US please
Not based in the US. I’m sure there are online US vendors that can provide.
You’ve got HIMs and other well known, reputable suppliers.
 
tarted losing hair as a 21 year old and hopped on fin, don't think it helped much and the fin shed made my shit look even more receded so I panicked and hopped on dut, that shit worked
How long have you been on Finasterid until you decided it was not worth it to you and switched to dut?
Although I do remember my sexual encounters in my late teens being positive due to good erections and being perceived as having a decent cock (not the mogger cock I got after starting PE post fin/dut tho).
How much did you gain through PE? And what size is a mogger cock jfl?
Ive been doing PE for almost a year now but gains are slow even though im somewhat consistent id say. Do you track strain and BPSFL before snd after a session?
Or should I give RU58841 a chance? I strongly considered it back then seeing I was early 20s and everybody kept saying DHT was still necessary at that time in development but I decided not to go with it because of some high IQ posts/threads on lookism pleading a case on how it was a very experimental compound
Ive been using RU for almost 3 months now combined with Minoxidil. Honestly ive seen my hairline thicken a bit i would say but its too early to tell for sure if it worked. I may use RU for another 3 months and then add fin if RU didnt fulfill my expectations i just turned 21 as well so i think im able to use fin or dut without them inhibiting any future development
Also the dreaded heart palpitations a lot of users reported that scared the shit out of them and made them stop RU cold turkey and just switch to dut and deal with nuked DHT sides.

Have there been any developments on the long term of RU use in the last couple years? or is dut + cialis/bathmate still king?
I havent gotten any sides from RU. So i think sides are rare and if you think youve gotten any RU is pretty quick out of your system so any long term implications are unlikely imo. Also RU has been abandoned by its delevopment team many years ago so you can only go off anecdotal evidence mostly for safety and long term results.
 
systemic androgen receptor blocking
 
How long have you been on Finasterid until you decided it was not worth it to you and switched to dut?

How much did you gain through PE? And what size is a mogger cock jfl?
Ive been doing PE for almost a year now but gains are slow even though im somewhat consistent id say. Do you track strain and BPSFL before snd after a session?

Ive been using RU for almost 3 months now combined with Minoxidil. Honestly ive seen my hairline thicken a bit i would say but its too early to tell for sure if it worked. I may use RU for another 3 months and then add fin if RU didnt fulfill my expectations i just turned 21 as well so i think im able to use fin or dut without them inhibiting any future development

I havent gotten any sides from RU. So i think sides are rare and if you think youve gotten any RU is pretty quick out of your system so any long term implications are unlikely imo. Also RU has been abandoned by its delevopment team many years ago so you can only go off anecdotal evidence mostly for safety and long term results.


How long have you been on Finasterid until you decided it was not worth it to you and switched to dut?

couple months not sure it was 5 years ago but definitely not more than 4 months

How much did you gain through PE? And what size is a mogger cock jfl?
Ive been doing PE for almost a year now but gains are slow even though im somewhat consistent id say. Do you track strain and BPSFL before snd after a session?

its kinda hard to tell. I always had a naturally long dick but It was 6.5 max in middle school/early HS, my shit was never very thick maybe 4.5 borderline pencil dick. But like I said in a post earlier in the thread I was a chronic gooner and porn watcher since around 10/11 years old so I strongly believe by the time I was in my mid teens I already had porn induced ED and never really got a full hard on erection unless I was with an actual female. Currently I'm 7.5 x 5.5 can push 6+ girth on cialis fresh off the pump. Hit 6.5 after a crazy pump session on like 60mg of viagra.

I don't track anything after sessions I can just tell my dick looks big and whenever a girl sees it she says its way bigger than most guys. Also ran crazy print game at a couple places I worked out when I was younger wearing thin cotton shorts and popping 5mg cialis every 2 days, at one point the girls would audibly grasp or make comments. Don't really do It anymore since I'm older I gotta be more selective on when to do it.
BTW if ur not using cialis ur wasting ur time with PE, and all I do is bathmate btw.

Mogger dick is 7+ length 5+ girth or tbh 6.5 length if the girth is 6+. don't listen to the looksmax memes about 8 x 6.5 those dicks exist but are obviously very rare (7+ is rare girls always comment on my length being extremely above average) the ones that are not straight up larping and just joining on the meme are probably saying they're 8+ because when their cock is inside the pump they hit that mark but tbh I go past 8 in the pump and don't even claim that shit because I never reach that outside the pump so it doesn't matter, i'd probably have to take an insane viagra dose + be fucking a legit Stacy or take one of those obscure ED meds that pornstars use (on top of cialis/viagra) to go past 8.
 
couple months not sure it was 5 years ago but definitely not more than 4 months
Short time but doesnt really matter if youre happy on dut anyway.
its kinda hard to tell. I always had a naturally long dick but It was 6.5 max in middle school/early HS, my shit was never very thick maybe 4.5 borderline pencil dick. But like I said in a post earlier in the thread I was a chronic gooner and porn watcher since around 10/11 years old so I strongly believe by the time I was in my mid teens I already had porn induced ED and never really got a full hard on erection unless I was with an actual female.
Kinda the same for me before PE (or even now) i always had pretty long dick naturally but kinda thin also just around 4.5-4.75 inches
Currently I'm 7.5 x 5.5 can push 6+ girth on cialis fresh off the pump. Hit 6.5 after a crazy pump session on like 60mg of viagra.
Woah how did you gain so much girth? Just why bathmate pumping? Ive exact same length as well through vac hanging (7.5 inches bone pressed now) but girth gains have been really slow for me. Im around 5 inches now after over a year of somewhat consistent air pumping. Not sure if its makes a difference if you water pump vs air pump.
6-6.5 inches of girth for you after pumping is probably with a bunch of edema right?
I don't track anything after sessions I can just tell my dick looks big and whenever a girl sees it she says its way bigger than most guys. Also ran crazy print game at a couple places I worked out when I was younger wearing thin cotton shorts and popping 5mg cialis every 2 days, at one point the girls would audibly grasp or make comments. Don't really do It anymore since I'm older I gotta be more selective on when to do it.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Wtf bro did that shit work? Did you actually slay girls through print game?
BTW if ur not using cialis ur wasting ur time with PE, and all I do is bathmate btw.
So only pumping right? Youve never done anything else?! Really how big of a difference does cialis make during pumping for getting gains? Why do you say its so important? I have bought some but always get a super stuffy nose whenever i take it (20mg tabs)
Mogger dick is 7+ length 5+ girth or tbh 6.5 length if the girth is 6+. don't listen to the looksmax memes about 8 x 6.5 those dicks exist but are obviously very rare (7+ is rare girls always comment on my length being extremely above average) the ones that are not straight up larping and just joining on the meme are probably saying they're 8+ because when their cock is inside the pump they hit that mark but tbh I go past 8 in the pump and don't even claim that shit because I never reach that outside the pump so it doesn't matter, i'd probably have to take an insane viagra dose + be fucking a legit Stacy or take one of those obscure ED meds that pornstars use (on top of cialis/viagra) to go past 8.

Yeah i agree. Girth is probably way more important than length anyway. We are talking about bone presses measurements right?
What kind of ED meds are you talking about ? Injectable PGE1? Btw do you combine cialis and viagra?
 
Short time but doesnt really matter if youre happy on dut anyway.

Kinda the same for me before PE (or even now) i always had pretty long dick naturally but kinda thin also just around 4.5-4.75 inches

Woah how did you gain so much girth? Just why bathmate pumping? Ive exact same length as well through vac hanging (7.5 inches bone pressed now) but girth gains have been really slow for me. Im around 5 inches now after over a year of somewhat consistent air pumping. Not sure if its makes a difference if you water pump vs air pump.
6-6.5 inches of girth for you after pumping is probably with a bunch of edema right?

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Wtf bro did that shit work? Did you actually slay girls through print game?

So only pumping right? Youve never done anything else?! Really how big of a difference does cialis make during pumping for getting gains? Why do you say its so important? I have bought some but always get a super stuffy nose whenever i take it (20mg tabs)


Yeah i agree. Girth is probably way more important than length anyway. We are talking about bone presses measurements right?
What kind of ED meds are you talking about ? Injectable PGE1? Btw do you combine cialis and viagra?
Woah how did you gain so much girth? Just why bathmate pumping?. Not sure if its makes a difference if you water pump vs air pump.
6-6.5 inches of girth for you after pumping is probably with a bunch of edema right?

yea air pump sucks, never worked for me, bathmate changed my life. Its a lot easier and sustainable to subject ur cock to lots of pressure. And tbh the way I look at it I think bathmate really just helped me reach my genetic potential (and then more) because I always found it odd my dick wasn't very thick but I've come to realize I always just had a porn induced ED and jerking off watching porn multiple times a day from age 10/11 to 19 probably cucked my natural girth. And no edema. I rarely ever get that shit now only if I do a very intense session on viagra and the glans starts rubbing on the cylinder walls a lot, its the bottom of my cock that gets a lot thicker and solid after pumping but no edema.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Wtf bro did that shit work? Did you actually slay girls through print game?

yes but u need good face and also I was running exotic game on white girls. but need good face else ur a creep and they hate it especially if they're pretty. Don't gotta be chad but at least cutemaxxed mtn imo. Also body. Only then they care about ur cock

So only pumping right? Youve never done anything else?! Really how big of a difference does cialis make during pumping for getting gains? Why do you say its so important? I have bought some but always get a super stuffy nose whenever i take it (20mg tabs)

yes pump only. Cialis/viagra matters a lot it maximizes ur erections and pump sessions and its how u break through plateaus, after ur late teens u don't really get legit full erections anymore (most guys don't know what a full erection even is tbh) unless on gear or with very hot girls. 20 mg is a lot, best is 5 mg srs. this is sort of a consensus on cialis, viagra is where u can do crazy shyt with high doses but you WILL get headaches.
 
Short time but doesnt really matter if youre happy on dut anyway.

Kinda the same for me before PE (or even now) i always had pretty long dick naturally but kinda thin also just around 4.5-4.75 inches

Woah how did you gain so much girth? Just why bathmate pumping? Ive exact same length as well through vac hanging (7.5 inches bone pressed now) but girth gains have been really slow for me. Im around 5 inches now after over a year of somewhat consistent air pumping. Not sure if its makes a difference if you water pump vs air pump.
6-6.5 inches of girth for you after pumping is probably with a bunch of edema right?

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Wtf bro did that shit work? Did you actually slay girls through print game?

So only pumping right? Youve never done anything else?! Really how big of a difference does cialis make during pumping for getting gains? Why do you say its so important? I have bought some but always get a super stuffy nose whenever i take it (20mg tabs)


Yeah i agree. Girth is probably way more important than length anyway. We are talking about bone presses measurements right?
What kind of ED meds are you talking about ? Injectable PGE1? Btw do you combine cialis and viagra?

Girth is more important than length but if u have both length helps a lot, its about the total volume of ur cock and the more length u have the larger the volume is (assuming good girth). And yes stuff like that, although I've never tried it, I will tho. I have mixed viagra and cialis sometimes but not all the time, I'm selective with viagra cuz is easy to get a headache (that won't go away till u go to bed) I just do 5 mg cialis every other day or 3 days although I've gone months without taking it but thats just back when id get lazy sourcing it, nowadays is easy with goodrx and shit like that (US)
 
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yea air pump sucks, never worked for me, bathmate changed my life. Its a lot easier and sustainable to subject ur cock to lots of pressure. And tbh the way I look at it I think bathmate really just helped me reach my genetic potential (and then more) becaus
How long did you try air pumping for if I may ask? I think air pumping and water pumping are very similar. Water pumping may have a small edge over air since the pressure is more uniform.
age 10/11 to 19 probably cucked my natural girth. And no edema. I rarely ever get that shit now only if I do a very intense session on viagra and the glans starts rubbing on the cylinder walls a lot, its the bottom of my cock that gets a lot thicker and solid after pumping but no edema.
Really no edema? My dick looks like a goblin after ever pumping session. How long do you pump for? Do you do intervals or just straight pumping?
yes but u need good face and also I was running exotic game on white girls. but need good face else ur a creep and they hate it especially if they're pretty. Don't gotta be chad but at least cutemaxxed mtn imo. Also body. Only then they care about ur cock
That's crazy. Any advice how to print more without making it look like you have a boner 😂?
Cialis/viagra matters a lot it maximizes ur erections and pump sessions and its how u break through plateaus, after ur late teens u don't really get legit full erections anymore (most guys don't know what a full erection even is tbh) unless on gear or with very hot girls. 20 mg is a lot, best is 5 mg srs. this is sort of a consensus on cialis, viagra is where u can do crazy shyt with high doses but you WILL get headaches.
Alright I will try a lower dose. Why do you combine Viagra with Cialis though? Aren't they both PDE5-Inhibitors and Viagra is just a weaker version of Cialis?
 

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