What do you think is more appealing to the woman with the same looks base?

[legsflexxx]

I am in kind of an argument with myself. I think that you should appeal max until you get past of the age of 25. For young women nt guy who never talks about lm and bp and genuinely makes it look like he doesn’t realize how attractive he is. As an appeal max I think young guys should be aiming towards teen Leo Decaprio. I genuinely believe that while you are young you need to abuse it and not get really muscular. You need to be athletic but not a bodybuilder. I think you should bodybuild max when you look older to get to the different age group of women attracted to you. Or am I wrong? What do you think?

 

[ehrehn]

I am in kind of an argument with myself. I think that you should appeal max until you get past of the age of 25. For young women nt guy who never talks about lm and bp and genuinely makes it look like he doesn’t realize how attractive he is. As an appeal max I think young guys should be aiming towards teen Leo Decaprio. I genuinely believe that while you are young you need to abuse it and not get really muscular. You need to be athletic but not a bodybuilder. I think you should bodybuild max when you look older to get to the different age group of women attracted to you. Or am I wrong? What do you think?

aesthethics are always better then being big lol do u see girls tryna fuck hulk or spiderman

 

[BR32]

All of the women I've gotten with preferred muscle and they told me they did.

It's really hard to get "too big" even on gear

 

[legsflexxx]

All of the women I've gotten with preferred muscle and they told me they did.

It's really hard to get "too big" even on gear

Well yeah but with bigger bone mass you move to the diff age group of women attracted to you. No? I really enjoy bb, and understand that you need to work for a really long time or take not normal doses of gear to become really big when it becomes an ick, but I just don’t really know if younger women(let’s say 16-25) prefer bigger muscle over a lean aesthetic guy with moderate amount of muscle. Basically no reason to roid max for the mirin physique at young age

 

[legsflexxx]

Well yeah but with bigger bone mass you move to the diff age group of women attracted to you. No? I really enjoy bb, and understand that you need to work for a really long time or take not normal doses of gear to become really big when it becomes an ick, but I just don’t really know if younger women(let’s say 16-25) prefer bigger muscle over a lean aesthetic guy with moderate amount of muscle. Basically no reason to roid max for the mirin physique at young age

Not a bone mass, I meant muscle mass, my bad

 

[BR32]

Well yeah but with bigger bone mass you move to the diff age group of women attracted to you. No? I really enjoy bb, and understand that you need to work for a really long time or take not normal doses of gear to become really big when it becomes an ick, but I just don’t really know if younger women(let’s say 16-25) prefer bigger muscle over a lean aesthetic guy with moderate amount of muscle. Basically no reason to roid max for the mirin physique at young age

Depends where you live tbh I live in a place where I can be shirtless a good portion of the year if I want and I've noticed meaningful female attention for my body. However I'm also not absurdly big yet.

 

[BR32]

Not a bone mass, I meant muscle mass, my bad

what do you consider lean and aesthetic?

 

[legsflexxx]

what do you consider lean and aesthetic?

Around 185 lean for over 6 foot guys and 160 lean for 5-5.11 guys

 

[BR32]

Around 185 lean for over 6 foot guys and 160 lean for 5-5.11 guys

ok so I would fall into that category then right?

165 5'11

chest is lacking I gotta lock in

 

[ryze1x]

I am in kind of an argument with myself. I think that you should appeal max until you get past of the age of 25. For young women nt guy who never talks about lm and bp and genuinely makes it look like he doesn’t realize how attractive he is. As an appeal max I think young guys should be aiming towards teen Leo Decaprio. I genuinely believe that while you are young you need to abuse it and not get really muscular. You need to be athletic but not a bodybuilder. I think you should bodybuild max when you look older to get to the different age group of women attracted to you. Or am I wrong? What do you think?

robustmaxx past 25

 

[legsflexxx]

Depends where you live tbh I live in a place where I can be shirtless a good portion of the year if I want and I've noticed meaningful female attention for my body. However I'm also not absurdly big yet.

so

ok so I would fall into that category then right? View attachment 4445559

165 5'11

chest is lacking I gotta lock in

Well yeah, but if you will keep stacking muscle on your frame will get bigger and you will become more of bb type of guy. Right now you have the best description of lean and aesthetic but you are on the edge of a higher end, you have even more muscle mass the needed

 

[legsflexxx]

so

Well yeah, but if you will keep stacking muscle on your frame will get bigger and you will become more of bb type of guy. Right now you have the best description of lean and aesthetic but you are on the edge of a higher end, you have even more muscle mass the needed

But I’d get little bit leaner if I’d be on your place. Anyways physique mirin brah

 

[BR32]

so

Well yeah, but if you will keep stacking muscle on your frame will get bigger and you will become more of bb type of guy. Right now you have the best description of lean and aesthetic but you are on the edge of a higher end, you have even more muscle mass the needed

This is me right before getting on roids so I guess I'll be more bb pretty soon.

I'm gonna stay lean tho I've got pretty good insertions I'm chasing that IG reels mogger aesthetic

 

[BR32]

But I’d get little bit leaner if I’d be on your place. Anyways physique mirin brah

Thanks twin thats my plan

 

[legsflexxx]

This is me right before getting on roids so I guess I'll be more bb pretty soon.

I'm gonna stay lean tho I've got pretty good insertions I'm chasing that IG reels mogger aesthetic

So you do think that bigger = more female gaze. Because yeah you will get way more respect from men and it will help you in the business and irl situations but I’m not sure about women tho. IMHO I think the best time to get on roids is after your teen phase, when person is in their mid 20 to status max and move to the diff age demographic of women who finds you extremely attractive

 

[BR32]

So you do think that bigger = more female gaze. Because yeah you will get way more respect from men and it will help you in the business and irl situations but I’m not sure about women tho. IMHO I think the best time to get on roids is after your teen phase, when person is in their mid 20 to status max and move to the diff age demographic of women who finds you extremely attractive

Honestly you've got a point I'm doing it more derived from my own insecurities ( and because I want to drive further facial masculinization)
Girls don't really care that much more once you have a certain baseline degree of muscularity.

 

[BR32]

So you do think that bigger = more female gaze. Because yeah you will get way more respect from men and it will help you in the business and irl situations but I’m not sure about women tho. IMHO I think the best time to get on roids is after your teen phase, when person is in their mid 20 to status max and move to the diff age demographic of women who finds you extremely attractive

In part I'm doing it because I'm hoping it'll help me be a whore this summer

 

[legsflexxx]

In part I'm doing it because I'm hoping itll help me be a whore this summer

I’m pretty sure you can be a whore with current build, that’s my point and my question. Do you think it will even benefit you getting bigger at young age? I’m just also wondering because age pill is brutal and why not abuse it and get on roids later on? Roids age you faster so you will lose your teenage/young adult features way quicker that it supposed to happen

 

[BR32]

I’m pretty sure you can be a whore with current build, that’s my point and my question. Do you think it will even benefit you getting bigger at young age? I’m just also wondering because age pill is brutal and why not abuse it and get on roids later on? Roids age you faster so you will lose your teenage/young adult features way quicker that it supposed to happen

I optimistically think it will help me but that might just be body dysmorphia talking. And you're right androgen driven aging is fucking nasty especially if you do legit cycles. I'm pretty smart so I think I'd be able to mitigate sides fairly well but you raise a very very good point.

Is it worth it?

I think my face could use the soft tissue benefits and muscular hypertrophy but am I sacrificing long term looks?

 

[legsflexxx]

I’m pretty sure you can be a whore with current build, that’s my point and my question. Do you think it will even benefit you getting bigger at young age? I’m just also wondering because age pill is brutal and why not abuse it and get on roids later on? Roids age you faster so you will lose your teenage/young adult features way quicker that it supposed to happen

I think leaner guy with above avg muscle mass will mog not as lean but bigger guy with hella muscle mass? What do you think and why?

 

[legsflexxx]

I optimistically think it will help me but that might just be body dysmorphia talking. And you're right androgen driven aging is fucking nasty especially if you do legit cycles. I'm pretty smart so I think I'd be able to mitigate sides fairly well but you raise a very very good point.

Is it worth it?

I think my face could use the soft tissue benefits and muscular hypertrophy but am I sacrificing long term looks?

Yeah I think it is not sacrificing because bigger doesn’t mean uglier and don’t get me wrong high muscle mass is awesome and mirin, but you give up a golden time frame and move from young girls to senior college sluts and older. Also I think it will be way more sex for a guy on a roids stack but he loses the probability of finding a wife material girl. I’m pretty sure htbs who have 0-2 body count and are actually amazing wife material, will not be attracted to the roids mogger?! Idk prove me wrong

 

[BR32]

Yeah I think it is not sacrificing because bigger doesn’t mean uglier and don’t get me wrong high muscle mass is awesome and mirin, but you give up a golden time frame and move from young girls to senior college sluts and older. Also I think it will be way more sex for a guy on a roids stack but he loses the probability of finding a wife material girl. I’m pretty sure htbs who have 0-2 body count and are actually amazing wife material, will not be attracted to the roids mogger?! Idk prove me wrong

bro we need to do a study on this shit

 

[legsflexxx]

bro we need to do a study on this shit

Yeah that’s what I’m trying to do, because I’m in the middle of discussion with my coach, whether should I go to the bb and go on a cycle to get a mirin physique or if that will only take away opportunities in the love life and will make more discussion behind my back of the normies talking how uncanny bb look

 

[BR32]

Yeah I think it is not sacrificing because bigger doesn’t mean uglier and don’t get me wrong high muscle mass is awesome and mirin, but you give up a golden time frame and move from young girls to senior college sluts and older. Also I think it will be way more sex for a guy on a roids stack but he loses the probability of finding a wife material girl. I’m pretty sure htbs who have 0-2 body count and are actually amazing wife material, will not be attracted to the roids mogger?! Idk prove me wrong

How much do you value finding a wife material girl right now? Personally it's not super high on my list of priorities. Sluts are great as long as you don't marry them lol.

 

[BR32]

Yeah that’s what I’m trying to do, because I’m in the middle of discussion with my coach, whether should I go to the bb and go on a cycle to get a mirin physique or if that will only take away opportunities in the love life and will make more discussion behind my back of the normies talking how uncanny bb look

I think BB only looks super uncanny if you end up lookin like an open bodybuilder which isn't gonna happen for either of us.

Tbf tho my perception is warped by looksmaxxing and gymeelling

 

[legsflexxx]

How much do you value finding a wife material girl right now? Personally it's not super high on my list of priorities. Sluts are great as long as you don't marry them lol.

Not a lot in the moment. But time makes it more difficult tbh. I don’t really want to date and settle with anyone after my last crazy ex that was stalking me. I don’t wanna have exes anymore, if I’m gonna date someone, it would be the girl I’m wanna marry, otherwise I only talk to girls for fun or for sex

 

[ssxjdgh]

Appeal isn't a real thing

 

[BR32]

Not a lot in the moment. But time makes it more difficult tbh. I don’t really want to date and settle with anyone after my last crazy ex that was stalking me. I don’t wanna have exes anymore, if I’m gonna date someone, it would be the girl I’m wanna marry, otherwise I only talk to girls for fun or for sex

Thats valid bro sorry you got traumatized. I've never been in a real relationship and thats something I def want going forward but I'm also not done sleeping around.

 

[legsflexxx]

I think BB only looks super uncanny if you end up lookin like an open bodybuilder which isn't gonna happen for either of us.

Tbf tho my perception is warped by looksmaxxing and gymeelling

Okay let’s imagine a situation. Andrewsaccount and Dorian, who do you think pull more and why. They are both lean af and have above average face card, but who will pull more? Do you think now personality and jester maxxing comes into place?

 

[BR32]

Okay let’s imagine a situation. Andrewsaccount and Dorian, who do you think pull more and why. They are both lean af and have above average face card, but who will pull more? Do you think now personality and jester maxxing comes into place?

We talking Dorian Saracci?

 

[legsflexxx]

Thats valid bro sorry you got traumatized. I've never been in a real relationship and thats something I def want going forward but I'm also not done sleeping around.

Dude it is way better to be a whore then to settle with a person who can’t be qualified for a future wife with a lot of mental flaws. Having exes is weird and extremely awkward idk fuck that

 

[legsflexxx]

We talking Dorian Saracci?

Yeah

 

[BR32]

Dude it is way better to be a whore then to settle with a person who can’t be qualified for a future wife with a lot of mental flaws. Having exes is weird and extremely awkward idk fuck that

preach bro

 

[BR32]

Yeah

Personally I find Dorian way more appealing and attractive

Thats basically my goal physique

 

[BR32]

Okay let’s imagine a situation. Andrewsaccount and Dorian, who do you think pull more and why. They are both lean af and have above average face card, but who will pull more? Do you think now personality and jester maxxing comes into place?

I think Dorian would pull more just based on the body halo and tan ngl but this is def the point where personality comes in

 

[legsflexxx]

Personally I find Dorian way more appealing and attractive

Thats basically my goal physique

Yeah but he lost all of his pretty boy appeal and now he is more qualified “dad bod” or what foids say for an extremely hardworking persons physique with hella muscle mass

 

[legsflexxx]

I think Dorian would pull more just based on the body halo and tan ngl but this is def the point where personality comes in

Well than we got to the conclusion that getting mirin physique is the solution but side effects needs to be minimized and you should do low doses not to get fucked up

 

[BR32]

Yeah but he lost all of his pretty boy appeal and now he is more qualified “dad bod” or what foids say for an extremely hardworking persons physique with hella muscle mass

Dad bod is brutal lmao

 

[BR32]

Well than we got to the conclusion that getting mirin physique is the solution but side effects needs to be minimized and you should do low doses not to get fucked up

So you roiding up? mogger whore summer 2026

 

[BR32]

Well than we got to the conclusion that getting mirin physique is the solution but side effects needs to be minimized and you should do low doses not to get fucked up

Ok here is the real answer, if you have the genetics go for bodybuilding but if you have mid insertions go pretty boy lean

 

[legsflexxx]

So you roiding up? mogger whore summer 2026

Well first I’ll finish my cut, and then I think yeah, but nothing serious. Probably test + something that coach will advise me for the max result least side effects

 

[BR32]

Well first I’ll finish my cut, and then I think yeah, but nothing serious. Probably test + something that coach will advise me for the max result least side effects

I'm running just 300 test rn which felt like a pretty good starting place.

 

[legsflexxx]

Ok here is the real answer, if you have the genetics go for bodybuilding but if you have mid insertions go pretty boy lean

Oh that’s a nice answer I fucking love it how the fuck do I pin ts to the main page of fitness category

 

[BR32]

Oh that’s a nice answer I fucking love it how the fuck do I pin ts to the main page of fitness category

We gotta tag someone

 

[legsflexxx]

I'm running just 300 test rn which felt like a pretty good starting place.

How is your experience?

 

[BR32]

Oh that’s a nice answer I fucking love it how the fuck do I pin ts to the main page of fitness category

the problem is tho that the fags on this forum are too lazy unlock even a tiny bit of their natty potential before hoping on so they don't even know if they have good insertions

 

[BR32]

How is your experience?

So far it's pretty great I've only been on like a week lol but seeing minor changes already. I'll report back in 6 weeks

 

[BR32]

How is your experience?

I think another issue too is the cycles that people run on here are retarded and don't make any sense

 

[legsflexxx]

So you roiding up? mogger whore summer 2026

Well whore summer is the plan anyways, with roids or without them haha, luckily I have really unique features and coloring and a lot of women find it really attractive ( blue/green eyes, dark ginger hair and good symmetry). But roids will definitely help

 

[legsflexxx]

So far it's pretty great I've only been on like a week lol but seeing minor changes already. I'll report back in 6 weeks

How many test cycles are you going to do? Are you planning to go on PCT after?