What do you think of a Pan Europeans identity?

[enchanted_elixir]

All north western Europeans originate from 12-13 germanic tribes Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Franks, Goths, Vandals. All north western Europeans are more or less the same gene pool but slavs and meds that have always been distinct

They are distinct genetically, culturally and looks wise. Northwesterners have higher Western Hunter-Gatherer Slavs shifted eastward with Baltic have Steppe influence and Mediterraneans have more Neolithic farmer ancestry from the south. It's quite easy to tell them apart. NWs have taller faces, bigger foreheads while slavs have broader faces and shorter skills while meds often have darker pigmentation and more gracile features.

Slavs also lived in completely different society until just a few decades ago.
Culturally they are worlds apart. NW Europe pioneered early capitalism, Protestant work ethic and Enlightenment liberalism lkke Dutch Golden Age, British Industrial Revolution. Slavs endured Orthodox faith, Mongol/Tatar yoke, Ottoman sieges then Soviet iron fist delaying market reforms till the '90s. Meds held Roman Catholic roots, clan-based societies. No shared anything till post-WWII


Yes, they are all european now thanks to EU integration, mass migration, and shared threats like globalization. And because of ethnics migration to countries theres a somewhat shared identity across them but historically they didn't care about each other at all. Even between germanic countries there was no unity like British vs French, British vs Irish

The unfiied identity is 20th century glue. Do you see Europeans as one big family or distinct branches that rarely mixed? What's your take on a unified identity thing?

You have to consider the intermarriage between the monarchs, the shared experiences of the Roman empire, the spread of Christianity, the dark ages,

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Disagree. You would think Pete Dunham is Russian if you didn't know who he was.

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Outfit gives it away

 

[Big Daddy]

fragmentation of societies started precisely in europe, with peace on westphalia in in 1648 when main tenets of today's political society were established. no such thing as a pan european identity; maybe in the sense there is a larger bigger threat, so they temporarily unite out of pure pragmatism, but that's it.

thinking EU is some example of such a potential is wrong; the entire organization was just a kneejerk reaction to hitler and ww2. same exact shit as the league of nations after ww1

 

[rapeeat88]

Should be broadly Pan EU, with Slavic, Baltic, Anglosphere etc unions inside of it.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Should be broadly Pan EU, with Slavic, Baltic, Anglosphere etc unions inside of it.

Very low IQ concept

 

[rapeeat88]

Very low IQ concept

not at all, try and elaborate.