What happens if you touch your dih after using topical fin?

[Prøphet]

I think I might have fucked up really bad

 

[averagenormie]

Have you tried using arimidex or Trt to mitigate the sides? Supposedly it should fix it since most sides are from high e2 imbalance, but I heard it might nuke your hair too

I forgot to mention the use of arimidex, I got tons of acne on my face when I used it and I thought I'm going to restore sexual drive but nothing changed ,my face still bloated ,my hair started thinning,my dick still not working , there's definitely a genetic predisposition or some individuals like me that get affected alot by lowering thier dht

 

[Prøphet]

insane tressless schizo level hypochondria, dut did not shrink your bones and fin did not shrink your balls. Wtf is this fudding.

Fin didn’t shrink my balls but it did give me 2 balls underneath my nipples that had me scratching my armpits and wincing whenever I readjusted my t shirt , this shit is genuinely horrible all jokes aside I’m glad you don’t have sides but it’s fucking infuriating when the solution to a huge problem only makes bigger problems

 

[Prøphet]

I forgot to mention the use of arimidex, I got tons of acne on my face when I used it and I thought I'm going to restore sexual drive but nothing changed ,my face still bloated ,my hair started thinning,my dick still not working , there's definitely a genetic predisposition or some individuals like me that get affected alot by lowering thier dht

Brutal

Holy I just overdosed on blackpill there is no escape

 

[averagenormie]

Brutal

Holy I just overdosed on blackpill there is no escape

Same lifestyle I had a year ago when I wasn't on dht blocker, I could get hard immediately from seeing a hot woman , now even If I see a hot woman and they're clearly naked not with clothes and with stimulation my dick just won't work and I wonder when will I be able to restore this

 

[fantamaxxer]

You rubbed fin on your dick?

Whats fin

 

[ketamin]

Same lifestyle I had a year ago when I wasn't on dht blocker, I could get hard immediately from seeing a hot woman , now even If I see a hot woman and they're clearly naked not with clothes and with stimulation my dick just won't work and I wonder when will I be able to restore this

Damn is it rlly that brutal? I ordered oral fin but didn’t start using it yet. U think using RU58841 would be better?

 

[Prøphet]

Same lifestyle I had a year ago when I wasn't on dht blocker, I could get hard immediately from seeing a hot woman , now even If I see a hot woman and they're clearly naked not with clothes and with stimulation my dick just won't work and I wonder when will I be able to restore this

Not to get into detail but when I’m off fin I literally feel like a rabid animal overcome with lust, my dick gets full asf with bloodflow and feels amazing, when I’m on fin I’m like why tf am I even doing this shit doesn’t even feel that good and sometimes even just quit halfway through

 

[averagenormie]

Damn is it rlly that brutal? I ordered oral fin but didn’t start using it yet. U think using RU58841 would be better?

Don't fuck up with dht blockers, losing hair is better than losing your sexual drive and masculine looks

 

[ketamin]

Don't fuck up with dht blockers, losing hair is better than losing your sexual drive and masculine looks

Even if I’m on a test cycle?

 

[averagenormie]

Not to get into detail but when I’m off fin I literally feel like a rabid animal intoxicated with lust, my dick gets full asf with bloodflow and feels amazing, when I’m on fin I’m like why tf am I even doing this shit doesn’t even feel that good and sometimes even just quit halfway through

That's the point we're not supposed to be like kids who barely get lustful have no facial hair and can barely jerk off

 

[Prøphet]

Damn is it rlly that brutal? I ordered oral fin but didn’t start using it yet. U think using RU58841 would be better?

There’s a good chance you won’t get sides

Ru58841 sounds dangerous asf from what I hear that shit literally can mess with the receptors in your heart if it goes systemic

Also when I stopped taking oral fin for a couple months my sex drive was back 120% after about 2 months

 

[kranerman23123]

Fin didn’t shrink my balls but it did give me 2 balls underneath my nipples that had me scratching my armpits and wincing whenever I readjusted my t shirt , this shit is genuinely horrible all jokes aside I’m glad you don’t have sides but it’s fucking infuriating when the solution to a huge problem only makes bigger problems

Man. I know you've read a lot of fud on here, but there have been randomized trials done with oral finasteride and only 4.5% of the individuals who took it got gynecomastia. 2.8% of the people who took the placebo also got gyno..... So a 1.7% chance. This was on 5 MG DAILY. On 1 mg daily, those sides are exponentially lower, well under 1% chance. Unless you started fin with absolute shit tier hormone levels, I can almost guarantee you that you are just a teenager experiencing hypochondriac placebo. Finasteride literally INCREASES YOUR TESTOSTERONE because there is less DHT, your test levels literally increase by 15-20%, so whatever estrogen increase you got is so negligible compared to the test increase, we are talking single digit numbers of increase in estrogen and double to triple digit increases in testosterone. This is a very well studied drug and all of this schizophrenia level tressless stories are just that: stories. I hate to see people lose their hair because they fell for baldcafe fudding. Happened to my brother

 

[averagenormie]

Even if I’m on a test cycle?

It depends on your genetics tbf some say they don't have any sides but I def did have the sides

 

[ketamin]

There’s a good chance you won’t get sides

Ru58841 sounds dangerous asf from what I hear that shit literally can mess with the receptors in your heart if it goes systemic

Also when I stopped taking oral fin for a couple months my sex drive was back 120% after about 2 months

So you think I should take it for my 5 month cycle and than just hop off? I also ordered Cialis, mostly for pumps. Idc about libido and shit, I just don’t want to descend myself w it.

 

[averagenormie]

Man. I know you've read a lot of fud on here, but there have been randomized trials done with oral finasteride and only 4.5% of the individuals who took it got gynecomastia. 2.8% of the people who took the placebo also got gyno..... So a 1.7% chance. This was on 5 MG DAILY. On 1 mg daily, those sides are exponentially lower, well under 1% chance. Unless you started fin with absolute shit tier hormone levels, I can almost guarantee you that you are just a teenager experiencing hypochondriac placebo. Finasteride literally INCREASES YOUR TESTOSTERONE because there is less DHT, your test levels literally increase by 15-20%, so whatever estrogen increase you got is so negligible compared to the test increase, we are talking single digit numbers of increase in estrogen and double to triple digit increases in testosterone. This is a very well studied drug and all of this schizophrenia level tressless stories are just that: stories. I hate to see people lose their hair because they fell for baldcafe fudding.

You forgot that the dht enzymes are predominantly found in the penis and is the no1 factor why you got a penis in the womb ,even the study done on dominicans they had thier srd5a2 deficiency and with ambiguous genitalia and raised as females because thier dimorphism is lower compared to the normal males and developed small penises thanks to sdr5a1 otherwise they wouldn't have any dick to begin with even when testosterone is litteraly higher

 

[kranerman23123]

You forgot that the dht enzymes are predominantly found in the penis and is the no1 factor why you got a penis in the womb ,even the study done on dominicans they had thier srd5a2 deficiency and with ambiguous genitalia and raised as females because thier dimorphism is lower compared to the normal males and developed small penises thanks to sdr5a1 otherwise they wouldn't have any dick to begin with even when testosterone is litteraly higher

Good thing my penis is fully grown

 

[Prøphet]

Man. I know you've read a lot of fud on here, but there have been randomized trials done with oral finasteride and only 4.5% of the individuals who took it got gynecomastia. 2.8% of the people who took the placebo also got gyno..... So a 1.7% chance. This was on 5 MG DAILY. On 1 mg daily, those sides are exponentially lower, well under 1% chance. Unless you started fin with absolute shit tier hormone levels, I can almost guarantee you that you are just a teenager experiencing hypochondriac placebo. Finasteride literally INCREASES YOUR TESTOSTERONE because there is less DHT, your test levels literally increase by 15-20%, so whatever estrogen increase you got is so negligible compared to the test increase, we are talking single digit numbers of increase in estrogen and double to triple digit increases in testosterone. This is a very well studied drug and all of this schizophrenia level tressless stories are just that: stories. I hate to see people lose their hair because they fell for baldcafe fudding.

Even 0.2mg blocks almost as much DHT as 5mg so the dose doesn’t really matter it’s logarithmic

I knew ed could be a side effect and depression but I had no idea that gyno was and I still got it

Actually I knew all about the nocebo effect and my sex drive went up a lot in the first couple weeks, then my dick literally died

Free test doesn’t always go up, sometimes the shbg gets fucked, also some people have much worse aromatization genetics

Tbh I strongly doubt the nocebo theory, you can’t trick yourself into having puffy nipples or weird ass muscle spasms in your prostate, I started to notice “hard flaccid” right before I quit on oral

 

[Prøphet]

So you think I should take it for my 5 month cycle and than just hop off? I also ordered Cialis, mostly for pumps. Idc about libido and shit, I just don’t want to descend myself w it.

First off do you even have balding genetics? If you already have some hair loss yes it’s worth a shot otherwise tbh I would monitor or do low dose

 

[kranerman23123]

Tbh I strongly doubt the nocebo theory, you can’t trick yourself into having puffy nipples or weird ass muscle spasms in your prostate, I started to notice “hard flaccid” right before I quit on oral

Wtf are you talking about, you quite literally can, 2.8% of people developed gyno in the study I mentioned taking a placebo drug... The placebo from worrying about side effects had more affect over peoples gyno than the drug itself.

 

[ketamin]

First off do you even have balding genetics? If you already have some hair loss yes it’s worth a shot otherwise tbh I would monitor or do low dose

I don’t but I have genetically norwood 2. I don’t think it’s hairloss, but I have big temples (it’s running genetically in our family). My dad still has hair at 50, but my cousin is hairless at 18

 

[averagenormie]

Good thing my penis is fully grown

It's not only about that it's about the functionality of it, testosterone can be enough for some people but there's people who need dht to function

 

[Prøphet]

Wtf are you talking about, you quite literally can, 2.8% of people developed gyno in the study I mentioned taking a placebo drug... The placebo from worrying about side effects had more affect over peoples gyno than the drug itself.

Was it self reported or measured by a physician?

 

[averagenormie]

Even 0.2mg blocks almost as much DHT as 5mg so the dose doesn’t really matter it’s logarithmic

I knew ed could be a side effect and depression but I had no idea that gyno was and I still got it

Actually I knew all about the nocebo effect and my sex drive went up a lot in the first couple weeks, then my dick literally died

Free test doesn’t always go up, sometimes the shbg gets fucked, also some people have much worse aromatization genetics

Tbh I strongly doubt the nocebo theory, you can’t trick yourself into having puffy nipples or weird ass muscle spasms in your prostate, I started to notice “hard flaccid” right before I quit on oral

I strongly agree

 

[kranerman23123]

It's not only about that it's about the functionality of it, testosterone can be enough for some people but there's people who need dht to function

Whatever biomechanical reasoning you have sounds great and all, but in practice only 1% of people experience any kind of ed related side effect on the drug.

 

[Prøphet]

I don’t but I have genetically norwood 2. I don’t think it’s hairloss, but I have big temples (it’s running genetically in our family). My dad still has hair at 50, but my cousin is hairless at 18

I mean hair is life losing it is one of 3 worst things that can happen to you as a man I would at least try it

Or try how I’m doing it, make a low dose topical

 

[Prøphet]

I don’t but I have genetically norwood 2. I don’t think it’s hairloss, but I have big temples (it’s running genetically in our family). My dad still has hair at 50, but my cousin is hairless at 18

Just don’t let even a molecule of it touch your dick

 

[averagenormie]

Whatever biomechanical reasoning you have sounds great and all, but in practice only 1% of people experience any kind of ed related side effect on the drug.

Ig I fall within the 1%

 

[ketamin]

Just don’t let even a molecule of it touch your dick

Bet. I fucking ordered 2.5mg tabs so ig I will take like half of them daily.

 

[kranerman23123]

Was it self reported or measured by a physician?

It was measured. Also keep in mind this was a study done on 55 year olds, so i would imagine that makes the chances even higher

 

[kranerman23123]

Ig I fall within the 1%

Its possible. It could also be possible that you fall within the 0.7% that experienced those effects on the placebo drug. Maybe not, obviously the sides do exist in some people and its unfortunate. Its just that usually they exist in people with very poor hormone levels or old people, it seems so unlikely that a young man in his prime would get those sides. If you do im sorry though.

 

[Prøphet]

It was measured. Also keep in mind this was a study done on 55 year olds, so i would imagine that makes the chances even higher

Well, maybe it was pre existing, idk. I have no proof for this so it’s not an objective argument but I strongly suspect the side effect rate is closer to 10-20%, just underreported in studies and over reported in the mainstream, like ssri’s. It radically changes your hormonal balance, and I think it has such a controversial reputation for a reason. Even talking about it with people irl, yes there’s a bias and it’s not a random sample but I really doubt it’s 2%

 

[averagenormie]

Its possible. It could also be possible that you fall within the 0.7% that experienced those effects on the placebo drug. Maybe not, obviously the sides do exist in some people and its unfortunate. Its just that usually they exist in people with very poor hormone levels or old people, it seems so unlikely that a young man in his prime would get those sides. If you do im sorry though.

Unfortunately I'm in my prime and have this side effects even some people on reddit experience it even tho they're enhanced

 

[kranerman23123]

Well, maybe it was pre existing, idk. I have no proof for this so it’s not an objective argument but I strongly suspect the side effect rate is closer to 10-20%, just underreported in studies and over reported in the mainstream, like ssri’s. It radically changes your hormonal balance, and I think it has such a controversial reputation for a reason. Even talking about it with people irl, yes there’s a bias and it’s not a random sample but I really doubt it’s 2%

It has a controversial reputation because bald people get fomo and overexaggerate the side effects to cope about the fact they never took it because theyre bucket crabs. There are literally dozens of studies about this and absolutely none of them have sides anywhere near 10% let alone 20. People always try to do this cringey thing where they try and figure out the biomechanical effects of the hormone levels but that's such a fool's errand, there's long term studies on this drug with very healthy sample sizes, just go off those.

 

[kranerman23123]

Unfortunately I'm in my prime and have this side effects even some people on reddit experience it even tho they're enhanced

Tressless schizos