What if good genes theory is a cope

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I'm not sold on the theory that women select for good genes. First thing, universally good genes don't exist, good genes are good as the environment lets them be. Let's say that having dark skin is good to survive under hot climate, the same characteristic is bad in a very cold and rainy place.
Natural selection can suddenly change their criteria, women can't. Let's say a tribe of niggers has to migrate to the north because of reasons, and in northen areas they can't get as much sun as they used to, women still have the biological need to select for dark skin over paler one.
Even being tall has more disadvantages than being short (more food needed, being a bigger target, more stress on the organs and so on) but women still select for those traits. Why? Some could argue that is due to the "handicap principle" theory that states that women select men who show signs of handicaps because it shows that they are unfit but they can survive, so they must be really fit (think about the peacock tail)
This is utter nonsense, that would equate to say that being short, being obese or being a freaky muscular bodybuilder should be attractive because it shows that you can survive despite having an handicap.
I think that letting women decide the fate of humanity is a cope for those reasons.
1) women could be attracted to the winners of infraspecies competition who took them as a prize and rape them. The ones who didn't submit were killed. You can't make your species evolve if suddenly you remove infraspecies competition (this happened when society was created)
2) women could be attracted to the men they like due to result of random mutations, meaning that if out of 100 men only 10 survived they would choose the one who has the most similar characteristics to their taste

Don't come at me with the studies showing that simmetrical faces are more healthy than asimmetrical faces for example, those studies use extreme examples (on both ends) and are not realiable, it's like saying that being 6ft5 is better than being 3ft therefore the taller you are the better, which is false.
 
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Looks theory would be rendered useless if men could actually behave like men in this era.
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Looks theory would be rendered useless if men could actually behave like men in this era.
In the West where it is the most Lookist and feminine/Estrogenic men aren't men. It is direct correlation
 
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cope. thats the estrogen talking
It's true to a degree but thinking there was a time where looks didn't matter is pure delusion. If you're incel now you wouldn't have a good life back then either
 
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two nordic prettyboys and two swedish stacies I don't see the problem
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Even being tall has more disadvantages than being short (more food needed, being a bigger target, more stress on the organs and so on)
I'd prefer being a lion over a cat
 
I'd prefer being a lion over a cat
Imagine preferring living in the jungle, worrying about food, worrying about other males ecc over living in the comfort of a human home, cuddled and never have to worry about anything.
 
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Imagine preferring living in the jungle, worrying about food, worrying about other males ecc over living in the comfort of a human home, cuddled and never have to worry about anything.
So your vision is to be a little cute pathetic thing who live comfortably over some hardships but ultimately being the fucking king.
not everyone has what it's called the ''power process'' I guess, that's ok too if it's satisfy you.
 
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Tall height make it easier with protection and less heat loss. And most humans today have a high fitness. So you might be right you dont need so called "good genes" to survive
 
Why alexander and julius fought many wars and took huge risks in battle fighting low iq celtic and german baboons instead of sitting at home. one died probably from poisoning and the other being murdered at the forum, over for their existence. somehow i think most people would agree that it's better to be Alex or Caesar over some random 'who' who sat at home all day and died comfortably after 80 years.
 
So your vision is to be a little cute pathetic thing who live comfortably over some hardships but ultimately being the fucking king.
not everyone has what it's called the ''power process'' I guess, that's ok too if it's satisfy you.
It's not my vision, is nature's vision, being extremely dimorphic is not the only good strategy.

Tall height make it easier with protection and less heat loss. And most humans today have a high fitness. So you might be right you dont need so called "good genes" to survive
Tall height makes you a bigger target too, easier to be seen and hit, less heat loss is situational, could be a good thing or a bad thing based on the environment.
 
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Why alexander and julius fought many wars and took huge risks in battle fighting low iq celtic and german baboons instead of sitting at home. one died probably from poisoning and the other being murdered at the forum, over for their existence. somehow i think most people would agree that it's better to be Alex or Caesar over some random 'who' who sat at home all day and died comfortably after 80 years.
I would prefer being Rocco Siffredi over being Alexander. Their life sounds cool on paper but living it it's different.
 
It's not my vision, is nature's vision, being extremely dimorphic is not the only good strategy.
I get it. i also like this thread don't get me wrong, interesting thread. what's your height if i may ask?
 
It's not my vision, is nature's vision, being extremely dimorphic is not the only good strategy.
reminds me of the emperor augustus who was a manlet and weak but handsome, smart and cunning and let his friend Agrippa led all his wars and took the credit for himself, murdered every 'dimorphic' danger with wanted lists (chads kill chads) and arguably pretended to be sick before battles, and unlike alex and caesar who were X10 more daring and manly, he lived till the end after 40 years of full empire control.
how you called it, nature way..

just a story time
 
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Looks theory would be rendered useless if men could actually behave like men in this era.
Just be more manly bro hurr durr me bald and muscles men peak at 40
 
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Really good thread OP, couldn't be bothered to read it myself but it sucks that only retards are arguing about anime avis or some gay shit when you put in all this effort
 
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Really good thread OP, couldn't be bothered to read it myself but it sucks that only retards are arguing about anime avis or some gay shit when you put in all this effort
Really good thread
dn read

somehow i prefer the avi kids
 
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Yeah it's true, too bad most people are just shit posting, there are a myriad of factors that go into sexual selection, good gene hypothesis is very narrowminded, I think it's generally a mix of good gene hypothesis and fischer runaway hypothesis, especially when female choice has more precedence and Intrasexual competition among males is minimized
 
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Yeah it's true, too bad most people are just shit posting, there are a myriad of factors that go into sexual selection, good gene hypothesis is very narrowminded, I think it's generally a mix of good gene hypothesis and fischer runaway hypothesis, especially when female choice has more precedence and Intrasexual competition among males is minimized
Other than that i think that men used to shape women's preferences by killing the not docile ones and procreating with the docile ones, so it was a double type of selection, women by reflex would have to be at least somewhat attracted to those men otherwise they were dead.
 
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Natural selection can suddenly change their criteria, women can't. Let's say a tribe of niggers has to migrate to the north because of reasons, and in northen areas they can't get as much sun as they used to, women still have the biological need to select for dark skin over paler one.
the niggers that can't get enough vitamin d will be more sickly, weaker, smaller and less healthy overall which means the lighter chad will mog them even if the females had a darker preference initially. female preference usually follows a strong adaptation, if not we're talking about a fisherian runaway which is a combination of males being powerless to enforce their right to breed due to inability to rape (in nature, being incapable of holding down or catching the female (birds); in humans, enforced by society) and a female preference that got way too ingrained and is now difficult to shed.

for example the female preference for thugs is a really subhuman trait and more genetically sophisticated 'high class' women respond to it much less but being a thug might've been more advantageous in the past (thugs are playing a dangerous game, if a thug is alive he must be winning). then again females that were about to be raped would do well to submit to the strongest male 'alpha'. thugmaxxing probably evokes some sort of primal feeling in them that can no longer be authentically triggered (coming in with the boys screaming and murdering everybody and torching the village). if you can exercise some sort of authority over a foid you're probably winning
Even being tall has more disadvantages than being short (more food needed, being a bigger target, more stress on the organs and so on) but women still select for those traits.
with height, sure there are disadvantages but being tall shows that you can cope with the increased food intake required and you will generally have higher fighting success than a manlet. of course height is artificially inflated in value in 2021 since nobody carries any weapons and they are mostly banned so manlets really have no way of defending themselves while carrying weapons was an integral part of being a human since a ~million years or so

anyway the real issue in 2021 is how utterly unhealthy 99.9% of the population is (and you can't adapt to goyslop for example that changes its composition every 3 months. the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race)
 
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the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race)
Life was pure shit pre industrial revolution for anyone besides royalty and high status. Jesus Christ this is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on this forum wtf.


In the west all you have to do to make money and live a comfortable life is lift one or two fingers lol. In western Europe you don't even need to do that lol they are Paying out big NEETbucks. Plus ascending and getting a gf isn't really that hard unless you are truecel
 
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Legit tbh, when it comes to human evolution there is close to 0 evidence for any of those hypothesis
we simply DONT KNOW why women prefer tall men n shit, we DONT KNOW, there is NO EVIDENCE that being gigatall is genetically better.
 
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the niggers that can't get enough vitamin d will be more sickly, weaker, smaller and less healthy overall which means the lighter chad will mog them even if the females had a darker preference initially. female preference usually follows a strong adaptation, if not we're talking about a fisherian runaway which is a combination of males being powerless to enforce their right to breed due to inability to rape (in nature, being incapable of holding down or catching the female (birds); in humans, enforced by society) and a female preference that got way too ingrained and is now difficult to shed.

for example the female preference for thugs is a really subhuman trait and more genetically sophisticated 'high class' women respond to it much less but being a thug might've been more advantageous in the past (thugs are playing a dangerous game, if a thug is alive he must be winning). then again females that were about to be raped would do well to submit to the strongest male 'alpha'. thugmaxxing probably evokes some sort of primal feeling in them that can no longer be authentically triggered (coming in with the boys screaming and murdering everybody and torching the village). if you can exercise some sort of authority over a foid you're probably winning

with height, sure there are disadvantages but being tall shows that you can cope with the increased food intake required and you will generally have higher fighting success than a manlet. of course height is artificially inflated in value in 2021 since nobody carries any weapons and they are mostly banned so manlets really have no way of defending themselves while carrying weapons was an integral part of being a human since a ~million years or so

anyway the real issue in 2021 is how utterly unhealthy 99.9% of the population is (and you can't adapt to goyslop for example that changes its composition every 3 months. the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race)
Following your example of height, women should be attracted to bodybuilders because it shows they can cope with the fact that they are super muscular without dying and they have bigger fighting success than your average guy, however girls are repulsed by bodybuilders. That's why I say that foids selection doesnt work in tandem with natural selection.
 
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Legit tbh, when it comes to human evolution there is close to 0 evidence for any of those hypothesis
we simply DONT KNOW why women prefer tall men n shit, we DONT KNOW, there is NO EVIDENCE that being gigatall is genetically better.
It's all hypothesis, I don't believe it because a lot of traits could signal something good or bad. Like if you have hair on your back it can signal you have high DHT that means high dimorphism, find me a girl that finds back hair attractive tho.
 
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It's all hypothesis, I don't believe it because a lot of traits could signal something good or bad. Like if you have hair on your back it can signal you have high DHT that means high dimorphism, find me a girl that finds back hair attractive tho.
you are right
most evolutionary/evopysch explanations are just hypothesis with 0 evidence to rely on
we just dont know
 
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I'm not sure about the rest but height has an evolutionary advantage
Bigger = stronger , able to protect
Even if they get detected by a 5'2 manlet , he cant do shit to them
More stress on organs is legit but having greater body mass , even if its muscles , puts the cardiovascular system into extra stress than before
Eveb in all the animals the biggest and strongest mate gets to reproduce the most
In males
Size = Dimorphic = attractive
 
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I'm not sure about the rest but height has an evolutionary advantage
Bigger = stronger , able to protect
Even if they get detected by a 5'2 manlet , he cant do shit to them
More stress on organs is legit but having greater body mass , even if its muscles , puts the cardiovascular system into extra stress than before
In males
Size = Dimorphic = attractive
Even being taller puts extra stress on joints, easier to break bones ecc..
There is a reason we only became that tall just now.
 
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Even being taller puts extra stress on joints, easier to break bones ecc..
There is a reason we only became that tall just now.
So you're saying being a manlet is evolutionary more beneficial?
 
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So you're saying being a manlet is evolutionary more beneficial?
Basically yes, take tallcells and manlets, put them in the wild and see what happens. If tallcells don't starve they would look skeletrical and weak due to low nutrition, they would need way more calories than their manlet equivalent to function, that means more time to hunt, more risks, less time to do other things. Manlets would spend for example 4 hours hunting a day, tallcells would spend 6 or 7 just for the same results. If there is some kind of food scarcity tallfags would be the first to die too.
 
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Life was pure shit pre industrial revolution for anyone besides royalty and high status. Jesus Christ this is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on this forum wtf.


In the west all you have to do to make money and live a comfortable life is lift one or two fingers lol. In western Europe you don't even need to do that lol they are Paying out big NEETbucks. Plus ascending and getting a gf isn't really that hard unless you are truecel
greycel tales
Following your example of height, women should be attracted to bodybuilders because it shows they can cope with the fact that they are super muscular without dying and they have bigger fighting success than your average guy, however girls are repulsed by bodybuilders. That's why I say that foids selection doesnt work in tandem with natural selection.
idk what you mean foids like muscle. if the guy looks fucked up due to roids it's a different story obviously
 
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greycel tales

idk what you mean foids like muscle. if the guy looks fucked up due to roids it's a different story obviously
Doesn't make sense, for women the more the better when it's about dimorphism, they like huge 10 inches cocks, they like 6ft6 men but they don't like Ronnie Coleman type of body. How the guy looks fucked up? You said that the fact that the guy has certain features means that he can survive with them, why this doesn't apply with huge muscles mass then?
Women will always choose this
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Over this
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Despite the second being way more dimorphic.
 
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Doesn't make sense, for women the more the better when it's about dimorphism, they like huge 10 inches cocks, they like 6ft6 men but they don't like Ronnie Coleman type of body. How the guy looks fucked up? You said that the fact that the guy has certain features means that he can survive with them, why this doesn't apply with huge muscles mass then?
Women will always choose this
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Despite the second being way more dimorphic.
I'd assume the same reason you probably prefer the one on the left to the right
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though the guy you posted would benefit greatly from additional shoulder width
 
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can’t be bothered to read ngl but just lol @ thinking good genes is cope
 
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can’t be bothered to read ngl but just lol @ thinking good genes is cope
What could've I expect from someone with Young Thug avi called "Thickdickdaddy" in an only men site?
 
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The physical advantages of being tall outweigh the disadvantages. Being taller increases fighting success significantly due to longer reach (limb length) and a harder to reach head. In many fighting sports, weight classes have to be used to separate unfair height discrepancies.

As far as facial features, the face reflects an individual's inbreeding index (how genetically diverse they are; heterozygosity). General health, breathing success, robust bones for combat (strong brow ridge and zygos, for example), age-related fertility, etc. are all examples of phenotypic observations from the face.

Females across many species select the best possible sperm (genetic material) for reproductive sex. Humans are no exception.
 
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