What is difference between HTN and Chadlite?

[SwedishMeatball]

So Chads are legendary hot models
Mid tier normies are average Joe.

How abt Chadlite and HTN? At what point, you are considered as hot by most people?

 

[randomuser2407]

1-3/10 - Incel

4/10 - Low tier normie
5/10 - Mid tier normie
6/10 - High tier normie
7/10 - Chadlite
8/10 - Chad
9/10 - GigaChad

 

[Prettyboy]

The biggest differentiator between HTNs and chad(lites) are hard features. While you can be above average with good hair or skin, you need bones to be a true mogger

 

[Mastermind]

1-7/10 - Incel
8/10 - Low tier normie
9/10 - Medium tier normie

 

[geezcel]

The biggest differentiator between HTNs and chad(lites) are hard features. While you can be above average with good hair or skin, you need bones to be a true mogger

 

[SwedishMeatball]

1-3/10 - Incel

4/10 - Low tier normie
5/10 - Mid tier normie
6/10 - High tier normie
7/10 - Chadlite
8/10 - Chad
9/10 - GigaChad

Incel wikia says 7/10 is HTN, 8/10 is Chadlite

High-tier normie

A high-tier normie is a 6 on the decile scale.

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Chadlite

A chadlite or "low tier Chad" is a "7" on the decile scale. He is one decile above the high-tier normie. Chadlites are often the bare minimum a Becky accepts as...

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[Bvnny.]

You have bones, fakecel

 

[LightSkinNoob]

I think it’s to do with harmony, lots of guys with “Hunter eyes” and strong jaws many lack Harmony tho

 

[SwedishMeatball]

I think it’s to do with harmony, lots of guys with “Hunter eyes” and strong jaws many lack Harmony tho

But what are their daily life experience differ?

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Incel wikia says 7/10 is HTN, 8/10 is Chadlite

High-tier normie

A high-tier normie is a 6 on the decile scale.

incels.wiki

Chadlite

A chadlite or "low tier Chad" is a "7" on the decile scale. He is one decile above the high-tier normie. Chadlites are often the bare minimum a Becky accepts as...

incels.wiki

There is no one objective scale in the black pill community. There are multiple ones people use. I personally use the r/truerateme scale. I personally think all this rating shit is stupid anyway. Everyone should looksmax to the best of their ability based on objective facts of attraction. And either a woman likes you or she doesnt. If she doesn't, move on to someone who does. If you're rated a 7/10 by mult people but if a woman doesn't like you (maybe you aren't her type or whatever), she's not gonna change her mind and drop her panties because you say "oh but I've been rated a 7/10 so why not " jfl. Not everyone will be attracted to everyone. Even chads can get denied.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

There is no one objective scale in the black pill community. There are multiple ones people use. I personally use the r/truerateme scale.

Trm seems legit but they claim 7/10 is only %2 jfl

Some says even 5.5/10 on TRM is HTN/HTB but I dont agree.

 

[geezcel]

You have bones, fakecel

it’s never enough, I need so much more bone

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Trm seems legit but they claim 7/10 is only %2 jfl

Some says even 5.5/10 on TRM is HTN/HTB but I dont agree.

A 7/10 is chadlite tier and I'd say it's fairly accurate. It's rare to see truly goodlooking men in public. Most people I come across in public fall between a 4-6/10. But I've updated my comment as a response to scales.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

There is no one objective scale in the black pill community. There are multiple ones people use. I personally use the r/truerateme scale. I personally think all this rating shit is stupid anyway. Everyone should looksmax to the best of their ability based on objective facts of attraction. And either a woman likes you or she doesnt. Of she doesn't, move on to someone who does. If you're rated a 7/10 by mult people but if a woman doesn't like you (maybe you aren't her type or whatever), she's not gonna change her mind and drop her panties because you say "oh but I've been rated a 7/10 so why not " jfl. Not everyone will be attracted to everyone. Even chads can get denied.

Yeah personal preferences do exist, but I think most men would prefer Adriana Lima to some fat nerdy 4/10. By most, I mean %90
Looksmaxxing is for increasing the probablity of someone be attrached to you or not. The closer to Chad you are, the lesser chance a girl will deny you.

 

[the BULL]

You have a Maher tier chin

 

[SwedishMeatball]

A 7/10 is chadlite tier and I'd say it's fairly accurate. It's rare to see truly goodlooking men in public. Most people I come across in public fall between a 4-6/10. But I've updated my comment as a response to scales.

7/10 is instagram model tier. Isnt it should be Chad/Stacy tier while 6.5/10 (Hot, but not insta model tier) should be Chadlite/Stacylite?

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Yeah personal preferences do exist, but I think most men would prefer Adriana Lima to some fat nerdy 4/10. By most, I mean %90
Looksmaxxing is for increasing the probablity of someone be attrached to you or not. The closer to Chad you are, the lesser chance a girl will deny you.

What you're saying is common sense. But what people desire isn't what people can get. Most men will settle on pretty much any cute girl they can attract, even if she's a normie lol.. and the average man is a normie settling with another normie. I personally think full-on looksmaxxing is best for dudes who want to either slay or look "good" when they're older. If you're trying to attract a long term partner, it's best to just moneymaxx, mentalhealthmaxx (NT-pill), and just do basic shit like eating healthy and having obvious grooming habits.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

7/10 is instagram model tier. Isnt it should be Chad/Stacy tier while 6.5/10 (Hot, but not insta model tier) should be Chadlite/Stacylite?

Like I said, I go based on the r/truerateme scale. A 6.5-7 is a chadlite based on that scale. It's not a singular point. Going back to my other point , scales are pointless anyway...

 

[SwedishMeatball]

What you're saying is common sense. But what people desire isn't what people can get. Most men will settle on pretty much any cute girl they can attract, even if she's a normie lol.. and the average man is a normie settling with another normie. I personally think full-on looksmaxxing is best for dudes who want to either slay or look "good" when they're older. If you're trying to attract a long term partner, it's best to just moneymaxx, mentalhealthmaxx (NT-pill), and just do basic shit like eating healthy and having obvious grooming habits.

But they wont be happy imo. Its the reason fish sex. You know, most married guys are subs on OnlyFans? Its just because they are settling with their average girl even though he is not happy with that.
Some MGTOW tho, reject to settle their looksmatch.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Like I said, I go based on the r/truerateme scale. A 6.5-7 is a chadlite based on that scale. It's not a singular point. Going back to my other point , scales are pointless anyway...

It says 6.0/6.5's are top %22 and top %6. Is it considered Chadlite or HTN?

 

[StrangerDanger]

HTNs are the good looking end on the normie spectrum but arent anything special while chadlites are more impressive and stand out more so you will be somewhat aware of their good looks

 

[SwedishMeatball]

HTNs are the good looking end on the normie spectrum but arent anything special while chadlites are more impressive and stand out more so you will be somewhat aware of their good looks

So Htn and htb are not good looking but just average people?

 

[StrangerDanger]

So Htn and htb are not good looking but just average people?

no they are a bit better looking but not enough to stand out

 

[SwedishMeatball]

no they are a bit better looking but not enough to stand out

Eh, you are either hot or average, so they belong in average. According to your description

 

[StrangerDanger]

Eh, you are either hot or average, so they belong in average. According to your description

Well they arent just average since they have advantage over them but in the grand scheme of things you could say that

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Well they arent just average since they have advantage over them but in the grand scheme of things you could say that

Most people dont see the diff between LTN or MTB or any Psl tier difference. You are either: hot or good looking. Average, aka invisible. Ugly; visible but in a bad way.
IMO, top %20 of people seen as good looking on average. I dont know HTB/HTN belongs that or not.

 

[StrangerDanger]

Most people dont see the diff between LTN or MTB or any Psl tier difference. You are either: hot or good looking. Average, aka invisible. Ugly; visible but in a bad way.
IMO, top %20 of people seen as good looking on average. I dont know HTB/HTN belongs that or not.

HTB

LTB

 

[SwedishMeatball]

HTB
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Whats up with stacylite?

 

[StrangerDanger]

Whats up with stacylite?

 

[TheAnomaly]

I think it’s easier to think of three categories.
Unattractive
Average
Attractive.

Most people know which tier they fall in to.

 

[one job away]

Htn is your everyday wage slave. He waits for his 9-5 job to be over to come to his 40 year old wife and 5 children from other fathers. On the way back home he gets spit on by woman and ppl throw trash in his direction. He has to beg his boss everyday in his knees for the leftovers of his plate cuz he can’t afford meals



Meanwhile chadlite has girls simping for him. He doesn’t need a job. He doesn’t need to pay for an appartment cuz he sleeps at a different girls place every night. He doesn’t need to pay for dinner cuz stacys cook for him. He doesn’t need to buy clothes cuz model brands gift him their fashion. Chadlite is the Lion King under humanity.

 

[Br0sk1]

A morph done of me versus my regular face illustrates the difference, I think:

Morph is a Chadlite, the real me (left) is not.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

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Imo the second girl you posted is close to her. I dont get the diff

 

[SwedishMeatball]

I think it’s easier to think of three categories.
Unattractive
Average
Attractive.

Most people know which tier they fall in to.

So htn belongs second or third?

 

[TheAnomaly]

HTN, like LTN probably straddles. But I think HTN would tend towards attractive. .

 

[SwedishMeatball]

HTN, like LTN probably straddles. But I think HTN would tend towards attractive. .

Depends on what is called normie specturum.
Most people are average at the end of day. Aka, not stand out as either attractive nor unattractive.
Is HTN belons to that section or ita just most people are MTN actually?

 

[TheAnomaly]

Depends on what is called normie specturum.
Most people are average at the end of day. Aka, not stand out as either attractive nor unattractive.
Is HTN belons to that section or ita just most people are MTN actually?

Maybe HTN, CL.. are too granular.
Hence Swipe Apps. Girls decide: doable/not doable.

My ratings of women:
0 no interest
1 I would consider if she approached
2 if she was nearby, I would approach
3 I’d walk across the street/bar… to approach.

 

[forevergymcelling]

HTN is above average

Chadlite is a chad without bone mass (good soft features, harmony but not enough bone)

 

[SwedishMeatball]

HTN is above average

Chadlite is a chad without bone mass (good soft features, harmony but not enough bone)

Most normies tier people with 3 tier; ugly, average, hot
Is HTN belongs last or middle then?

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Maybe HTN, CL.. are too granular.
Hence Swipe Apps. Girls decide: doable/not doable.

My ratings of women:
0 no interest
1 I would consider if she approached
2 if she was nearby, I would approach
3 I’d walk across the street/bar… to approach.

Yeah, most people rate others with that system. I still dont get the HTN/Chadlite/Chad stuff

 

[TheAnomaly]

Yeah, most people rate others with that system. I still dont get the HTN/Chadlite/Chad stuff

There are Looksmax pro’s here way above my paygrade who could probably explain it.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

There are Looksmax pro’s here way above my paygrade who could probably explain it.

Yeah I would be glad

 

[forevergymcelling]

Most normies tier people with 3 tier; ugly, average, hot
Is HTN belongs last or middle then?

Upper end of average

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Upper end of average

But still on average, so not GL

 

[RazerGlazer]

Chadlite = good in every department
Chad = good in every department + a lot of bone mass

 

[M3R]

HTN is just an average "attractive" guy you meet on a daily basis, he will be liked by beckies and sometimes they will even be simping for him. While chadlite is borderline model, he will be obviously good looking and you won't meet a guy like that often.

I think that HTN begins at 5.5/10 facially if he's at least average in other aspects. Chadlite is at least 6.5/10 facially and he can afford being under average in some aspects.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

HTN is just an average "attractive" guy you meet on a daily basis, he will be liked by beckies and sometimes they will even be simping for him. While chadlite is borderline model, he will be obviously good looking and you won't meet a guy like that often.

I think that HTN begins at 5.5/10 facially if he's at least average in other aspects. Chadlite is at least 6.5/10 facially and he can afford being under average in some aspects.

I mean, with 5.5/10 you wont say that particular person is noticably more good looking than average. Its borderline average.

 

[forevergymcelling]

But still on average, so not GL

GL but not hot

Hot starts at chadlite

 

[SwedishMeatball]

GL but not hot

Hot starts at chadlite

Hmm got it.
So then, htn belongs to average too

 

[forevergymcelling]

Hmm got it.
So then, htn belongs to average too

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