What is more immoral, the 30yo female teacher fucking the 14yo high school boy, or the 30yo male teacher banging the 14yo high school girl?

[Lolcel]

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[WTFCGod]

Neither

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Equally immoral if both teachers are ugly
But if attractive/average, more immoral if it's the 30 yo male teacher, cuz teenage boys are much higher testosterone and more sex drive
He could easily overpower the teacher in bed

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Equally immoral if both teachers are ugly
But if attractive/average, more immoral if it's the 30 yo male teacher, cuz teenage boys are much higher testosterone and more sex drive
He could easily overpower the teacher in bed

wait, equal actions are now immoral if you are ugly?

and what does potential ability to overpower someone in bed have to do with morality?

also wouldn't the girl be further along in puberty?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

He could easily overpower the teacher in bed

Yeah an 11 year old can say no n all of that but doesn't have the resources, strength, etc to avoid a rape.

you bring up "potential" of rape as some moral argument, even if the rape doesnt occur. that is literally retard iq

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

wait, equal actions are now immoral if you are ugly?

Yeah, who wants to fuck an ugly woman lol, most teenagers would clearly want to fuck hot teachers (I know I did) and even average 30 yo teachers wouldn't look too bad

and what does potential ability to overpower someone in bed have to do with morality?

Men stronger than women.14 year old males are physically stronger than 30 year old females. A 14 year old girl would never be able to overpower a 30 year old man, the balance of physical power should be considered in moral situations (example is very clear for say a fight, is it more moral to force a 5' skinny dude fight a 6'3 buff guy, or a 5'10 fairly muscular dude fight that 6'3 guy?)

also wouldn't the girl be further along in puberty

Doesn't matter, guys are higher sex drive and higher strength

Also, is this situation consensual on both ends? If so it adds a lot more depth to this

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Yeah, who wants to fuck an ugly woman lol, most teenagers would clearly want to fuck hot teachers (I know I did) and even average 30 yo teachers wouldn't look too bad

Also, is this situation consensual on both ends?

yes, its consensual. thats the point. so the ugliness factor should be neglected since its consensual

Doesn't matter, guys are higher sex drive and higher strength

what does this matter?

Men stronger than women.14 year old males are physically stronger than 30 year old females. A 14 year old girl would never be able to overpower a 30 year old man, the balance of physical power should be considered in moral situations (example is very clear for say a fight, is it more moral to force a 5' skinny dude fight a 6'3 buff guy, or a 5'10 fairly muscular dude fight that 6'3 guy?)

you're comparing a fight to consensual sex, stupid as shit

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Judging it logically it's clearly on the same level yet something tells me the 30 year old guy doing it is worse

is it though? the 14 year old girl is closer to finishing puberty if she has not finished already

 

[isis_Bleach]

why do you like arguing about this

 

[Deleted member 4612]

why do you like arguing about this

its entertaining and its blackpilled.

it also shines a light on how so many "blackpillers" have a mindset that is brainwashed

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

yes, its consensual. thats the point.

Oh ok then that changes things a lot, wording it like "teacher fucks student" without that added info made me question. I would still say that it's only slightly more immoral for 30 yr old male to fuck 14 yr old. Reason is cuz a 14 yr old male is stronger, higher sex drive, etc than a 30 year old woman, and males are much more evolved to deal in serious situations, even if a 14 yr old girl is more developed than 14 year old male. Men prefer younger girls and girls prefer older men because of our much higher strength and survivalistic capabilities.

you're comparing a fight to consensual sex, stupid as shit

It's to compare physicality because sex is a physical action.

 

[( ( ( d[-_-]b ) ) )]

consensual?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

If you could change this question to a rape hypothetical, that would be really interesting.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Oh ok then that changes things a lot, wording it like "teacher fucks student" without that added info made me question. I would still say that it's only slightly more immoral for 30 yr old male to fuck 14 yr old. Reason is cuz a 14 yr old male is stronger, higher sex drive, etc than a 30 year old woman, and males are much more evolved to deal in serious situations, even if a 14 yr old girl is more developed than 14 year old male. Men prefer younger girls and girls prefer older men because of our much higher strength and survivalistic capabilities.

well since men prefer younger girls and girls prefer older men, wouldnt that make the male teacher going for female less immoral since she is getting her preference? meanwhile the male student is not getting his preference of younger women

consensual?

yes

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

ell since men prefer younger girls and girls prefer older men, wouldnt that make the male teacher going for female less immoral since she is getting her preference? meanwhile the male student is not getting his preference of younger women

Well they both are consensual hypotheticals, so technically they are getting what they desire. I think the closer physical egalitarianism between the 30 yo woman and 14 yo dude is what makes it more moral

 

[( ( ( d[-_-]b ) ) )]

well since men prefer younger girls and girls prefer older men, wouldnt that make the male teacher going for female less immoral since she is getting her preference? meanwhile the male student is not getting his preference of younger women

yes

Honestly if a 14 year old jb is “consenually “,, with a 30 year old, then the dude must be chad as fuck. For example, that one video of the jb kissing the chad at a soccer game. Does that make it for moral than the other option, I’m not sure. Just a thought though

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Well they both are consensual hypotheticals, so technically they are getting what they desire. I think the closer physical egalitarianism between the 30 yo woman and 14 yo dude is what makes it more moral

why though? because if it hypothetically turned to rape the young boy could fight it off?

i mean you have to factor out hypothetical rape if the sex is indeed consensual

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

why though? because if it hypothetically turned to rape the young boy could fight it off?

i mean you have to factor out hypothetical rape if the sex is indeed consensual

No, just by itself. Also because of that, and also because of dudes being way hornier than girls, I could see the dude enjoying it a lot more lol

 

[Deleted member 4612]

No, just by itself. Also because of that, and also because of dudes being way hornier than girls, I could see the dude enjoying it a lot more lol

women enjoy sex more than men, and also because the girl is getting her preference (older man) and the dude is not (older women), i would think the 14yo girl would enjoy it more

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

women enjoy sex more than men

Really? I didn't know that tbh

and also because the girl is getting her preference (older man) and the dude is not (older women), i would think the 14yo girl would enjoy it more

Hm probably. But I wonder if the much higher sex drive of men makes up for enjoying sex less. Actually do women really enjoy sex more? Are you just basing that off of their orgasms?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Really? I didn't know that tbh

actually it depends on situation. truth be told sometimes women dont orgasm, and the man does. in that case i think the man would enjoy the sex more

however women have the higher potential in terms of peak sex.

Hm probably. But I wonder if the much higher sex drive of men makes up for enjoying sex less

tough to say tbh

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

actually it depends on situation. truth be told sometimes women dont orgasm, and the man does. in that case i think the man would enjoy the sex more

however women have the higher potential in terms of peak sex.

Yeah that's another important piece of the situation. If assuming this is like average sex difference, then the boy would enjoy the sex more than the girl. So overall, the boy would be stronger than the woman, and also enjoy the sex more than the 14 yr old girl. Because of the closer physical stats in the boy situation, and also him enjoying it more, I would consider it more moral.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

however women have the higher potential in terms of peak sex.

In this case, the girl would have the best orgasm. But, the teacher would have to be exceptionally attractive and good at sex to compensate for the lower sex drive and higher standards of the girl compared to boy. But then, it would only be fair to make the female teacher the same looks level and sex skill. Just imagine you at 14 with a sexy as fuck teacher who could fuck good, your sex drive would go thru the fuarking roof. Also note female orgasms are hard to recover from, so I could imagine the boy in this situation cooming a fuck ton of times. I mean for a 30 year old guy to make a girl orgasm, and keep in mind yes young girls do like older men but not that much older than them (hence pretty boys being a thing) he would have to be at least like an 8.5/10. An 8.5/10 female teacher fucking a boy is like the best sex imaginable for him and the type to tell his friends all about it. Brings me onto another point, the boy could brag about it but not the girl, bc you know how taboo old guy and young girl is

 

[Deleted member 4612]

most of what you said was right but

Brings me onto another point, the boy could brag about it but not the girl, bc you know how taboo old guy and young girl is

girls do brag about fucking older dudes jfl. i suppose if she wanted to date the teacher long term she couldn't do it

 

[Deleted member 2403]

I have nothing to say

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I have nothing to say

 

[Deleted member 4612]

@john2 thoughts?

and yes, I know fornication is immoral in all cases. but which is worse in the two scenarios I described?

 

[Selfahate]

There is absolutely nothing immortal about a 14 year old boy fukking his teacher I would've love it iand so would most men there SJWs are making victems out of men
Hell in Sparta a little boys had sex with women to become men

 

[Deleted member 4612]

There is absolutely nothing immortal about a 14 year old boy fukking his teacher I would've love it iand so would most men there SJWs are making victems out of men
Hell in Sparta a little boys had sex with women to become men

is there anything immoral about a grown man fucking a 14yo female girl?

 

[Selfahate]

is there anything immoral about a grown man fucking a 14yo female girl?

Yes because she is less likely to be attracted to him and he convinced manipulate her into it
Unlike the 14 year old boy

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Yes because she is less likely to be attracted to him and he convinced manipulate her into it
Unlike the 14 year old boy

all social interaction is manipulation

 

[Deleted member 5522]

Idk man

 

[Deleted member 3328]

It's the same but society would see 30yo male and 14yo girl as more immoral. They see women as more vulnerable.

 

[Deleted member 11705]

Neither.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It's the same but society would see 30yo male and 14yo girl as more immoral. They see women as more vulnerable.

i disagree, its worse if the woman does it, the young girl is further along in puberty, and the adult woman had more options as an adult woman so there is less reason for her to try and pursue a young boy

 

[Deleted member 3328]

i disagree, its worse if the woman does it, the young girl is further along in puberty, and the adult woman had more options as an adult woman so there is less reason for her to try and pursue a young boy

True, I see your point.

I often fantasized about some of my female teachers so I might be biased.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

True, I see your point.

I often fantasized about some of my female teachers so I might be biased.

young girls fantasize about their male teachers too, they just won't admit it

 

[john2]

@john2 thoughts?

and yes, I know fornication is immoral in all cases. but which is worse in the two scenarios I described?

Obviously the 30 yo female teacher.

But ngl, I'd love to get hit on by a milf teacher... but maybe not as early as 14 yo.

 

[john2]

Btw, a male 30 yo teacher marrying a 14 yo high school girl is the more sustainable and correct choice... because a 30 yo female teacher is quite infertile for her age, most likely will give birth to a deformed kid and is also likely to contract breast cancer herself. Take that, society.