What is required to completely fix downwards growth ?

[MaestheticMaso]

Even if it’s not yet possible

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

send example

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

Downside of tall height I guess. Maybe there is no escape?

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

What if you get jaw implants to make the downward growth less noticeable?

 

[Deleted member 32485]

Is it not just bimax CCW?

 

[temporomandibular32]

Depends on the type of downgrowth. If your lower maxilla and mandible are downgrown, BiMax CCW would remedy this as downgrowth is usually hand-in-hand with recession (you'd probably need midface implants as recession often correlates with low bone mass). If your upper maxilla/orbits and such are downgrown you'll need midface and orbital implants. A long midface resulted from downgrowth is impossible to fix without hard surgeries such as Lefort 2/3

 

[klimo]

It depends, for example one could have a short ramus and mistakenly label it as "downward growth". For that you would need fillers or implants. But if you maxilla is downgrown than i guess mewing or maybe even some variation of thumbpulling where your pushing up at the tip of your maxilla could help. Be careful though if you have a high palate and are downgrown at the same time. If your mandible is downgrowth than a ccw bimax is the only solution.

 

[Agendum]

See my threads on downgrowth

Loose Shelf theory of Downgrowth

Too much foreward growth of the face itself without the cranial bone support leads to downswinging. Imagine having a single shelf on the wall and the dry wall screws are getting bent from the weight on the "foreward grown" front end, this is your face without adequate "wall" support. Your poor...

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Facial drift theory

So something I realized about hairline recession is that the problem is more about skull shape and less about diffuse thinning. I want to coin a term of what I call Frontal-TempoParietal Drift. Its basically the frontal bone + the face that drifts away from a core of the skull (that doesnt...

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[lefort3cel]

Downward growth is generally irreparable. Long face syndrome is by far the worst craniofacial growth pattern to have. A good surgeon can impact the maxilla and rotate the mandible CCW, however, your ramus is downswung and your jawline will overall be shit. Furthermore, you are compressing soft tissue by reducing facial height. This gives you the chubby cheeks bloated look that usually cannot be fixed. Downward growth also means shit midface development, something that cannot be repaired aesthetically, even with implants it will have some degree of uncanniness.

In this case, SFS-cels have much much more potential. Their is usually not downward grown. This means their mandible has a near ideal gonial angle and great ramus length. Their midface also has acceptable growth, all that is missing is a downgraft and slight CW rotation of the maxilla as well as advancement of the mandible, giving a sharp jawline and stretching out soft tissue, giving a more rugged look to the face. This gives a well forward grown profile, something that is impossible with a downward grown jaw profile.

In other words, long face = over. short face = potential for ascension

 

[Manfrommars]

Downward growth is generally irreparable. Long face syndrome is by far the worst craniofacial growth pattern to have. A good surgeon can impact the maxilla and rotate the mandible CCW, however, your ramus is downswung and your jawline will overall be shit. Furthermore, you are compressing soft tissue by reducing facial height. This gives you the chubby cheeks bloated look that usually cannot be fixed. Downward growth also means shit midface development, something that cannot be repaired aesthetically, even with implants it will have some degree of uncanniness.

In this case, SFS-cels have much much more potential. Their is usually not downward grown. This means their mandible has a near ideal gonial angle and great ramus length. Their midface also has acceptable growth, all that is missing is a downgraft and slight CW rotation of the maxilla as well as advancement of the mandible, giving a sharp jawline and stretching out soft tissue, giving a more rugged look to the face. This gives a well forward grown profile, something that is impossible with a downward grown jaw profile.

In other words, long face = over. short face = potential for ascension

I believe with an insane amount of dedication it can be fixed, ccw lefort 1+ paranasal + forehead+ zygo/malar implants after zygo shaving to decrease a bloated look.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

@Gengar why is he banned

 

[Michael Myers]

@Gengar why is he banned

Requested.

 

[Lethbridge]

I feel like instead of trying the reverse the downward growth, one should just try and balance it with increasing facial width? That’s what most normie do I believe.