What is the bare minimum to be in the ‘top 20% of men’

Tom Brady is not top 0.2% he is top 0.00001%.

This is typical PSL delusion, you overestimate how hard it is to break into the the top 20% but completely underestimate how much chad mogs you. :lul:
Damn sorry I didn’t waste my time typing 6 zeros for u
 
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Love it when retards project their shit on me. I don’t even consider myself in the top 20%. I’m only 17 anyway. Fuck you faggot if u genuinely think 5.5 PSL is top 2%. Hit the gym and you’ll see plenty of face moggers in there. And you’ll tell me only 2% of the population goes to the gym?
Jfl id you think the average gym bro is 5.5 psl

This is what 5.5 psl looks like

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Also see vinnie Hacker, Steve Lacy, Keith powers
 
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The traits you have listed are all better than top 20% so combining them would give you easily a top 1% man.


Tom Brady is not top 0.2% he is top 0.00001%.

This is typical PSL delusion, you overestimate how hard it is to break into the the top 20% but completely underestimate how much chad mogs you. :lul:
What about this
I asked for an overall rating of my SMV and got a 6 or 7 when everything is taken into account.

What's the SMV of me?
 
I’m not lying when I say this, but there’s a tall brute at my gym with that exact face
A tall brute, yes, not half the fuckinh gym. 5.5 psl is top 2-5-% face. So you probsbly know a few ppl that good looking, but they are HEAD TURNERS. They not just common. Having a face like that alone puts you in top 20% unless you’re fat or bald or turbo Manlet or Indian

You said 5:5 psl dudes are everywhere. By definition they are not
 
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Im not including status or money because it complicates it

imo a top 20% man is at least:
5 PSL face (chadlite)
at least 6ft tall
gym body
6.5+ inch dick

That would mean he’s at minimum 8 SMV (If he’s better than 80% of other men)
HTN+ 6' height will put You in the top 20%, or a chadlite+5'8" height. A lean or a muscular body will halo You. Dick size is irelevant because your size isn't write in your forehead, lol, through women assume your size bybthe way You look.
 
A tall brute, yes, not half the fuckinh gym. 5.5 psl is top 2-5-% face. So you probsbly know a few ppl that good looking, but they are HEAD TURNERS. They not just common. Having a face like that alone puts you in top 20% unless you’re fat or bald or turbo Manlet or Indian

You said 5:5 psl dudes are everywhere. By definition they are not
Even HTNs are not very comun, like 1 in 10.
 
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What about this

What's the SMV of me?
6 or 7 sounds about right. If you are +5 PSL, you have potential to be high SMV. Just build a decent muscular lean frame and don’t neglect social media and OLD presence as those are te only way to meet people nowadays.
 
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Holy cope
Where tf do u live? No way 1 in 5 guys are chadlites and 6ft+. At my school and in general its like 1-2 htn per class with some variation and maybe 2-3 solid chadlites in the whole school. Idk if ur overrating them but htn by definition should be at least 1 in 10. If 1 in 5 are tall chadlites frm what ur saying then theres probably gigachads in every school (~1000 guys)
 
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Im not including status or money because it complicates it

imo a top 20% man is at least:
5 PSL face (chadlite)
at least 6ft tall
gym body
6.5+ inch dick

That would mean he’s at minimum 8 SMV (If he’s better than 80% of other men)
5psl is top 5% rarity - you are top 20% just by having it
6ft tall is top 15%
6,5 inch dick is top 20-30%

You are top 1% if you have everything you listed above. Slayer
 
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Where tf do u live? No way 1 in 5 guys are htn and 6ft+. At my school and in general its like 1-2 htn per class with some variation and maybe 2-3 solid chadlites in the whole school. Idk if ur overrating them but htn by definition should be at least 1 in 10. If a level like that was that common then womens expectations would be more like 6.5psl 6'4 wtf
I go to a private school, and in one of my classes which has like 12 boys, 7 (including me) are solid HTNs. But that’s not enough to be in the top 20%, because some are manlets, framelets, possible dicklets, etc. HTN face isn’t rare in my experience
 
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Im not including status or money because it complicates it

imo a top 20% man is at least:
5 PSL face (chadlite)
at least 6ft tall
gym body
6.5+ inch dick

That would mean he’s at minimum 8 SMV (If he’s better than 80% of other men)
Honestly taking into consideration my colleges that would be more like top 5 percent.
 
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Im not including status or money because it complicates it

imo a top 20% man is at least:
5 PSL face (chadlite)
at least 6ft tall
gym body
6.5+ inch dick

That would mean he’s at minimum 8 SMV (If he’s better than 80% of other men)
You left our money and status.

For status you need to have 2k minimum followers to be top but if you want girls to go WOW make yours 5k+.

For money minimum 60k for women to be Aight with you but you’ll need 80k+ to have money as a selling point for you to get bitches.

Everything else about looks is legit
 
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6 or 7 sounds about right. If you are +5 PSL, you have potential to be high SMV. Just build a decent muscular lean frame and don’t neglect social media and OLD presence as those are te only way to meet people nowadays.
I have 33 followers (private). I don't like social media to be honest.
 
In my college barely any of them tick off all those boxes.


I mean, the good looking guys in my college are usually 5'9. Hell even one is 5'7.


The 6'0 tall ones are average / ugly.

Some of the food looking ones are also ethnic.


I'd say if someone is 6 ft tall, white, htn, jacked with low bodyfat, they are in quite an advantageous position. Barely anyone in my college is all those.
 
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I go to a private school, and in one of my classes which has like 12 boys, 7 (including me) are solid HTNs. But that’s not enough to be in the top 20%, because some are manlets, framelets, possible dicklets, etc. HTN face isn’t rare in my experience
Id like to see what ur definition of htn is tbh, ik private schools tend to have better looking people but only by like 20% max from my experience. Even some guys who id say htn im not even sure i would rate them so highly. ost users here seem to have a completely different experience than u(not including pajeets). Id say im htn and girls put me in top 10 guys in my year. Either ur living in chad central or ur overrating them tbh. Not even 1 in 10 celebs are chadlite and 6ft+ so its fucking absurd u think 1 in 5 normies are.
 
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In my college barely any of them tick off all those boxes.


I mean, the good looking guys in my college are usually 5'9. Hell even one is 5'7.


The 6'0 tall ones are average / ugly.

Some of the food looking ones are also ethnic.


I'd say if someone is 6 ft tall, white, htn, jacked with low bodyfat, they are in quite an advantageous position. Barely anyone in my college is all those.
Aren’t u the white 6’2 guy?
 
6-7 cm over the average height of your area

(High) HTN face (5-5.5 psl)

At least a lean body with definition

A safe social circle with many aquaintances and at least 500 Instagram followers

Neurotypical
 
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Aren’t u the white 6’2 guy?
I'm 6'1 and I'm white. But I'm overweight with 22 percent bodyfat so I'd rather be a lean 5'9 guy myself.
 
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I'm 6'1 and I'm white. But I'm overweight with 22 percent bodyfat so I'd rather be a lean 5'9 guy myself.
I always struggle to understand fatcels. Just hit the gym and diet lmao. Take thyroid meds if u need to
 
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I always struggle to understand fatcels. Just hit the gym and diet lmao. Take thyroid meds if u need to

It's what I'm working on since last week.

God if I could trade 4 inches jus to be 12 percent bodyfat I'd fucking do it idc. Lean is fucking life.
 
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Im not including status or money because it complicates it

imo a top 20% man is at least:
5 PSL face (chadlite)
at least 6ft tall
gym body
6.5+ inch dick

That would mean he’s at minimum 8 SMV (If he’s better than 80% of other men)

I would say what you described is somewhere around top 1% men.
 
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Being white, above 6' and good face will easily place you in the top 20%.
 
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6-7 cm over the average height of your area

(High) HTN face (5-5.5 psl)

At least a lean body with definition

A safe social circle with many aquaintances and at least 500 Instagram followers

Neurotypical
Damn its crazy how stupid some users on here are. The SD for height in men is around 6-7cm already so to be 6-7cm above average is already higher than top 20%, not even factoring in your other requirements.
 
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COPE

not in a white country
Being above 6' is nearly top 20% alone for young white people - The average is 5'11 to 6' but you think it is higher because everyone wears Af1's or boots
 
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not in a white country

True but the only country I would legitimately consider as "white" is Iceland. Iceland is the only country where >90% of people I saw where actually white.

If you take countries such as Germany, Sweden, UK etc. those are ethnic countries. Less than 20% of people are white in those countries.
 
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Lets assume top 20% of men, aged 20-30, in the West

Face Rating: 6.5/10
Height: 6'1

BUT the top 20% doesn't even matter cause nowadays hypergamy is so bad its top 5% only
 
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I have 33 followers (private). I don't like social media to be honest.
I feel you man. I also have like 80 followers and never really use it. I was too distracted with video games in high school to care about social media and never even followed most people in my year group, much less those from other years.

The problem is most women nowadays are addicted to social media and will consider you extremely weird and creepy if you don’t have any. It’s one of my objectives for this year to grow a personal account to a respectable amount of followers.
 
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average person looks like shit

top 20% would be above that

5'9 or 5'10 in height
flat stomach dont even need visible abs
face can be like 4.5/10
non stick arms
does not smell
have a job that pays like 45k a year
 
Anyway the guys outside of the top 20 percent or whatever are not competing in the dating market.. They are completely weeded out.

I've made a post about this.

We are not competing against a 5'9, overweight, 25 yr old accountant.

We are competing against the 5'11 - 6 ft, white, good framed, htn.
 
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