What is the evolutionary reason of being overweight, bloated, fat considered so unattractive?

[Deleted member 7901]

Being fat is one of the worst thing that you can do to your looks, but I wonder,
why is that?

If you look at it from a perspective of when food was scarce (which is was in majority of countries 300 years ago)
Being fat is a sign of someone who's a good hunter, provider or rich, so it would make sense that women would find this attractive
due to natural selection, being 12% bf or lower at times where food is scarce, is usually not a good idea, and those who were a low body fat,
usually died.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Fat.
Can’t run.
Get eaten.

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Fat.
Can’t run.
Get eaten.

Same with muscles, Arnold Schwarzenegger has an amazing physique but can barely run,
and so are majority of body builders

also we were using weapons for a really long time at this point, and we weren't hunting for a very long time as well

I don't think this is the reason

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Bc attraction is all based on current conditions of society

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Bc attraction is all based on current conditions of society

So why would we find jawlines and signs of good health attractive? everyone lives much longer nowadays
and we have medicine

 

[potentialhabit1]

it looks low t, however, if ur kinda fat but also high t its still desirable, hence the 'dad bod'

in today's society people arent usually at risk of dying from lack of resources so having that excess weight and fat at the expense of performance and muscle tone isn't really worth anything, peak performance shows signs of valuable genetics and that is perceived as more attractive now

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Same with muscles, Arnold Schwarzenegger has an amazing physique but can barely run,
and so are majority of body builders

also we were using weapons for a really long time at this point, and we weren't hunting for a very long time as well

I don't think this is the reason

Most attractive features are indicators of health.

Being fat is terrible for your health.

 

[Deleted member 7901]

it looks low t, however, if ur kinda fat but also high t its still desirable, hence the 'dad bod'

in today's society people arent usually at risk of dying from lack of resources so having that excess weight and fat at the expense of performance and muscle tone isn't really worth anything, peak performance shows signs of valuable genetics and that is perceived as more attractive now

read what I wrote above your post regarding healthy look, also being able to run for long and being strong doesn't matter much as well

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

So why would we find jawlines and signs of good health attractive? everyone lives much longer nowadays
and we have medicine

Bad jawline is a sign of bad health that would need those medications in the first place. It's a rare good trait. Back when forward growth and jawlines were common they prob were not something people considered. Like think a good hairline in latin america would mean nothing compared to the united states, does that make sense?

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Bad jawline is a sign of bad health that would need those medications in the first place. It's a rare good trait. Back when forward growth and jawlines were common they prob were not something people considered. Like think a good hairline in latin america would mean nothing compared to the united states, does that make sense?

it doesn't make sense, because you wouldn't die either way, at the worst case you will spend some extra money for antibiotics
because you are more likely to be sick, which isn't really valuable

Being resistance to being sick was only valuable during time of scarce and before medicine

 

[potentialhabit1]

read what I wrote above your post regarding healthy look, also being able to run for long and being strong doesn't matter much as well

are u asking this question for the sake of discussion or are u genuinely not seeing how a strong jawline is more attractive than a weak jawline? a strong jawline represents strength, robustness, health, and high T. All of which are traits that will help ensure that bloodline survives.

it doesn't make sense, because you wouldn't die either way, at the worst case you will spend some extra money for antibiotics
because you are more likely to be sick, which isn't really valuable

Being attractive was only valuable during time of scarce

this isn't the result of the modern era bro its literal millennia of evolutionary programming

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

it doesn't make sense, because you wouldn't die either way, at the worst case you will spend some extra money for antibiotics
because you are more likely to be sick, which isn't really valuable

Being attractive was only valuable during time of scarce

So just don't have a life threatening disease and you'll be fine?

 

[Deleted member 1338]

Because it's disgusting how can you even fuck or see your dick if you are over 18% body fat!!

 

[Cigarette]

700 years ago being fat meant that you were a wealthy king

 

[volcelfatcel]

Fat man = lower testosterone = less dimorphic features = less good health indicators = genuine survival issues as browridge is meant to protect from injuries, high cheekbones exist also to protect from injuries, less testosterone also means less muscle etc.

 

[Deleted member 1338]

700 years ago being fat meant that you were a wealthy king

But Now if you are fat girls will call you a creep

 

[Deleted member 7901]

are u asking this question for the sake of discussion or are u genuinely not seeing how a strong jawline isn't more attractive than a week jawline? a strong jawline represents strength, robustness, health, and high T. All of which are traits that will help ensure that bloodline survives.

this isn't the result of the modern era bro its literal millennia of evolutionary programming

a strong jawline is more attractive I am not saying its not, I am giving it as a counter argument to why being fat is considered so unattractive, as both were signs of being an effective farmer or wealth which are good traits that ensure that your children will survive,
it would make sense that being fat would be as hardwired to us to be attractive as strong jawlines

 

[Deleted member 13713]

Being fat is one of the worst thing that you can do to your looks, but I wonder,
why is that?

If you look at it from a perspective of when food was scarce (which is was in majority of countries 300 years ago)
Being fat is a sign of someone who's a good hunter, provider or rich, so it would make sense that women would find this attractive
due to natural selection, being 12% bf or lower at times where food is scarce, is usually not a good idea, and those who were a low body fat,
usually died.

would u clap those cheeks

 

[Deleted member 7901]

700 years ago being fat meant that you were a wealthy king

exactly my point, and its not only 700 years ago, but 2000 years ago as well, it would just make sense that we would find it somewhat attractive, or at least not as repulsive as we do now, like the difference between 15% and 12% alone attraction wise is massive, but it wouldn't be good for you back in the day where lack of food was very common, storing more fat/calories ensures that you would survive the next winter, and shows that you can obtain food well

 

[Gonthar]

Being fat in Africa is a sign of prosperity!

 

[zikzog]

You could also think of it like this, high body fat and bloating might mean that the male has to eat every last morsel of food and store it up because he doesn't have easy access to resources. Low body fat might indicate the male has easy access to resources so doesn't need to store it all and can just eat when hungry.

Look in nature as well, the only high fat percentage animals have it either because their environment suits it (a very cold environment) or because they're the biggest creatures in that environment and can get away with it cause they're just big fuckers who will outsize you.

But I can agree with you, ridiculously low body fat will probably just show that you're starving. Really there's no reason for it to be attractive.

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Being fat in Africa is a sign of prosperity!

which was a sign of prosperity in Europe as well for thousands of years, which also would make sense
that due to evolutionary pressure, we would be hardwired to find fat people more attractive

my point in this thread is that I think that using evolutionary reasons to describe looks doesn't make any sense,
the blackpill strongly uses evolutionary pressure as a way to show to why looks matter, while I think the reasons are totally different

 

[Cigarette]

exactly my point, and its not only 700 years ago, but 2000 years ago as well, it would just make sense that we would find it somewhat attractive, or at least not as repulsive as we do now, like the difference between 15% and 12% alone attraction wise is massive, but it wouldn't be good for you back in the day where lack of food was very common, storing more fat/calories ensures that you would survive the next winter, and shows that you can obtain food well

bitches loved the warriors tho. scary fearless and ruthless men