What is the ideal frame width to aim for ?

[lebronjames23]

Only run Dut if you are happy with your dick size

Is this cause it stunts growth pretty much?

 

[lebronjames23]

This is actually true for most ppl. Steroids is also about genetic response and most guys won’t respond well

I feel bad for those guys I would actually commit suicide if roids didn’t work for me

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Is this cause it stunts growth pretty much?

Yeah it’s very risky to use 5ari before 21 as DHT is still growing your dick and also your brain

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Is this cause it stunts growth pretty much?

I had to manually backfill my neurosteroid pathways to fix the issues that inhibiting 5ar at 90%+ can have on the brain

 

[lebronjames23]

Yeah it’s very risky to use 5ari before 21 as DHT is still growing your dick and also your brain

Yeah true I started fin at 18 tho cause my hairline was Norwood 2 at 16 JFL

 

[lebronjames23]

I had to manually backfill my neurosteroid pathways to fix the issues that inhibiting 5ar at 90%+ can have on the brain

Can u dm and elab on this?

 

[5.5psl]

Steroids will make you bald and acne riddled + heart attack at 30. Stick to natty supps like Mike Thurston. Accept the way god made you

Bro I have done hours and hours of research on peds from everywhere even on this forum like loox and read threads on steroids also from all my research done then only I have made my decison to blast and cruise for life now I just can't cope with any natty test boost supps anymore

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Can u dm and elab on this?

Yeah I just did

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Bro I have done hours and hours of research on peds from everywhere even on this forum like loox and read threads on steroids also from all my research done then only I have made my decison to blast and cruise for life now I just can't cope with any natty test boost supps anymore

He’s joking

 

[5.5psl]

He’s joking

Thank God jfl

 

[szolliontaraelis]

added 2~ inches each side, 4+ total probably, doubt I'd gain much more than another inch even if I started roiding width-wise but they'd probably look thicker from the side instead.

went from 21-22 (presumably based on my father) to 25.5~

north of the netherlands.

even if you have wide shoulders if you have narrow vertical trap insertions it can still make you more narrow (zyzz had this for example and it was his biggest failo) than you actually are, my traps are inserted very wide and horizontal which gives the appearance of a better taper.

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[Orc]

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I shit on people on /fit/ constantly.

my favorite of all is baiting ppl autists into arguments, they never post body.

 

[Dystopian]

added 2~ inches each side, 4+ total probably, doubt I'd gain much more than another inch even if I started roiding width-wise but they'd probably look thicker from the side instead.

went from 21-22 (presumably based on my father) to 25.5~

north of the netherlands.

even if you have wide shoulders if you have narrow vertical trap insertions it can still make you more narrow (zyzz had this for example and it was his biggest failo) than you actually are, my traps are inserted very wide and horizontal which gives the appearance of a better taper.

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zyzz is saved by his ab inserts and tendon tightness in the core otherwise his physique would look like shit

 

[Dystopian]

23-24 is the best

cope the wider te better, 23 inch get amogged by your average 6´8 guy

 

[Orc]

zyzz is saved by his ab inserts and tendon tightness in the core otherwise his physique would look like shit

chest makes his physique, hardly anyone has that plated square shape, but his shoulders were never that good and the combination of his traps makes it look even worse, it tends to be one or the other though, most shoulder based bodies don't have great chests, most chest based bodies don't have great shoulders.

thurston has the same issue, insanely chest based with natty tier shoulders,

 

[5.5psl]

thurston has the same issue, insanely chest based

He doesn't has a chest that's a breast

 

[Dystopian]

chest makes his physique, hardly anyone has that plated square shape, but his shoulders were never that good and the combination of his traps makes it look even worse, it tends to be one or the other though, most shoulder based bodies don't have great chests, most chest based bodies don't have great shoulders.

thurston has the same issue, insanely chest based with natty tier shoulders,

Yeah but thurston chest looks like sagging boobs

 

[Deleted member 17872]

It's not just about width but also proportions

 

[AspiringMogger]

no one will notice you've got wide shoulders in clothes unless you're pushing 24+ inch.

you might get a comment or two if you're around 22-23~ in a tank top.

24 is absurd though. It’s 99th+ percentile. I’m 20 inches and I think I look wide enough while walking

 

[Deleted member 17262]

Bi-iliac breadth, torso length, waist width arm length and ribcage size all impact “broadness” of how someone looks. I am near 23” bideltoid at 176cm but having a wide waist and bi-illiac breadth kills my taper.

 

[laughingchadlurker]

Bi-iliac breadth, torso length, waist width arm length and ribcage size all impact “broadness” of how someone looks. I am near 23” bideltoid at 176cm but having a wide waist and bi-illiac breadth kills my taper.

You are either morbidly obese or not 23" bidelt at 176 cm tall. Treat yourself to a nice pair of calipers for New Years. Also make sure to take off both of your winter coats before measuring yourself JFL.

 

[laughingchadlurker]

24 is absurd though. It’s 99th+ percentile. I’m 20 inches and I think I look wide enough while walking

yep that looks like 20" finally someone who isn't adding 2" to their bidelt (like its some heigthfraud) making a fool of themselves while thinking we are all idiots lmfao

 

[AspiringMogger]

yep that looks like 20" finally someone who isn't adding 2" to their bidelt (like its some heigthfraud) making a fool of themselves while thinking we are all idiots lmfao

Is 20 inches considered good or is it still in the average range range?

 

[Deleted member 17262]

You are either morbidly obese or not 23" bidelt at 176 cm tall. Treat yourself to a nice pair of calipers for New Years. Also make sure to take off both of your winter coats before measuring yourself JFL.

18.25” biacromial, 13 inch ribcage, 12.5 inch bi-illiac breadth, 34 inch waist.

 

[Deleted member 2268]

It's not just about width but also proportions

He posted pic of me @lebronjames23

 

[Deleted member 17872]

He posted pic of me @lebronjames23

you wish

 

[Deleted member 24412]

most people say 23inch bidelt is ideal, and while i don't deny it, you have to take into account proportions,if you are wide, naturally you SHOULD be tall
An ideal male skeleton should be tall thick and wide, specially in the upper part of the torso

 

[Dystopian]

He posted pic of me @lebronjames23

you wish

He legit looks alike

 

[Deleted member 17872]

He legit looks alike

no pic no care

 

[Deleted member 22886]

24 is absurd though. It’s 99th+ percentile. I’m 20 inches and I think I look wide enough while walking

Nice ass

 

[lebronjames23]

He posted pic of me @lebronjames23

Can’t tell me that’s not you

 

[Deleted member 17735]

Im 22.5 bidel and 28.5 waist and people have said i look wide

 

[Deleted member 24940]

I shit on people on /fit/ constantly.

my favorite of all is baiting ppl autists into arguments, they never post body.

What is your slay count, be honest and don't fraud.

 

[Deleted member 2268]

What is your slay count, be honest and don't fraud.

What is yours? I hit 108

 

[KingBetaTut]

Average .org user has 21 inch bideltoid out the womb who would’ve thought

 

[WhoAmIReally]

I'm 21-21.5 and I had been commented for my frame multiple times by women.
One good example was how we were cuddling in bed and she said
"damn your shoulders are so wide that I can't even reach to hug you all over."
The girl was also 5'9 with quite long arms.

 

[Deleted member 25743]

I have 21 inch bidelt but my head is also 99th percentile jfl