WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

Getting immortalized throughout history is true immortality

What do you mean ?

Like we live on through people's memory of us ?
For the individual that's almost impossible, only the top percentile get that privilege

 

[Jenson]

You don't know what love is inkwell this doesn't make him hateful it's actually the most logical action to be expected

I'm not religious tho

i don't get ur argument this sounds more like an emotional argument whether someone understands love is not relevant the question is if God created everything and knows everything and how it's gonna end how are human choices not predetermined

 

[Deleted member 281211]

He could have just send everybody to hell if he was evil

so okay lets throw every non bwlieve to fucking hell tell you this imagine i fucking cure cancer and save all humanityis cancer disease and imma still gonna go to hell

 

[Deleted member 281211]

What do you mean ?

Like we live on through people's memory of us ?
For the individual that's almost impossible, only the top percentile get that privilege

my country,s founding father is immortal through our hearts

 

[Jenson]

You seriously need to quantum physics max bro

idk if ur giving me a compliment or telling me im oversimplifying it i have other arguments

 

[ngannou]

so okay lets throw every non bwlieve to fucking hell tell you this imagine i fucking cure cancer and save all humanityis cancer disease and imma still gonna go to hell

good deeds doesn't cover up your bad deeds

 

[Jenson]

If he was evil he wouldn't have sacrifice himself for humanity on the cross

that's not the point here we are debating about God itself here and the contradictions we cannot know if he sacrificed himself on the cross if we haven't agreed if he's real or not stick to the first part don't move

 

[Deleted member 281211]

good deeds doesn't cover up your bad deeds

bad deeds=not sure which god to believe or dont care at all LOL

 

[Emolifta]

What do you mean ?

Like we live on through people's memory of us ?
For the individual that's almost impossible, only the top percentile get that privilege

On your soul it isn’t, be like the greats, invent and live optimistically.

Now that I think of about it ye that’s impossible if you’re average or above average

 

[ngannou]

that's not the point here we are debating about God itself here and the contradictions we cannot know if he sacrificed himself on the cross if we haven't agreed if he's real or not stick to the first part don't move

The fact that he was crucified is in the roman and jewish records

 

[Jenson]

He could have just send everybody to hell if he was evil

he already is he is handpicking and creating humans where he knows they're gonna end up in Hell and he doesn't give a fuck if God can do everything he can make good exist without evil but he doesn't want to who decided good cannot exist without evil God can do everything right

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

i don't get ur argument this sounds more like an emotional argument whether someone understands love is not relevant the question is if God created everything and knows everything and how it's gonna end how are human choices not predetermined

If he only watches than no

My argument is that him damming people to hell doesn't disprove the statement "God is all loving"

No shit it's a emotional argument, love is a emotion

 

[ngannou]

bad deeds=not sure which god to believe or dont care at all LOL

not only that you have lied, you have lusted, you have sweared, disrespected others...etc

 

[Jenson]

If he only watches than no

My argument is that him damming people to hell doesn't disprove the statement "God is all loving"

No shit it's a emotional argument, love is a emotion

why does this loving God not only put random babies at suffering making them die of cancer for NO reason but it's God's plan but also makes animals suffer a ton?

explain to me why this loving God creates animals for their sole purpose to just kill each other and let the strongest live a tiger ripping apart some deer while the deer feels utter suffering and pain how is this loving at the slightest? not trying to sound like this huge animal lover but morally it's wrong

 

[ngannou]

he already is he is handpicking and creating humans where he knows they're gonna end up in Hell and he doesn't give a fuck if God can do everything he can make good exist without evil but he doesn't want to who decided good cannot exist without evil God can do everything right

he doesn't force humans to do anything, humans have will to disobey God or not.

God did not forcefully made incels to pick up boogers in the middle of night and watch .org

and indians to poop around the street

 

[Jenson]

he doesn't force humans to do anything, humans have will to disobey God or not.

God did not forcefully made incels to pick up boogers in the middle of night and watch .org

and indians to poop around the street

how do we know if we have will if God created everything which means he created the future he already created each of our actions he already knows and created that action of the indian pooping he created the action of incels watching .org what's your point

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

On your soul it isn’t, be like the greats, invent and live optimistically.

Now that I think of about it ye that’s impossible if you’re average or above average

even if you do both like genghis Khan it's still a doomed endeavour

You will exist longer but in the end all will disappear and the sun itself will implode

 

[Emolifta]

idk if ur giving me a compliment or telling me im oversimplifying it i have other arguments

No im telling you to literally quantum physics-max, you saying God is all knowing yet we have free will is a stupid argument known as divine foreknowledge.

 

[Emolifta]

even if you do both like genghis Khan it's still a doomed endeavour

You will exist longer but in the end all will disappear and the sun itself will implode

 

[ngannou]

how do we know if we have will if God created everything which means he created the future he already created each of our actions he already knows and created that action of the indian pooping he created the action of incels watching .org what's your point

Just because he know doesn't mean he forcefully made humans to do that.

Humans have ability to freely choose and select and adapt themselves and change from different environment

 

[Jenson]

No im telling you to literally quantum physics-max, you saying God is all knowing yet we have free will is a stupid argument known as divine foreknowledge.

quantum physics doesn’t solve the problem randomness isn’t free will, and if God knows everything the future is still known and created by him

 

[Emolifta]

@tomahawk

 

[Jenson]

Just because he know doesn't mean he forcefully made humans to do that.

Humans have ability to freely choose and select and adapt themselves and change from different environment

and how are we sure your christian God is real exactly I'm trying to be as respectful as possible here but you don't even believe in evolution

 

[tomacōck]

@tomahawk

I messaged God under here before

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

why does this loving God not only put random babies at suffering making them die of cancer for NO reason but it's God's plan but also makes animals suffer a ton?

explain to me why this loving God creates animals for their sole purpose to just kill each other and let the strongest live a tiger ripping apart some deer while the deer feels utter suffering and pain how is this loving at the slightest? not trying to sound like this huge animal lover but morally it's wrong

Bc it's funny

When there us no intertainment we will create a spectacle and destroy the perfect world around us

I love my Minecraft house thar I spent thousand of hours on but after a while I get bored and start a doomed battle that will destroy it for fun.
This is relevant bc that's what life already us to humans : a game
So imagine a god

All loving doesn't mean wanting the best always
Je has ascended these desires, he loves without caring on a personal level, he doesn't sit on his throne creating thousands of cattle then blowing them up for giggles.

In reality I can't explain or understand the philosophy if this theoretical being

If you want to disprove the religion then don't play within it's rules
The house always wins

 

[Jenson]

The fact that he was crucified is in the roman and jewish records

i believe jesus existed i just don't believe he is God and came to die for our sins

 

[ngannou]

and how are we sure your christian dGod is real exactly I'm trying to be as respectful as possible here but you don't even believe in evolution

We know that aside from the Jesus of the Bible Jesus was a historical person.

In the old testament there are prophecies about the messiah and it perfectly fits the historical Jesus.

Which it is impossible for a mere human being to achieve those hundreds of prophecies with their own hand.



Also we know that the world is going according to what the Bible says and Bible warned and prophesized.

We know that satan is real if you look at the epstein files the elites does all those baal/molek human sacrifice stuff

and is trying to establish new world order, One world government one world religion and the false messiah(probably the antichrist)

Which these seems extremely similar to what the Bible warned about in the book of revelation, book of daniel....etc.

watch the below video from 0:29

 

[Jenson]

Bc it's funny

When there us no intertainment we will create a spectacle and destroy the perfect world around us

I love my Minecraft house thar I spent thousand of hours on but after a while I get bored and start a doomed battle that will destroy it for fun.
This is relevant bc that's what life already us to humans : a game
So imagine a god

All loving doesn't mean wanting the best always
Je has ascended these desires, he loves without caring on a personal level, he doesn't sit on his throne creating thousands of cattle then blowing them up for giggles.

In reality I can't explain or understand the philosophy if this theoretical being

If you want to disprove the religion then don't play within it's rules
The house always wins

that's cool then but what you're describing isn't the Christian God if you're an agnostic or believe there is a God but just don't believe in religion then i agree with you and that's a possibility i can agree with

but if we're talking about the christian God christians cannot claim God is all loving and all powerful when he just allows suffering for fun He isn't a human in their eyes he's an entity without the same human needs as us funny for God might not even exist

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

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Yeah I said that

My point is that if eternal existence is the meaning the life then there is any meaning bc we can't do that no matter what







Only ascending to God hood could accomplish this but then the goal would be to gain the most power I guess.
We wouldn't even want yo ascend humanity it would be awful.
I guess the meaning is to enjoy ourselves no matter what.

 

[Jenson]

We know that aside from the Jesus of the Bible Jesus was a historical person.

In the old testament there are prophecies about the messiah and it perfectly fits the historical Jesus.

Which it is impossible for a mere human being to achieve those hundreds of prophecies with their own hand.



Also we know that the world is going according to what the Bible says and Bible warned and prophesized.

We know that satan is real if you look at the epstein files the elites does all those baal/molek human sacrifice stuff

and is trying to establish new world order, One world government one world religion and the false messiah(probably the antichrist)

Which these seems extremely similar to what the Bible warned about in the book of revelation, book of daniel....etc.

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watch the below video from 0:29
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i don't understand what the videos are exactly telling us

anything else you're telling us about this entire amount of theories you have about epstein and all and linking all those events to your religion is just confirmation bias there is no logical proof behind this sorry dude you gotta explain the videos to me

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

that's cool then but what you're describing isn't the Christian God if you're an agnostic or believe there is a God but just don't believe in religion then i agree with you and that's a possibility i can agree with

but if we're talking about the christian God christians cannot claim God is all loving and all powerful when he just allows suffering for fun He isn't a human in their eyes he's an entity without the same human needs as us funny for God might not even exist

This was my last point
You can't understand God there is no point trying to therefore we can never know if he is all loving or anything about him.
Any assumption atheists make can be countered by another from Christians.

As I said you can't disprove religion by playing within it's rules.

 

[Jenson]

This was my last point
You can't understand God there is no point trying to therefore we can never know if he is all loving or anything about him.
Any assumption atheists make can be countered by another from Christians.

As I said you can't disprove religion by playing within it's rules.

i agree with what you're saying you can't disprove a religion with science while playing within it's rules but you can point out the contradictions the religion has

 

[ngannou]

i don't understand what the videos are exactly telling us

anything else you're telling us about this entire amount of theories you have about epstein and all and linking all those events to your religion is just confirmation bias there is no logical proof behind this sorry dude you gotta explain the videos to me

you just don't understand the video It is not a bias but a definite proof

the jewish elites are talking about the new world order, one world government and

the messiah that will come.

The video below is netanayhu talking with rabbi and being told to hasten the coming of the messiah.

Yes of course they rejected Jesus as their messiah and who would that false messiah be that is ruling the one world government?

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

i agree with what you're saying you can't disprove a religion with science while playing within it's rules but you can point out the contradictions the religion has

You can point out some but not about God as a individual .

I don't believe you can disprove religion with another the same way you can't with science.
Both are only beliefs from very unreliable sources.

 

[Jenson]

you just don't understand the video It is not a bias but a definite proof

the jewish elites are talking about the new world order, one world government and

the messiah that will come.

The video below is netanayhu talking with rabbi and being told to hasten the coming of the messiah.

Yes of course they rejected Jesus as their messiah and who would that false messiah be that is ruling the one world government?

videos of leaders planning things don’t confirm biblical predictions that’s interpretation not proof but if this is what you believe alright

 

[Jenson]

You can point out some but not about God as a individual .

I don't believe you can disprove religion with another the same way you can't with science.
Both are only beliefs from very unreliable sources.

God claims to be all loving and powerful and the Bible was made for human understanding so im gonna assume he means in the human form of all loving and all powerful

if there was a way to fully disprove religion then no one would be religious it's just about what you want to believe and it's insanely complex this stuff is being debated over for centuries i just chose not to believe cause there's no reason that God needs to make it this hard to believe in him or not otherwise those contradictions and arguments wouldn't exist

 

[Deleted member 281211]

not only that you have lied, you have lusted, you have sweared, disrespected others...etc

sure bro cope harder

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

God claims to be all loving and powerful and the Bible was made for human understanding so im gonna assume he means in the human form of all loving and all powerful

if there was a way to fully disprove religion then no one would be religious it's just about what you want to believe and it's insanely complex this stuff is being debated over for centuries i just chose not to believe cause there's no reason that God needs to make it this hard to believe in him or not otherwise those contradictions and arguments wouldn't exist

There are many reasons to why he would make it so hard, hundreds even this is one of the oldest arguments.

Personally I just live with my own values and morals and don't care for any of the questions any of these schools have answers to.

 

[LeFort 4 Enjoyer]

We're all in the matrix of a random guy's computer in a basement and we can't do anything to change the outcome of our lives. When we die we will be forgotten and no one will remember us because none of us here has done anything significant to be remembered.