What is the ROI of gear? - Not Worth Unless.......

[Rigged]

Don’t get on gear till you’re 18

Why not

 

[Typhon]

Why not

You could have a late growth spurt and the longer you wait the better

 

[Rigged]

You could have a late growth spurt and the longer you wait the better

Nah im just short no late growth spurt for me bhai

 

[Typhon]

Nah im just short no late growth spurt for me bhai

Roiding has low roi when short

 

[ChadL1te]

not if you know what you're doing jfl

you're an idiot lol

 

[Deleted member 62931]

you're an idiot lol

lmaooo why u say that

 

[ChadL1te]

Never seen so much manlet cope in one thread before.

Legit just look like u workout and you'll be fine.

The only ppl who have ROI from roids are ppl like seid and laid who are now multi-millionaires and have top 1% genetics. The same cannot be said for most meatheads

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Never seen so much manlet cope in one thread before.

Legit just look like u workout and you'll be fine.

The only ppl who have ROI from roids are ppl like seid and laid who are now multi-millionaires and have top 1% genetics. The same cannot be said for most meatheads

Thank you jeez. No girl wants roided physique just chasing men validation at that point tbh

 

[ChadL1te]

lmaooo why u say that

Because its a stupid comment.

Even if you take every precaution, you can't control how your body reacts to compounds, you can only minimize chances of adverse side effects.

Plus, if we're including SARMS, all sarms are nowhere near worth it and have no long term research.

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Never seen so much manlet cope in one thread before.

Legit just look like u workout and you'll be fine.

The only ppl who have ROI from roids are ppl like seid and laid who are now multi-millionaires and have top 1% genetics. The same cannot be said for most meatheads

Big Muscle does not = Can fight thats why most men want it

 

[ChadL1te]

Thank you jeez. No girl wants roided physique just chasing men validation at that point tbh

30 lb syndrome has plagued many.

Including myself at one point

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Because its a stupid comment.

Even if you take every precaution, you can't control how your body reacts to compounds, you can only minimize chances of adverse side effects.

Plus, if we're including SARMS, all sarms are nowhere near worth it and have no long term research.

Yeah i agree

 

[Deleted member 62931]

30 lb syndrome has plagued many.

Including myself at one point

Same then did self reflection and realized only reason wanted to get bigger was insecurity.

I wanted other men to respect me.

You easily do that with MMA/Guns + Working out.

More muscle legit makes it harder for you fight n stuff just a hassle and have to eat a ton to maintain it

 

[ChadL1te]

Same then did self reflection and realized only reason wanted to get bigger was insecurity.

I wanted other men to respect me.

You easily do that with MMA/Guns + Working out.

More muscle legit makes it harder for you fight n stuff just a hassle and have to eat a ton to maintain it

Yeah same here, Im gonna start BJJ soon.

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Yeah same here, Im gonna start BJJ soon.

Starting this summer im beat a bodybuilder up and laugh all those steroids for what

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Yeah same here, Im gonna start BJJ soon.

imagine looking like u can fight

 

[ChadL1te]

Starting this summer im beat a bodybuilder up and laugh all those steroids for what

I do enjoy bodybuilding quite a bit, but it took me some time to realize getting big is legit useless for the most part.

 

[Deleted member 62931]

I do enjoy bodybuilding quite a bit, but it took me some time to realize getting big is legit useless for the most part.

yeah i agree. its just ego for the most part.

I want to be a functional person who can run and have muscle. I want to be able to fuck dudes up and look fit

Gaining hella muscle just becomes useless after a while.

 

[ChadL1te]

yeah i agree. its just ego for the most part.

I want to be a functional person who can run and have muscle. I want to be able to fuck dudes up and look fit

Gaining hella muscle just becomes useless after a while.

.Org MMA card when?

I dont have any org enemies rn so I'll have to wait

 

[Deleted member 62931]

.Org MMA card when?

I dont have any org enemies rn so I'll have to wait

Thailand Meetup + Sparing.

 

[ChadL1te]

Thailand Meetup + Sparing.

Down.

 

[Deleted member 62931]

Down.

bro is gonna mog be with JBW

 

[Rigged]

Roiding has low roi when short

The only true negative of test is height, if ur short it has a higher roi also im roiding while short to skip progress not to get bodybuilder big

 

[Typhon]

The only true negative of test is height, if ur short it has a higher roi also im roiding while short to skip progress not to get bodybuilder big

Muscle doesn’t look good if your me short

 

[Rigged]

Muscle doesn’t look good if your me short

How big u think i wanna get? Ima try to get vinnie hacker physique if possible that looks good on short or tall since its not too big its just low bf

 

[its_over]

The Return on Investment (ROI) is legit more cons then pros.

You should only get on gear if you are competing or sports if you aren't getting money or monetizing for it it's legit a waste of time in most cases.

Let's analyze the Pro's and Cons:

Pros:
- Muscle Growth
- Male Attention and Respect
- Increase Sex Appeal ( but goes out the water when you get too much muscle which happens to most guys )
- Muscle dysmorphia ( a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder about being lean and having muscle )

Individuals with MD perceive themselves as small and weak even if they look normal or very muscular

Imagine you get to a point where you can't enjoy life cause you compulsive about being lean and dieting 24/7 you will nuke your social life.

Cons:
- Lose most gains after you stop the cycle

- Mood swings, increased appetite, difficulty sleeping, acne, and more severe conditions like Cushing syndrome, diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, and increased risk of infection

- Woman don't care about muscle when you become hella big.

- Dependency and Withdrawal ( There is a risk of becoming psychologically and physically dependent on steroids. Withdrawal symptoms can be severe and include fatigue, restlessness, loss of appetite, insomnia, reduced sex drive, and steroid cravings )

- Steroids age you which makes u less attractive to woman ( Research has shown that anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS), synthetic versions of the male sex hormone testosterone, can have deleterious effects on the brain, causing it to age prematurely. A study highlighted in ScienceDaily found that AAS users had a bigger brain age gap compared to non-users, indicating accelerated brain aging. Those with dependence on AAS, or with a longer history of use, showed even more pronounced effects of accelerated brain aging. This is significant because advanced brain age is associated with impaired cognitive performance and an increased risk for neurodegenerative diseases.)

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TLDR: Steroids have low ROI unless you play sports or monetize your physique.

You are better off taking Sarms for subtle boost or just buying brain supplements n nootropics.

Wrote this at work stop telling people to get on gear when ROI are terrible.

If you want bitches keep your youthful face and train natty 4x a week and eat clean.

Make money with your brain not ur physique JFL


Citations:
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10759908/
[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8274439/
[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6043738/
[4] https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/anabolic-steroids
[5] https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/ajp.2006.163.4.697
[6] https://tau.amegroups.org/article/view/19737/html
[7] https://www.webmd.com/men/anabolic-steroids
[8] https://www.physio-pedia.com/The_in...teroids_on_physiologic_processes_and_exercise
[9] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395920302164
[10] https://www.dea.gov/factsheets/steroids
[11] https://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2010/10/why-steroids-have-no-place-in-sports/
[12] https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/viagra-foods
[13] https://medlineplus.gov/anabolicsteroids.html
[14] https://study.com/academy/lesson/pros-cons-of-performance-enhancing-drugs.html
[15] https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-019-7288-x
[16] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/natural-steroids
[17] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09687637.2021.1882940
[18] https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/steroids
[19] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-12977-w
[20] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/24637

Honestly even natty training ages me fuck, taking steroids would be an overkill. On the other hand I have good genetics and I would do very good with them, but I came to the conclusion that I want to have the best possible face so imma stay at 10% for LIFE
Probably if I start roiding it will be at like 45 cause Idc anymore about collagen

 

[Typhon]

How big u think i wanna get? Ima try to get vinnie hacker physique if possible that looks good on short or tall since its not too big its just low bf

You don’t need roids for that, especially at ur height bro

 

[Deleted member 39145]

stopped reading after
"but goes out the water when you get too much muscle which happens to most guys"

 

[chinmax]

Its roiding or being 55kg forever

 

[roids]

The Return on Investment (ROI) is legit more cons then pros.

You should only get on gear if you are competing or sports if you aren't getting money or monetizing for it it's legit a waste of time in most cases.

Let's analyze the Pro's and Cons:

Pros:
- Muscle Growth
- Male Attention and Respect
- Increase Sex Appeal ( but goes out the water when you get too much muscle which happens to most guys )
- Muscle dysmorphia ( a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder about being lean and having muscle )

Individuals with MD perceive themselves as small and weak even if they look normal or very muscular

Imagine you get to a point where you can't enjoy life cause you compulsive about being lean and dieting 24/7 you will nuke your social life.

Cons:
- Lose most gains after you stop the cycle

- Mood swings, increased appetite, difficulty sleeping, acne, and more severe conditions like Cushing syndrome, diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, and increased risk of infection

- Woman don't care about muscle when you become hella big.

- Dependency and Withdrawal ( There is a risk of becoming psychologically and physically dependent on steroids. Withdrawal symptoms can be severe and include fatigue, restlessness, loss of appetite, insomnia, reduced sex drive, and steroid cravings )

- Steroids age you which makes u less attractive to woman ( Research has shown that anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS), synthetic versions of the male sex hormone testosterone, can have deleterious effects on the brain, causing it to age prematurely. A study highlighted in ScienceDaily found that AAS users had a bigger brain age gap compared to non-users, indicating accelerated brain aging. Those with dependence on AAS, or with a longer history of use, showed even more pronounced effects of accelerated brain aging. This is significant because advanced brain age is associated with impaired cognitive performance and an increased risk for neurodegenerative diseases.)

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TLDR: Steroids have low ROI unless you play sports or monetize your physique.

You are better off taking Sarms for subtle boost or just buying brain supplements n nootropics.

Wrote this at work stop telling people to get on gear when ROI are terrible.

If you want bitches keep your youthful face and train natty 4x a week and eat clean.

Make money with your brain not ur physique JFL


Citations:
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10759908/
[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8274439/
[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6043738/
[4] https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/anabolic-steroids
[5] https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/ajp.2006.163.4.697
[6] https://tau.amegroups.org/article/view/19737/html
[7] https://www.webmd.com/men/anabolic-steroids
[8] https://www.physio-pedia.com/The_in...teroids_on_physiologic_processes_and_exercise
[9] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395920302164
[10] https://www.dea.gov/factsheets/steroids
[11] https://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2010/10/why-steroids-have-no-place-in-sports/
[12] https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/viagra-foods
[13] https://medlineplus.gov/anabolicsteroids.html
[14] https://study.com/academy/lesson/pros-cons-of-performance-enhancing-drugs.html
[15] https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-019-7288-x
[16] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/natural-steroids
[17] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09687637.2021.1882940
[18] https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/steroids
[19] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-12977-w
[20] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/24637

no lol roids will not instantly turn you into gigachad, it takes years of gram dosages to get facial muscle overdevelopment and side effects that are unmanageable