
iamgoingtoascend
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Just looks so weak and it ruins my front profile.
Compare it to this photo, despite the frontal jaw angle being ass it still looks better somehow.

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your face looks narrow, check your palate size but lower third is 100% narrow which makes it look weakView attachment 4158637
Just looks so weak and it ruins my front profile.
Compare it to this photo, despite the frontal jaw angle being ass it still looks better somehow.
View attachment 4158641(jutting, cheek biting, pushing out my chin)
Surgery is the only wayView attachment 4158637
Just looks so weak and it ruins my front profile.
Compare it to this photo, despite the frontal jaw angle being ass it still looks better somehow.
View attachment 4158641(jutting, cheek biting, pushing out my chin)
I tried to measure upper palate width DIY, got it to around 36 mm.your face looks narrow, check your palate size but lower third is 100% narrow which makes it look weak
Which surgeries? Currently considering trimax or wrap around jaw implantSurgery is the only way
Idk but probably a jaw surgery i think and its better to ask a docterWhich surgeries? Currently considering trimax or wrap around jaw implant
Narrow chin and overbite is nerfing it also your bad chin to philtrum ratio might give u the look of a bad chinBtw I’m recessed and I have an overbite as well
My chin to philtrum ratio is actually 2, so not bad. But I get what you mean though it still looks bad (probably cuz long philtrum and recessed chin)Narrow chin and overbite is nerfing it also your bad chin to philtrum ratio might give u the look of a bad chin
I have balanced facial thirds so not really. My lower third and upper third are equal, and are slightly longer then my midface. But just slightlywell i dont see your whole face so i dont know 100 percent sure but it seems your lower third may be longer than other thirds(could but wrong tho just appears longer than average)
Would trimax lower this? (I’ll probably get some ccw rotation with it since side is a bit downgrown, my mandibular plane angle is 25)Jaw frontal angle
My dad has a somewhat narrow skull, so it’s probably genetic. He still mogs regardless though so I don’t think it matters too muchIt’s not narrow, it fits your face actually. Just a narrow-ish skull in general.
2. pic looks utterly retarded.
Seems more like a chin issue,go with an implantWould trimax lower this? (I’ll probably get some ccw rotation with it since side is a bit downgrown, my mandibular plane angle is 25)
If I widened the chin then the frontal jaw angle would be higher though?Seems more like a chin issue,go with an implant
yes,90 degrees is ideal and yours is maybe 75-80 im guessingIf I widened the chin then the frontal jaw angle would be higher though?
I think I might look better with lower angle though, I don’t want to look like the second pictureyes,90 degrees is ideal and yours is maybe 75-80 im guessing
The first/left is the one with a higher frontal angleI think I might look better with lower angle though, I don’t want to look like the second picture
Both my dad and brother have lower jaw angles like the first one, but I am a bit downgrown (MPA is 25) which I think is why mine is higher.
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Shii my bad gThe first/left is the one with a higher frontal angle
Good sollution if youre downgrown,ould have to see the side profileShii my bad g
Would ccw bimax raise frontal angle then?
If so; ccw bimax to fix side profile and raise frontal angle + genio to extend recessed chin + maybe a little widening if needed?
Check dm brotherGood sollution if youre downgrown,ould have to see the side profil
also seems like ur skull is extremely long overall this might affect the look of ur lower third as wellView attachment 4158637
Just looks so weak and it ruins my front profile.
Compare it to this photo, despite the frontal jaw angle being ass it still looks better somehow.
View attachment 4158641(jutting, cheek biting, pushing out my chin)
palate expander is better ofc just higher effort than implantsI tried to measure upper palate width DIY, got it to around 36 mm.
Would palate expansion help much aesthetically? Or should I get implants / buccal fat removal? Also btw is it really that narrow? (My bigonial to bizygomatic width is 83%)
yeah narrow skull isn’t a death sentence but it’s not ideal eitherMy dad has a somewhat narrow skull, so it’s probably genetic. He still mogs regardless though so I don’t think it matters too much
nah it’s not gonna make ur skull look much wider, maybe just a bit by reducing chin length from the front. actually ur jaw frontal angle looks pretty alright, idk what the other guy is on. you clearly just have narrow skull + bad chin shape + narrow jawWould trimax lower this? (I’ll probably get some ccw rotation with it since side is a bit downgrown, my mandibular plane angle is 25)
What's the ideal chin?Narrow chin and overbite is nerfing it also your bad chin to philtrum ratio might give u the look of a bad chin
Depends on the person and their featuresWhat's the ideal chin ?
nah it’s not gonna make ur skull look much wider, maybe just a bit by reducing chin length from the front. actually ur jaw frontal angle looks pretty alright, idk what the other guy is on. you clearly just have narrow skull + bad chin shape + narrow jaw
oh if ur side is cooked it’s another story, if u jeed bimax u should always get bimax first before any other hardmaxxesView attachment 4183045
Ignore the autistic face, but in this photo I’m straining my face and pushing my chin out (not jutting) to make it look more defined and the angles sharper. I think your right that my frontal angle is decent (could be better though), and rather it’s that I just lack definition and lack sharper angles.
As for hardmaxxing I think I’ll just consult with surgeons and ask them what they think is the best. My side is cooked, so I’m not sure if implants is going to be good enough, even though it would probably ascend the front. (or?)
GenioplasticyView attachment 4158637
Just looks so weak and it ruins my front profile.
Compare it to this photo, despite the frontal jaw angle being ass it still looks better somehow.
View attachment 4158641(jutting, cheek biting, pushing out my chin)
Your jut is so obvious get some braces broView attachment 4158637
Just looks so weak and it ruins my front profile.
Compare it to this photo, despite the frontal jaw angle being ass it still looks better somehow.
View attachment 4158641(jutting, cheek biting, pushing out my chin)
Yeah I’ll see what my surgeon says I might be able to pull off like a wrap around jaw implant or something, but most likely I’ll need trimaxoh if ur side is cooked it’s another story, if u jeed bimax u should always get bimax first before any other hardmaxxes