What I've learned through ascending and how it's changed my perception (DOOMER)

[yeye11]

I started looksmaxxing about a year ago, I am 25, 6'4, and mixed race ( half white half black), I live in western Europe where the meta is even more brutal than in the US.

I started when I was norwood 3 and 105 kg, I dropped 20kg, hardmaxxed me a hairline through turkish surgery and have taken my sports more seriously to get a good body shape again.
I always had the same personality, I always loved to make retarded jokes and I always had this chuddy humour which would usually turn off leftists immediately, I am also neurodivergent which might be a huge factor as to why I struggled so much prior to ascending. I was realistically a MTN prior to ascending, due to the height halo, if I were sub 6ft the norwood 3 and higher bmi would've firmly placed me in LTN or maybe even sub 5.
I can now confidently say that I am at least HTN if not CL, and the effects on my life have been substantial in every single regard but it doesn't leave me feeling like I "won", although I must say that looksmaxxing is a complete must in todays society and especially todays dating.

I have been on dates with roughly 10 girls (+-2) this year and also smashed again after having got none for about 2 years. The difference in how you are treated even if you absolutely do not even care about how you're perceived by the things you say is genuinely blackpilling. I remember when I went on a date with this girl from bumble i just wanted to test how far I can push against the propaganda that women believe in, she is significantly shorter than me (around 5'1) and she started talking about height and I just flat out told her that I get away with saying the things I do because I am tall and handsome and if I were short I would have to be on my best behaviour.
She actually agreed. She even uttered some sympathy, because she observes how her short brother gets treated and basically gets no action at all. I only met her once though.
Also, now every single time I go out to the pubs or nightclubs or whatever I get plenty of IOIs and one time a woman asked me for my number while she was working, she initiated the entire interaction, to me that's insane because if a sub 5 man asked stacy for her number while working, he'd be fired.

I also get effortless slays now, so why am I still blackpilled?

The truly blackpilling part is the reality of nobody really giving a fuck about who you are and that it is virtually impossible to find real love and real connection because now I know that if I just looked a little worse or was a bit shorter my life would be hell again. I never even experienced what it's like to be a heightcel so I have deep sympathies for every heightcely especially because it's mostly predetermined and you have no means of changing it. Now that I mog I can tell leftist women the most right wing thing and they still want to get with me.
Now even during sex I can't stop thinking about how all of this means nothing and is completely shallow.

I believe that being ND plays a big role in how looksmaxxing plays a role in life, because neurotypicals do a LOT better in social settings, so me mogging now negates the fact that I am pretty retarded socially.

All in all I encourage everyone to keep ascending but beware of the sour taste that comes with it when you actually ascend and things suddenly change even though you as a person are still the same.

 

[omnivorre]

first post classic

 

[yeye11]

first post classic

is this a common thing as a first post

 

[Acquiescence]

Why would you suddenly become bluepill after ascending

 

[yeye11]

Why would you suddenly become bluepill after ascending

very true, my friend told me that ascend + forget is what I should be doing

 

[mateus17]

I started looksmaxxing about a year ago, I am 25, 6'4, and mixed race ( half white half black), I live in western Europe where the meta is even more brutal than in the US.

I started when I was norwood 3 and 105 kg, I dropped 20kg, hardmaxxed me a hairline through turkish surgery and have taken my sports more seriously to get a good body shape again.
I always had the same personality, I always loved to make retarded jokes and I always had this chuddy humour which would usually turn off leftists immediately, I am also neurodivergent which might be a huge factor as to why I struggled so much prior to ascending. I was realistically a MTN prior to ascending, due to the height halo, if I were sub 6ft the norwood 3 and higher bmi would've firmly placed me in LTN or maybe even sub 5.
I can now confidently say that I am at least HTN if not CL, and the effects on my life have been substantial in every single regard but it doesn't leave me feeling like I "won", although I must say that looksmaxxing is a complete must in todays society and especially todays dating.

I have been on dates with roughly 10 girls (+-2) this year and also smashed again after having got none for about 2 years. The difference in how you are treated even if you absolutely do not even care about how you're perceived by the things you say is genuinely blackpilling. I remember when I went on a date with this girl from bumble i just wanted to test how far I can push against the propaganda that women believe in, she is significantly shorter than me (around 5'1) and she started talking about height and I just flat out told her that I get away with saying the things I do because I am tall and handsome and if I were short I would have to be on my best behaviour.
She actually agreed. She even uttered some sympathy, because she observes how her short brother gets treated and basically gets no action at all. I only met her once though.
Also, now every single time I go out to the pubs or nightclubs or whatever I get plenty of IOIs and one time a woman asked me for my number while she was working, she initiated the entire interaction, to me that's insane because if a sub 5 man asked stacy for her number while working, he'd be fired.

I also get effortless slays now, so why am I still blackpilled?

The truly blackpilling part is the reality of nobody really giving a fuck about who you are and that it is virtually impossible to find real love and real connection because now I know that if I just looked a little worse or was a bit shorter my life would be hell again. I never even experienced what it's like to be a heightcel so I have deep sympathies for every heightcely especially because it's mostly predetermined and you have no means of changing it. Now that I mog I can tell leftist women the most right wing thing and they still want to get with me.
Now even during sex I can't stop thinking about how all of this means nothing and is completely shallow.

I believe that being ND plays a big role in how looksmaxxing plays a role in life, because neurotypicals do a LOT better in social settings, so me mogging now negates the fact that I am pretty retarded socially.

All in all I encourage everyone to keep ascending but beware of the sour taste that comes with it when you actually ascend and things suddenly change even though you as a person are still the same.

I mean. Your height alone should be enough to get you pussy even if your aren’t facially attractive.
But yes being ND will fuck you up no matter how beautiful you are.

 

[Acquiescence]

very true, my friend told me that ascend + forget is what I should be doing

Forgetting entirely would be foolish

 

[yeye11]

I mean. Your height alone should be enough to get you pussy even if your aren’t facially attractive.
But yes being ND will fuck you up no matter how beautiful you are.

very true but I never would accept getting with a fat girl or LTB and I feel like MTB+ doesn't go for anything but HTN+ when it comes to casual sex

 

[yeye11]

Forgetting entirely would be foolish

I don't even think it's possible to forget because once you see it you can't unsee it

 

[mateus17]

very true but I never would accept getting with a fat girl or LTB and I feel like MTB+ doesn't go for anything but HTN+ when it comes to casual sex

Yeah very true.
Ive only fucked an LTB.
MTB’s get fucked by HTN’s during teen years so you have to do more work to bag them if your below HTN

 

[yeye11]

Yeah very true.
Ive only fucked an LTB.
MTB’s get fucked by HTN’s during teen years so you have to do more work to bag them if your below HTN

I think it's insane that now that I sit at HTN/CL the MTBs and even HTBs express IOIs and slide into MY dms. Stacy is ofc not going to be attainable because I am still broke and don't statusmog enough

 

[yeye11]

Yeah very true.
Ive only fucked an LTB.
MTB’s get fucked by HTN’s during teen years so you have to do more work to bag them if your below HTN

And also the fact that the MTBs get fucked by Chad young skews their perception and makes them think that they could get into a relationship with chad which inflates their egos hence why they don't go for their looksmatch which is beyond retarded. When they get older and drop to LTB then they want to go for MTN after they had 15+ bodies because they need a betabuxxer. Only way to escape this is ascending and getting an mtb who's like 20

 

[mateus17]

I think it's insane that now that I sit at HTN/CL the MTBs and even HTBs express IOIs and slide into MY dms. Stacy is ofc not going to be attainable because I am still broke and don't statusmog enough

Yeah I mean even then it won’t be enough which is why this whole thing is one big
cope.
I don’t have the energy to pander towards women especially since I can’t fix my biggest falio (lower third) without surgery so I just stopped using dating apps and rely on luck to be in an environment with foids who I can potentially bag.
It’s over for most of us alot of people on this forum are better off escortmaxxing if they want to satisfy their lust, going for ugly women when you know you ain’t attracted to her is a nightmare.