What LTB, MTB, HTB, SL, Stacy look like?

for the most part , no i don't agree with it. also why have u separated sub5 and ltb into different categories sub5=ltb
what would you rate them?
 
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Ignore @anthony111553
His rating system can't be saved.
PSL measures aesthetics, your ability to model

That guy has long midface and nose is not defined. Lower third has an unideal shape, but good colouring and very striking eye area with zygo definition

She most definitely can model
what guy are you talking about?
 
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Droopy columella, deep crease LEE, swarthy colouring, chin looks slightly recessed
I can understand you liking her eye area, but it isn't enough IMO to push her into MTB territory
She still has all 5s minus a 6 misc thats a clear cut mid MTB
Jaw angularity, ramus visibility, general lack of falios
Can understand zygo 404 argument, but she angularity fogs hard
Her misc is a 4 and she has a filter he Ang is acc a 4 aswell her harmony is a 5 and her Dimo is a 5 shes ltb
Harmony, youth indicators, thick fat pads (good undereyes), few falios that aren't really seen on picture as they are mostly lower third related and she's facing down
I've seen other pics of Sophie and her in motion she has all 5s so shes low MTB solid
You've lost your mind
Her eyes are way to pct, her nose and lips look deformed and shes mega botched combined with a 4 harmony and her JFA is masc her Dimo isn't good either and neither is her Ang bc her zygos are low set
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A Supermodel is MTB?
She has a 3 Dimo 6 misc 8 harmony 6 Ang shes only a super model bc shes tall
Now we get to the good part. Sorry to break to u but
1. Her harmony is high like an 8
2. her Ang is a 6 shes bloated and boneless
3. her misc is a 6 ideally as a women u want your nose to lips in a 1:3 ratio and hers is 1:1.5 not to mention her nose is deformed
4. Her Dimo also a 5 despite having a dimorphic eye are area and ratios her lips and nose and zygo setness and projection really fuck her
Screenshot 2025 10 10 102753 PM
 
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agree with most , all in a similar ball park , however in regards to the end where u mention harmony iirc you don't believe in harmony the way CA does it (ratios etc) so what exactly does 'harmony' consist of for you
CA and all looksmaxxers think too linearly. They try brute forcing everything through the same hole (range)

I made a thread for how it should be visualised recently:

Don't take anything @anthony111553 says seriously. He's low IQ and a troll
 
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CA and all looksmaxxers think too linearly. They try brute forcing everything through the same hole (range)

I made a thread for how it should be visualised recently:

Don't take anything @anthony111553 says seriously. He's low IQ and a troll
im literally saying the truth, people underrate moggers
 
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CA and all looksmaxxers think too linearly. They try brute forcing everything through the same hole (range)

I made a thread for how it should be visualised recently:

Don't take anything @anthony111553 says seriously. He's low IQ and a troll
i find the concept interesting but would you not agree the ratios that have been established seem to be very consistent across top faces and most of the best looking faces seem to share the same features.

Even the example you mentioned (Johnny Depp) IMO would look alot better if said ratios were more ideal (higher zygo setness , wider mouth , better chin to philtrum etc) with that being said having a high harmony score doesn't seem to be insanely rare as well as great miscellaneous features which creates a more striking face seems to be able to somewhat compensate for mediocre harmony (high contrast , great pfl , eye colour , brow density)

I do agree that people are trying to create a one fits all system that is perhaps too linear although i don't think this is inherently wrong aesthetics is largely objective and you either meet the standard or you don't
 
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Sophie Rain #MENTIONED AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA



GOOONNEEEEERSSSS PARADISE :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::feelswhat::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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I like the examples you provided for the MTBS
 
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im literally saying the truth, people underrate moggers
I've seen how you rate and I know what the problem is with your rating
I'll tell you it once only

You let Appeal infringe on PSL
I am rating their PSL, aesthetics/strikingness + modelling ability. Where guys like Depoot score high

Now I said Appeal but you are even worse. I've seen you let fame influence your ratings too
You think like a foid and have no boundaries or criteria list whenever you switch rating scales
You don't know what to prioritise and your terrible intuition shows in every new incoherent rate
 
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I hate women
 
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I've seen how you rate and I know what the problem is with your rating
I'll tell you it once only

You let Appeal infringe on PSL
I am rating their PSL, aesthetics/strikingness + modelling ability. Where guys like Depoot score high

Now I said Appeal but you are even worse. I've seen you let fame influence your ratings too
You think like a foid and have no boundaries or criteria list whenever you switch rating scales
You don't know what to prioritise and your terrible intuition shows in every new incoherent rate
fame has never influenced my rattings, it just seems like that cause org is full of young people who are low dimo so they get low scores
 
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I've seen how you rate and I know what the problem is with your rating
I'll tell you it once only

You let Appeal infringe on PSL
I am rating their PSL, aesthetics/strikingness + modelling ability. Where guys like Depoot score high

Now I said Appeal but you are even worse. I've seen you let fame influence your ratings too
You think like a foid and have no boundaries or criteria list whenever you switch rating scales
You don't know what to prioritise and your terrible intuition shows in every new incoherent rate
do you think my rating scale is good?
 
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Even the example you mentioned (Johnny Depp) IMO would look alot better if said ratios were more ideal (higher zygo setness , wider mouth , better chin to philtrum etc)
You're referring to the true average of all ratio ranges
That's what I mentioned in the other thread about them converging with morphs

If you changed Johnny Depp's face completely it wouldn't be Depp anymore. You're cloning a random
Everybody's ideal ratios depends on their own ratios

Trying to find the best is a search for 8PSL, but it's pointless, because it becomes an all or nothing game. It's a cop out
Other than it being not possible (you don't even know perfect let alone how to change everything to it), it removes individuality

I do agree that people are trying to create a one fits all system that is perhaps too linear although i don't think this is inherently wrong aesthetics is largely objective and you either meet the standard or you don't
Harmony isn't objective, it's entirely relative.
Then it's how harmonious you are relative to society
There is no objectivity

do you think my rating scale is good?
I haven't seen it but if you follow an equvalent tier to rarity system, then your Mid HTB was a good rate
 
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You're referring to the true average of all ratio ranges
That's what I mentioned in the other thread about them converging with morphs

If you changed Johnny Depp's face completely it wouldn't be Depp anymore. You're cloning a random
Everybody's ideal ratios depends on their own ratios

Trying to find the best is a search for 8PSL, but it's pointless, because it becomes an all or nothing game. It's a cop out
Other than it being not possible (you don't even know perfect let alone how to change everything to it), it removes individuality


Harmony isn't objective, it's entirely relative.
Then it's how harmonious you are relative to society
There is no objectivity


I haven't seen it but if you follow an equvalent tier to rarity system, then your Mid HTB was a good rate
mirin
 
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She fogs everyone on that list @widdi

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You're referring to the true average of all ratio ranges
That's what I mentioned in the other thread about them converging with morphs

If you changed Johnny Depp's face completely it wouldn't be Depp anymore. You're cloning a random
Everybody's ideal ratios depends on their own ratios

Trying to find the best is a search for 8PSL, but it's pointless, because it becomes an all or nothing game. It's a cop out
Other than it being not possible (you don't even know perfect let alone how to change everything to it), it removes individuality
It seems this comes down to believing whether aesthetics is objective or not , i personally do, therefore i don't think there's anything wrong with someone no longer looking like them and a lack of individuality if that person were to look better
Harmony isn't objective, it's entirely relative.
Then it's how harmonious you are relative to society
There is no objectivity
I agree that it hasn't been solved what causes facial harmony but there is a good general system in place i would say , if there's no objecitively at all then why is it do you think we would seem the same general proportions (FWHR , TFWHR , Eye spacing , Eye aspect ratio , ect) across most the top faces.
 
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i find the concept interesting but would you not agree the ratios that have been established seem to be very consistent across top faces and most of the best looking faces seem to share the same features.

Even the example you mentioned (Johnny Depp) IMO would look alot better if said ratios were more ideal (higher zygo setness , wider mouth , better chin to philtrum etc) with that being said having a high harmony score doesn't seem to be insanely rare as well as great miscellaneous features which creates a more striking face seems to be able to somewhat compensate for mediocre harmony (high contrast , great pfl , eye colour , brow density)

I do agree that people are trying to create a one fits all system that is perhaps too linear although i don't think this is inherently wrong aesthetics is largely objective and you either meet the standard or you don't
Who are the people who make up for poor harmony with great features?
 
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Who are the people who make up for poor harmony with great features?
not poor but mediocre , genuinely bad (sub 50%) will just cause bad features too , ian somerhalder , jordan barrett are two that come to mind immediately.
 
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not poor but mediocre , genuinely bad (sub 50%) will just cause bad features too , ian somerhalder , jordan barrett are two that come to mind immediately.
They both have chad sides
 
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There's too many shit raters.
This will be a rating for PSL ✅
Not Appeal ❌
Not Genes (completely dependent on race) ❌

Rating these specific pictures ✅
Not
the person ❌

This PSL Rating is to measure aesthetics. I use the following rarities:
HTB entry: top 15%, 1/6
Stacylite entry: top 1%, 1/100
Stacy entry: top 0.05%, 1/2000


To understand the rarity:
HTB is on average most aesthetic in a small group of friends, Stacylite is top 1-2 most aesthetic girls in your year group, Stacy is most aesthetic in 2 schools of just women

Unlike other threads where somebody will show 1 picture and rate the individual entirely on it, I'm going to be rating the pictures.
It's up to 🫵 to form the right informed judgement, by taking into account multiple pictures from different angles, in different scenarios, and applying appropriate weightages

Anyways, let's begin..

LTB

Low:
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Unknown, right girl

Mid:
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Unknown, looks like a girl @SecularIslamist would goon over

High:
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Sorry @Looks over NT

MTB

Low:
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From @Daddy's Home thread

Mid:
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StrawberryTabby

High:
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Sophie Rain

HTB

Low:
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Melissa Fuentes

Mid:
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Unknown

High:
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Jessica Alba

Stacylite

Low:
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Dove Cameron

Mid:
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Unknown

High:
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Narcy Tiktokker, left girl

Stacy

Low:
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Loli Bahia

Mid:
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Taylor Hill

High:
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Hyper-Fogger, name?


After this is PSL Icon and then Terrastacy tier.
I'll cover these in another thread.


I must admit, I have told you all 1 lie though.
One of these unknown girls I DO know. It was the Mid HTB:
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Her name is Erika Saraceni. This is another pic of her:
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I have noticed that variance in looks is higher with girls and guys who are higher PSL (exponentially rarer = harder to maintain) + rely on features/harmony over bones:
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Too many shit raters
Proceeds to give shit rating:
 
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There's too many shit raters.
This will be a rating for PSL ✅
Not Appeal ❌
Not Genes (completely dependent on race) ❌

Rating these specific pictures ✅
Not
the person ❌

This PSL Rating is to measure aesthetics. I use the following rarities:
HTB entry: top 15%, 1/6
Stacylite entry: top 1%, 1/100
Stacy entry: top 0.05%, 1/2000


To understand the rarity:
HTB is on average most aesthetic in a small group of friends, Stacylite is top 1-2 most aesthetic girls in your year group, Stacy is most aesthetic in 2 schools of just women

Unlike other threads where somebody will show 1 picture and rate the individual entirely on it, I'm going to be rating the pictures.
It's up to 🫵 to form the right informed judgement, by taking into account multiple pictures from different angles, in different scenarios, and applying appropriate weightages

Anyways, let's begin..

LTB

Low:
View attachment 4192754
Unknown, right girl

Mid:
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Unknown, looks like a girl @SecularIslamist would goon over

High:
View attachment 4192963
Sorry @Looks over NT

MTB

Low:
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From @Daddy's Home thread

Mid:
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StrawberryTabby

High:
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Sophie Rain

HTB

Low:
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Melissa Fuentes

Mid:
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Unknown

High:
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Jessica Alba

Stacylite

Low:
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Dove Cameron

Mid:
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Unknown

High:
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Narcy Tiktokker, left girl

Stacy

Low:
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Loli Bahia

Mid:
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Taylor Hill

High:
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Hyper-Fogger, name?


After this is PSL Icon and then Terrastacy tier.
I'll cover these in another thread.


I must admit, I have told you all 1 lie though.
One of these unknown girls I DO know. It was the Mid HTB:
View attachment 4193823

Her name is Erika Saraceni. This is another pic of her:
View attachment 4192963

I have noticed that variance in looks is higher with girls and guys who are higher PSL (exponentially rarer = harder to maintain) + rely on features/harmony over bones:
View attachment 4196171
This doesn’t matter at all,

Half of the people are truecels and the other half is gay
 
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Subhuman - LTB - MTB - HTB - Stacylite - Stacy - Minecraft Steve Head - Horse Face - Perfection 👑 Unmoggable 👑 Almost AI Generated

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wtf i didn't even notice the high ltb that's a horrid rate greycel wtf
 
oh nvm i didn't read this thread
 
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There's too many shit raters.
This will be a rating for PSL ✅
Not Appeal ❌
Not Genes (completely dependent on race) ❌

Rating these specific pictures ✅
Not
the person ❌

This PSL Rating is to measure aesthetics. I use the following rarities:
HTB entry: top 15%, 1/6
Stacylite entry: top 1%, 1/100
Stacy entry: top 0.05%, 1/2000


To understand the rarity:
HTB is on average most aesthetic in a small group of friends, Stacylite is top 1-2 most aesthetic girls in your year group, Stacy is most aesthetic in 2 schools of just women

Unlike other threads where somebody will show 1 picture and rate the individual entirely on it, I'm going to be rating the pictures.
It's up to 🫵 to form the right informed judgement, by taking into account multiple pictures from different angles, in different scenarios, and applying appropriate weightages

Anyways, let's begin..

LTB

Low:
View attachment 4192754
Unknown, right girl

Mid:
View attachment 4193113
Unknown, looks like a girl @SecularIslamist would goon over

High:
View attachment 4192963
Sorry @Looks over NT

MTB

Low:
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From @Daddy's Home thread

Mid:
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StrawberryTabby

High:
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Sophie Rain

HTB

Low:
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Melissa Fuentes

Mid:
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Unknown

High:
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Jessica Alba

Stacylite

Low:
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Dove Cameron

Mid:
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Unknown

High:
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Narcy Tiktokker, left girl

Stacy

Low:
View attachment 4195694
Loli Bahia

Mid:
View attachment 4196467
Taylor Hill

High:
View attachment 4193997
Hyper-Fogger, name?


After this is PSL Icon and then Terrastacy tier.
I'll cover these in another thread.


I must admit, I have told you all 1 lie though.
One of these unknown girls I DO know. It was the Mid HTB:
View attachment 4193823

Her name is Erika Saraceni. This is another pic of her:
View attachment 4192963

I have noticed that variance in looks is higher with girls and guys who are higher PSL (exponentially rarer = harder to maintain) + rely on features/harmony over bones:
View attachment 4196171
I would just swap places between mid ltb and mid mtb
 
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View attachment 4194007

There's too many shit raters.
This will be a rating for PSL ✅
Not Appeal ❌
Not Genes (completely dependent on race) ❌

Rating these specific pictures ✅
Not
the person ❌

This PSL Rating is to measure aesthetics. I use the following rarities:
HTB entry: top 15%, 1/6
Stacylite entry: top 1%, 1/100
Stacy entry: top 0.05%, 1/2000


To understand the rarity:
HTB is on average most aesthetic in a small group of friends, Stacylite is top 1-2 most aesthetic girls in your year group, Stacy is most aesthetic in 2 schools of just women

Unlike other threads where somebody will show 1 picture and rate the individual entirely on it, I'm going to be rating the pictures.
It's up to 🫵 to form the right informed judgement, by taking into account multiple pictures from different angles, in different scenarios, and applying appropriate weightages

Anyways, let's begin..

LTB

Low:
View attachment 4192754
Unknown, right girl

Mid:
View attachment 4193113
Unknown, looks like a girl @SecularIslamist would goon over

High:
View attachment 4192963
Sorry @Looks over NT

MTB

Low:
View attachment 4192884
From @Daddy's Home thread

Mid:
View attachment 4192591
StrawberryTabby

High:
View attachment 4196384
Sophie Rain

HTB

Low:
View attachment 4195657
Melissa Fuentes

Mid:
View attachment 4193823
Unknown

High:
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Jessica Alba

Stacylite

Low:
View attachment 4192826

Dove Cameron

Mid:
View attachment 4196403
Unknown

High:
View attachment 4192754
Narcy Tiktokker, left girl

Stacy

Low:
View attachment 4195694
Loli Bahia

Mid:
View attachment 4196467
Taylor Hill

High:
View attachment 4193997
Hyper-Fogger, name?


After this is PSL Icon and then Terrastacy tier.
I'll cover these in another thread.


I must admit, I have told you all 1 lie though.
One of these unknown girls I DO know. It was the Mid HTB:
View attachment 4193823

Her name is Erika Saraceni. This is another pic of her:
View attachment 4192963

I have noticed that variance in looks is higher with girls and guys who are higher PSL (exponentially rarer = harder to maintain) + rely on features/harmony over bones:
View attachment 4196171
the mid stacylite is the best looking girl here imo
 
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Agreed. I ask this because a while back I was arguing with a retarded greycel who told me that HTN is rare. I said for every 10 (prime aged) men you'll find one or two HTNs (so between 10-20%) and niggas were saying that I'm tripping :hnghn:
Yeah htn to tiktokcels is what cl was to us. These retards legit think htn is top 5% or even 1%. When it is supposed to mean someone who is decently above average with either no major flaws + no halos, or with at least one halo + 1-2 failos
 
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Yeah htn to tiktokcels is what cl was to us. These retards legit think htn is top 5% or even 1%. When it is supposed to mean someone who is decently above average with either no major flaws + no halos, or with at least one halo + 1-2 failos
htn is 5%tile
 
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htn is 5%tile
yeah to tiktokcels nigga. oldfag system makes more sense because it's actually based on irl perception (repulsive, unattractive, average, decent looking, attractive, slayer) instead of arbitrary percentages and intentional lowballing for ego reasons
 
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