What makes white people so gerontomorphic?

[Prettyboy]

It’s widely accepted that East Asians are the most neotenous of all, but based on the Out of Africa model, one would intuitively think Sub Saharan Africans would be the opposite, the most mature looking while Europeans would be sandwiched between them as with a myriad of traits

But its not the case, Europeans look more gerontomorphic than Africans

Is it because of Neandarthal admixture among Europeans? SS Africans are the purest, unmixed homo sapiens, but then again Asians also intermixed with another human like species and they are very neotenous

Tagging resident anthropologists for insights
@TsarTsar444 @cloUder @anoright

 

[Deleted member 25198]

I didn't understand a single word blud

 

[Deleted member 29710]

It’s widely accepted that East Asians are the most neotenous of all, but based on the Out of Africa model, one would intuitively think Sub Saharan Africans would be the opposite, the most mature looking while Europeans would be sandwiched between them as with a myriad of traits

But its not the case, Europeans look more gerontomorphic than Africans

Is it because of Neandarthal admixture among Europeans? SS Africans are the purest, unmixed homo sapiens, but then again Asians also intermixed with another human like species and they are very neotenous

Tagging resident anthropologists for insights
@TsarTsar444 @cloUder @anoright

'Ghost' ancestors: African DNA study detects mysterious human species

Scientists examining the genomes of West Africans have detected signs that a mysterious extinct human species interbred with our own species tens of thousands of years ago in Africa, the latest evidence of humankind's complicated genetic ancestry.

www.reuters.com

20% nonhuman btw "purest homo sapiens"

 

[Deleted member 13787]

East asians have more neanderthal and denisovan dna, so that's not it.

 

[TsarTsar444]

SS africans do have some neanderthal dna as well, around 1% on average compared to 2.5% for most Europeans. Asians also have same percentage wise dna share for denisovan

 

[Deleted member 13787]

'Ghost' ancestors: African DNA study detects mysterious human species

Scientists examining the genomes of West Africans have detected signs that a mysterious extinct human species interbred with our own species tens of thousands of years ago in Africa, the latest evidence of humankind's complicated genetic ancestry.

www.reuters.com

20% nonhuman btw "purest homo sapiens"

the avg was 6% IIRC and that's for some west african bantus.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

East asians have more neanderthal and denisovan dna, so that's not it.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Blacks look more masculine imo

 

[thickdickdaddy27]

no neandarthal blood in me thank the heavens

 

[zharupodrugu]

East Asians dont chew their food. They just suck noodles and eat some rice. Thats why their faces are so undeveloped

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Non-caucasoid male and females look similar. It's caucasians who show the most dimorphism

 

[Deleted member 29710]

Blacks look more masculine imo

 

[Deleted member 9003]

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Don’t care about this. There’s a reason black girls are masculinized.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Blacks look more masculine imo

Not even close, africans always look so chill and non threatening to me, like i would like to just strike a random convo with them and be bros. When i see some poles, i feel my adrenaline rise up like they are going to randomly punch me while we pass by

 

[Deleted member 29710]

Don’t care about this. There’s a reason black girls are masculinized.

Black women didn't agree with black men being more masculine themselves, that's why they rode BWC lmao.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

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Black women didn't agree with black men being more masculine themselves, that's why they rode BWC lmao.

What

 

[Deleted member 28904]

Blacks look more masculine imo

 

[Deleted member 9003]

Not even close, africans always look so chill and non threatening to me, like i would like to just strike a random convo with them and be bros. When i see some poles, i feel my adrenaline rise up like they are going to randomly punch me while we pass by

Yea Balkan ogres probably are the most masculine

 

[Deleted member 29710]

What

More than 1/5 of African American paternal lineages are European. Literally 0 of Euro-American lineages were African.

 

[RetardSubhuman]

Yea Balkan ogres probably are the most masculine

BBC's like ngannou and bob sapp are the most masculine

 

[Deleted member 9003]

More than 1/5 of African American paternal lineages are European. Literally 0 of Euro-American lineages were African.

Ye cus they rpd them. Why does that matter tho when white girls are riding bbc rn

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Amerindians have both Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical features

It’s amazing that so many people were so credulous and so stupid that they actually believed David Reich et al. when they proclaimed that Nordics are Caucasoid-Mongoloid hybrids. All of the b…

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"A fourth pattern in the data is that the frequencies of several traits that characterize Mongoloids decrease with age, while the frequencies of the opposite traits, which characterize Caucasoids, increase with age. Specifically, the frequencies of wide intercanthus distance, flat nasal bridge, and the epicanthic eyefold, all characteristic of Mongoloids, decrease with age. The frequencies of narrow intercanthus distance, high nasal bridge, and the absence of the epicanthic eyefold, all characteristic of Caucasoids, increase with age.

This confirms the observation that has been made by many anthropologists many times before, that Mongoloids are the most pedomorphic of the three major races. Negroids are the second most pedomorphic, and Caucasoids are the least pedomorphic. Among Caucasoids, Mediterraneans are more pedomorphic than Nordics. Veddoids are more pedomorphic than Mediterraneans.

A fifth pattern in the data is that the frequencies of wide intercanthus distance and flat nasal bridge, both characteristic of Mongoloids, tend to be higher in females than in males. This is consistent with the idea that Mongoloids are the most feminized of the three major races.

Both Negroids and Mongoloids have low nasal bridges, while a high nasal bridge is a characteristically Caucasoid trait."

 

[TsarTsar444]

Yea Balkan ogres probably are the most masculine

One of the reason i feel uncomfortable walking outside is because of how deranged and angry guys faces look even if they are completely friendly in reality and mean no harm, when i went on a trip to Spain with majority city being indians and blacks i felt super chill cause everyone looked friendly naturally

 

[Deleted member 29710]

Ye cus they rpd them. Why does that matter tho when white girls are riding bbc rn

This is consistent even among African-Americans in the North where they weren't enslaved. In fact, northern Blacks typically have more European blood than southern Blacks.

Anyways, obligatory

 

[TsarTsar444]

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They all look like favgots tbhs

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Don’t care about this. There’s a reason black girls are masculinized.

White girls are more masculine.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

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@cloUder @

@anoright

None of these people actually have any knowledge

 

[ORW2]

It’s widely accepted that East Asians are the most neotenous of all, but based on the Out of Africa model, one would intuitively think Sub Saharan Africans would be the opposite, the most mature looking while Europeans would be sandwiched between them as with a myriad of traits

But its not the case, Europeans look more gerontomorphic than Africans

Is it because of Neandarthal admixture among Europeans? SS Africans are the purest, unmixed homo sapiens, but then again Asians also intermixed with another human like species and they are very neotenous

Tagging resident anthropologists for insights
@TsarTsar444 @cloUder @anoright

honestly neoteny is kind of a cope when you realize even kids or teens of other races have different qualities to each other, i'm guessing what you mean by ''geronthomorphic'' is just having less rounded features, white children are somewhat sharper than asian or black kids too, but it's less noticeable than in adults ofc.

other than, thinner skin makes the skin starts to look rough faster.

though, whites or caucasoids have some neotenous features like lighter skin and hair + comparatively round or large eyes.

 

[ORW2]

I didn't understand a single word blud

he's basically saying why do whites look older

 

[ORW2]

Blacks look more masculine imo

masculine=/=old necessarily

tho, i disagree blacks look masc necessarily

 

[Deleted member 9003]

This is consistent even among African-Americans in the North where they weren't enslaved. In fact, northern Blacks typically have more European blood than southern Blacks.

Anyways, obligatory

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[Deleted member 13787]

honestly neoteny is kind of a cope when you realize even kids or teens of other races have different qualities to each other, i'm guessing what you mean by ''geronthomorphic'' is just having less rounded features, white children are somewhat sharper than asian or black kids too, but it's less noticeable than in adults ofc.

other than, thinner skin makes the skin starts to look rough faster.

though, whites or caucasoids have some neotenous features like lighter skin and hair + comparatively round or large eyes.

Large eyes are not neotenous. Skin lightens as we age and during puberty.

Neanderthals and abos have the biggest eyes, bigger than even caucasoids. They are not feminine/neotenous in any way, ofc.

 

[ORW2]

black

Don’t care about this. There’s a reason black girls are masculinized.

black girls aren't masculinized biologically, abyssmal obesity rates, bad hair type, dark skin, being in ghetto areas, etc. are the reasons why their smv is low, in europe, wmbf is somewhat higher than it is in america due to black foids here being not as fat

 

[Prettyboy]

Not even close, africans always look so chill and non threatening to me, like i would like to just strike a random convo with them and be bros. When i see some poles, i feel my adrenaline rise up like they are going to randomly punch me while we pass by

One of the reason i feel uncomfortable walking outside is because of how deranged and angry guys faces look even if they are completely friendly in reality and mean no harm, when i went on a trip to Spain with majority city being indians and blacks i felt super chill cause everyone looked friendly naturally

For real tho, I ve grown up in some homogenous place so I only knew about people what media had told me , so I automatically assumed black people alwAys chimp out, easily lose temper etc

But in reality Africans students at my university are by far the chillest ngl. Friendly, high energy, direct etc

While Slavs living in the neighbouring countries are super tense ngl. Especially Serbs, its cortisol inducing to walk among them because they look like they would want to fight at every moment

+ also Asians in college behave like robots, cold, unfriendly. Not one of them I could get along with, I always feel like there’s an invisible wall between us (like with aspies)

 

[ORW2]

Large eyes are not neotenous. Skin lightens as we age and during puberty.

Neanderthals and abos have the biggest eyes, bigger than even caucasoids. They are not feminine/neotenous in any way, ofc.

not all neotenous traits are ''feminine'' a flat chest is neotenous but opposite of femininity.

babies and elderly people have lighter skin than teenagers and adults, but it darkens just as much if not more in female puberty.

 

[inceI]

Skin lightens as we age and during puberty.

cope.

"Through puberty, the skin of children progressively darkens with no differences between sexes prior to adolescence"

The brightness dimension as a marker of gender across cultures and age

Universally, female skin color is lighter than male skin color, irrespective of geographical location. This difference is a distinctive and universal adaptive pattern that emerges after puberty. We address whether this sexual dimorphism is cognitively ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Large eyes are not neotenous. Skin lightens as we age and during puberty.

Neanderthals and abos have the biggest eyes, bigger than even caucasoids. They are not feminine/neotenous in any way, ofc.

Babies have small eyes with an epicanthic fold, babies of all races tend to have asian eyes:

 

[TsarTsar444]

While Slavs living in the neighbouring countries are super tense ngl. Especially Serbs, its cortisol inducing to walk among them because they look like they would want to fight at every moment

Yeah this exactly, if im walking alone and and see a group of rural slavcels or albos walking buy i get so tensed up like im walking pass a pack od rabbid dogs, and it has nothing to do with their action, just their phenotype, like they sre always angry about something.

Most feminine balkan female face

 

[ORW2]

cope.

"Through puberty, the skin of children progressively darkens with no differences between sexes prior to adolescence"

The brightness dimension as a marker of gender across cultures and age

Universally, female skin color is lighter than male skin color, irrespective of geographical location. This difference is a distinctive and universal adaptive pattern that emerges after puberty. We address whether this sexual dimorphism is cognitively ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

while skin color and hair color is def correalated with aging, it being correalated with gender is a myth: lations because women must get enough vitamin D and calcium to support the development of fetus and nursing infants and to maintain their own health.[7] However, in some populations such as in Italy, Poland, Ireland, Spain and Portugal men are found to have fairer complexions, and this has been ascribed as a cause to increased melanoma risk in men.[85][86] Similarly, studies done in the late 19th Century/early 20th Century in Europe also conflicted with the notion at least in regards to Northern Europeans. The studies found that in England women tend to have darker hair, eyes, and skin complexation than men, and in particular women darken in relation to men during puberty.[87] A study in Germany during this period showed that German men were more likely to have lighter skin, blond hair, and lighter eyes, while German women had darker hair, eyes and skin tone on average.[88]

neoteny or lower signs of maturity can be a sign of femininity for some features, but it isn't always like that.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

black

black girls aren't masculinized biologically, abyssmal obesity rates, bad hair type, dark skin, being in ghetto areas, etc. are the reasons why their smv is low, in europe, wmbf is somewhat higher than it is in america due to black foids here being not as fat

Bruh it’s common knowledge black girls are masculinized just like Asian guys are emasculated

 

[Deleted member 13787]

cope.

"Through puberty, the skin of children progressively darkens with no differences between sexes prior to adolescence"

The brightness dimension as a marker of gender across cultures and age

Universally, female skin color is lighter than male skin color, irrespective of geographical location. This difference is a distinctive and universal adaptive pattern that emerges after puberty. We address whether this sexual dimorphism is cognitively ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Next sentence in your study says that it lightens at 14-16

 

[inceI]

Next sentence in your study says that it lightens at 14-16

I left that out on purpose to make my point sound legit.

 

[ORW2]

Bruh it’s common knowledge black girls are masculinized just like Asian guys are emasculated

only used to be the case in modern world with bbc propaganda, the world wasn't always like it was in modern world, xmbf used to be far more common than the reverse fore jewmerica did it's thing.

 

[Prettyboy]

Blacks look more masculine imo

masculine=/=old necessarily

tho, i disagree blacks look masc necessarily

Gerontomorphy/pedomorhpy is not necesarrily about looking masculine rather old / young for your age, thats what OP is about. White people tend to look older at the same age than Asians, who look very neotenous even as adults

 

[ORW2]

Gerontomorphy/pedomorhpy is not necesarrily about looking masculine rather old / young for your age, thats what OP is about. White people tend to look older at the same age than Asians, who look very neotenous even as adults

it's related to thinner skin and less rounded features as i said(which even white children exhibit to some extent compared to non white kids) doesn't really help it when they tan either.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

based on the Out of Africa model, one would intuitively think Sub Saharan Africans would be the opposite, the most mature looking while Europeans would be sandwiched between them as with a myriad of traits

Or maybe europeans diverged in the opposite direction, towards retaining more gerontomorphic features. Abos retained even more.

 

[Deleted member 29710]

Bruh it’s common knowledge black girls are masculinized just like Asian guys are emasculated

The historical trend is for lighter males to outcompete and outbreed darker males. The vast majority of Eurasian admixture in sub-Saharan Africa is male-mediated. Light features are masculine.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

Gerontomorphy/pedomorhpy is not necesarrily about looking masculine rather old / young for your age, thats what OP is about. White people tend to look older at the same age than Asians, who look very neotenous even as adults

Gerontomorphy and neoteny are aspects of dimorphism. When you see conflicting traits, like flat chests being more neotenous than big breasts, actual signs of pure fertility (and not fertility based on young age) like breasts overpower the more neotenous flat chest trait.

 

[ORW2]

it's related to thinner skin and less rounded features as i said(which even white children exhibit to some extent compared to non white kids) doesn't really help it when they tan either.

regarding the sharper bones point, let me ilusttrate with this thing, pearlythings has a more sharp face with thinner skin compared to this dude who has very rounded features