Lol at this ..read aristotle and stoics if u deprived of meaning
All of nietzsche ideas are borrowed from thinker before him.
Well I suppose philosophy can be viewed genealogically. Thinkers built on their predecessors, discarded some of their ideas, reinforced some, mutated some, etc.
if op is seeking the "meaning of life" and shit then philosophy is going to lead him down a dead end. doesn't matter who he reads, it'll only help him explain his misery to others more eloquently lol
Amor fati, eternal reccurance etc all these ideas are borrowed from ancient stoics ..nihlism be it of meaning or morals is also not a new concept
A lot of philosophers have life affirming philosophies. Nietzsche and Camus for example. I actually like Peterson tbh.
Existentialism is literally a new concept in the history of philosophy muh "doesnt matter who u read it will make u a nihlist"
AF & ER some of his less interesting ideas. The latter is a bit superstitious.
I never said he was a nihlist..he was an existentialist
yeah those are the copers btw. i only read nietzche's genealogy it's good, but as far as meaning of life goes, philosophy is just speculation. kant's critique was the last bit of philosophy i read that made me realize no one really knows wtf is going on. i tried to cope with peterson lectures for a bit after that before finally surrendering myself to eastern spirituality which is the only non-cope way forward.
Oh ok. What you said above made it sound like you attributed nihilism to FN.
existentialism is mental gymnastics for the coping brain.
Plz explain how it's cope.
He was nihlist in the sense he didnt believed that there were objective morality or objective meaning..he wss existentialist in the sense that he encoureges people to built their own meaning and morals different from the established dogma
Yes I get that. he starts with nihilism and ends up with existentialism if we are speaking informally as some can see strict and precise definitions to these terms that FN does not fit cleanly. (he pre-dates the existential movement so if you want to speak strictly he is not an existentialist and he is not a nihilist because nihilism implies an absolute disbelief of the existence of objective meaning and any ability to formulate it.)
U in the existentialist gang or aristotles gang?
its impossible to logically explain why we exist, the right way to exist etc. not thru philosophy and not thru science. its a very intuitive concept given we're hoping to use our brain to explain the universe, when the former is itself a product of the latter. afaik most "Existentialists" acknowledge this so by definition anything they philosophize is cope. have you read any kant?
Leaning more existentialist. I respect the greeks but their thinking is quite faith driven and based on sometimes presumptuous assumptions that are just taken for granted.
Read hitler
The Philosophy which is on .org threads
I have read some of his stuff. I think like any other philosopher he posits interesting ideas about thought (priori vs posteriori, phenomena and noumena which is reminiscent of Plato a lil bit) and morality (deontology) but I would not base my understanding of reality on his teachings. I guess when you read some of these guys' work you shouldn't expect an answer to everything but just some thought provoking ideas that can get you thinking.
thought-provoking was never why i was interested in philosophy tbh. i remember the first time i did psychedelics blew my mind wide open to the possibility of reality being something completely different from what i had grown up "thinking". there were so many questions - a never ending chain of whys to be posed as counter questions and always a final why that couldn't be answered. i had naively hoped philosophers had worked out some answers, but as i said kant's critique, schopenhauer's will to live i think and nietszche's genealogy were the only books i completed, all without any answers to the root question.
Let me eat some mushrooms and report back.
How many hours spent learning greeks until I can progress to nietzshce? I don't really care for actually learning philosophy in the proper chronological way but if you think it's necessary then i will.
I've been circlejerking in my own head about how life is mainly just dopaminergic - how good your experience here is, is determined by positive feedback, social success, also long term goals etc
ELLIOT RODGER MANIFESTO: MY TWISTED WORLD. Good luck
Oh well just read Nietzsche then.
