What seperates those who ascended from those of didn't?

[positiveloop]

What qualities and characteristics are present in those of have managed to achieve ascension, that are lacking in those who couldn't in your opinion?

 

[marek937]

baseline lvl, discipline to leanmaxx, gymmax, money

 

[positiveloop]

baseline lvl

Nah, many people who ascended started at a very low level, while surpassing others with a higher baseline that are still stuck

 

[bradpittshairline]

Nah, many people who ascended started at a very low level, while surpassing others with a higher baseline that are still stuck

i think they hardmaxxed their falio and softmaxxed average or halo features

 

[Gandy]

Low inhibition vs. high inhibition. If you have money for substances or surgeries but don't get them, that is the only dividing factor.

People are scared of pain in surgery. People are scared of putting unknown research chemicals into their body.
Some people just chicken out at the last second even after they have booked a consultation or surgery with a plastic surgeon.

For me, an overall nihilistic overlook on life / not really caring whether I live or die greatly lowered my inhibition to the point I could take any amount of pain. That allowed me to book surgeries, order illegal substances and go ahead with my plans instead of just allowing them to remain as plans that never come to life.

I think a lot of people who abuse PED's, steroids and get surgeries are depressed due to body image issues. This greatly lowers their inhibition compared to the average Joe who wont even buy a gym card because he thinks he is going to turn into Ronnie Coleman in a month of lifting iron. The average 'layman' is very high inhibition and scared of change and risk.

 

[positiveloop]

Low inhibition vs. high inhibition. If you have money for substances or surgeries but don't get them, that is the only dividing factor.

People are scared of pain in surgery. People are scared of putting unknown research chemicals into their body.
Some people just chicken out at the last second even after they have booked a consultation or surgery with a plastic surgeon.

For me, an overall nihilistic overlook on life / not really caring whether I live or die greatly lowered my inhibition to the point I could take any amount of pain. That allowed me to book surgeries, order illegal substances and go ahead with my plans instead of just allowing them to remain as plans that never come to life.

I think a lot of people who abuse PED's, steroids and get surgeries are depressed due to body image issues. This greatly lowers their inhibition compared to the average Joe who wont even buy a gym card because he thinks he is going to turn into Ronnie Coleman in a month of lifting iron. The average 'layman' is very high inhibition and scared of change and risk.

Very interesting, glad for you.
But what about those who ascended naturally?

 

[longjohnmong]

But what about those who ascended naturally?

What the fuck are you even talking about?

 

[RedRiser]

Taking high risks.

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Low inhibition vs. high inhibition. If you have money for substances or surgeries but don't get them, that is the only dividing factor.

People are scared of pain in surgery. People are scared of putting unknown research chemicals into their body.
Some people just chicken out at the last second even after they have booked a consultation or surgery with a plastic surgeon.

For me, an overall nihilistic overlook on life / not really caring whether I live or die greatly lowered my inhibition to the point I could take any amount of pain. That allowed me to book surgeries, order illegal substances and go ahead with my plans instead of just allowing them to remain as plans that never come to life.

I think a lot of people who abuse PED's, steroids and get surgeries are depressed due to body image issues. This greatly lowers their inhibition compared to the average Joe who wont even buy a gym card because he thinks he is going to turn into Ronnie Coleman in a month of lifting iron. The average 'layman' is very high inhibition and scared of change and risk.

Preach.

Even before looksmaxxing I was not risk averse. I was adventurous and foolhardy

As soon as I identified my failos I booked the surgeries and got them done : 4 in 6 months, no time wasted