What specifically should I ask for regarding jaw surgery

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Have a consultation scheduled with Valerio Ramieri (worried about Raffaini/Pagnoni being over aggressive/unnatural). Was thinking bimax with CCW and genio + rhino. I also have an issue where my jaw looks ok (not great) in certain lighting/angles but horrendous in others so I don’t want to do anything too drastic as I’m worried it will look unnatural especially with my already unusual face structure. Would implants help as well or would that just look unnatural? Also what about buccal fat removal? My jaw is shaped really weirdly so I feel like implants might not look good. I tried to include a lot of photos both good and bad
 

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Damn you look different in each picture...
Its hard to say anything 100% for me, but good luck with the surgety bro
 
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Here’s some more photos. I think maybe shaving down part of jaw as well might help shape it better?
 

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You are downgrown.

It should be fairly obvious that you need a rotational bimax.

I do not see the need for implants.
 
You are downgrown.

It should be fairly obvious that you need a rotational bimax.

I do not see the need for implants.
I’m also worried that a rotational bimax will make my lower third too long as my face is already really long. Whenever I try morphing my face to simulate bimax most of the time I think the result looks bad and unnatural especially when my lower third gets longer. But then again I am not a surgeon and have no idea how to properly morph my face to simulate surgery. I think I have a really unorthodox face due to being half asian and getting a weird mix of features and I’m worried that changing anything could make me look really bad
 
something about midface and lipolysis/buccal fat removal and bring jaw slightly forward

lefort 1+lipolysis+very moderate rhino+bimax?
 
Might throw in brow bone + forehead implants as well. Hopefully will look something like this in the end
 

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This is what happens when you race-mix. I'm being serious btw. If you were not a hapa, it would be much easier to tell if you could benefit from jaw surgery.
 
This is what happens when you race-mix. I'm being serious btw. If you were not a hapa, it would be much easier to tell if you could benefit from jaw surgery.
I know and that’s why I’m worried because I feel like surgery, even just unreccessing my jaw could make me look worse and unnatural
 
Have a consultation scheduled with Valerio Ramieri (worried about Raffaini/Pagnoni being over aggressive/unnatural). Was thinking bimax with CCW and genio + rhino. I also have an issue where my jaw looks ok (not great) in certain lighting/angles but horrendous in others so I don’t want to do anything too drastic as I’m worried it will look unnatural especially with my already unusual face structure. Would implants help as well or would that just look unnatural? Also what about buccal fat removal? My jaw is shaped really weirdly so I feel like implants might not look good. I tried to include a lot of photos both good and bad
i swear i seen u post ur face ok the mewing reddit a couple years ago did u grow out ur hair
 
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i swear i seen u post ur face ok the mewing reddit a couple years ago did u grow out ur hair
Yeah I saw his face there too. His face looks familiar, have also seen it on here more.
 
Here’s some more photos. I think maybe shaving down part of jaw as well might help shape it better?
hey bro im a hapa too jst curious do u hate being mixxed or nah
 
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You maxilla looks good to my eye tbh you just have minor retrognathia but you are still goodlooking.

Imo you only need lower jaw surgery.
 
Have a consultation scheduled with Valerio Ramieri (worried about Raffaini/Pagnoni being over aggressive/unnatural). Was thinking bimax with CCW and genio + rhino. I also have an issue where my jaw looks ok (not great) in certain lighting/angles but horrendous in others so I don’t want to do anything too drastic as I’m worried it will look unnatural especially with my already unusual face structure. Would implants help as well or would that just look unnatural? Also what about buccal fat removal? My jaw is shaped really weirdly so I feel like implants might not look good. I tried to include a lot of photos both good and bad
Bimax and ccw don't get rhino it's gay + if you have forwardly grown face Long nose doesn't look long at all
 
hey bro im a hapa too jst curious do u hate being mixxed or nah
Well I’m just glad I’m not full Asian. Don’t hate being mixed but wish i looked more white. Out of most of the other half Asians I know I look the most Asian. My brother looks way more white than me but then he’s only like 5’9” so I got unlucky with the race genes but lucky with the height genes.
 
i swear i seen u post ur face ok the mewing reddit a couple years ago did u grow out ur hair
Yeah I grew it out and permed it. I used to be post all over reddit but I got banned from most of the subs I used
 
Bimax and ccw don't get rhino it's gay + if you have forwardly grown face Long nose doesn't look long at all
I’m gonna get a rhino which is mostly to get rid of the bulbous tip with some very slight bridge refinement. Also my forward growth is not good. Maybe good for an Asian but it’s still pretty flat
 
You look like italian+asian mix
 

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