What surgeries do i need to fix my midface

[enlightful]

Muh..Muh.. let me use my incisor to fix my gentics jfl. Yea bro go ahead and insicor chew like jester Patel said

dude really thinks chewing using incisor chewing can fix genetics

Low iq retards like you have no clue how far you can geniunely get with softmaxxing

Keep seething tho

 

[enlightful]

It's actually a greycel take to suggest you can change your underlying facial structure without surgery lol

Muh chewing with premolars is gonna give you CCW. Like holy fuck the cope

You think its cope cause you're retarded like 90% of "blackpilled" tiktokcels who call everything cope as frequently as Lana Rhodes taking dick

Stay stupid, hopefully the thousands you'll throw down the drain for pointless hardmaxxing will make up for it

 

[geloo]

No, surgeons will do anything to fix it, even it isnt aesthetically pleasing, thats the problem of asking your surgeon, you need to make it CLEAR every step, if your jaw is recessed, all hes gonna do is bring it forward, but its gonna look weird compared to the rest of the face for example

you have a mouth and you can say no to procedures you don’t want and advise other procedures. If they deny your suggestions you find another surgeon.

 

[geloo]

Low iq retards like you have no clue how far you can geniunely get with softmaxxing

Keep seething tho

you have yet to tell us a method that is proven to make noticable change.

 

[enlightful]

you have yet to tell us a method that is proven to make noticable change.

I already gave out methods

And if youre salty that I only said they could possibly work then cry me a fucking river.

 

[geloo]

I already gave out methods

And if youre salty that I only said they could possibly work then cry me a fucking river.

that’s right, possibly. “Greycel take” lol

 

[Ali7]

Low iq retards like you have no clue how far you can geniunely get with softmaxxing

Keep seething tho

Another retard who believes anything he sees online moreover on TikTok Your brain dead. You didn’t even know this existed until a few months ago. This is a basic othrodontics 101

Send me one published paper that proves “incisor chewing” can fix a long midface

I’m waiting

 

[zemult]

You think its cope cause you're retarded like 90% of "blackpilled" tiktokcels who call everything cope as frequently as Lana Rhodes taking dick

Stay stupid, hopefully the thousands you'll throw down the drain for pointless hardmaxxing will make up for it

You can think of talking to me when you give a singular piece of evidence that supports what you're claiming even a little bit

Unfortunately that's not possible because your only reference for this is schizophrenic incel theorists taking pictures of themselves at different angles and convincing themselves that something changed, not even CBCT scans or anything that displays a bone change lol

Chewing on your premolars is going to keep you a subhuman unfortunately, there will be no "CCW rotation" fairy putting it below your pillow at night. You'll never be able to prove me wrong and you know it, keeping this argument going just shows your extremely low IQ. I'm literally trying to help you here, morons like you are the ones buying hard mewing courses from Salludon or whatever braindead shit is out there

 

[Joaquin]

You can think of talking to me when you give a singular piece of evidence that supports what you're claiming even a little bit

Unfortunately that's not possible because your only reference for this is schizophrenic incel theorists taking pictures of themselves at different angles and convincing themselves that something changed, not even CBCT scans or anything that displays a bone change lol

Chewing on your premolars is going to keep you a subhuman unfortunately, there will be no "CCW rotation" fairy putting it below your pillow at night. You'll never be able to prove me wrong and you know it, keeping this argument going just shows your extremely low IQ. I'm literally trying to help you here, morons like you are the ones buying hard mewing courses from Salludon or whatever braindead shit is out there

Dude you can change your midface ratio naturally if you are trully downgrown

 

[zemult]

Dude you can change your midface ratio naturally if you are trully downgrown

True just some incisor chewing and thumb pulling, then the bones will start shifting

 

[Joaquin]

True just some incisor chewing and thumb pulling, then the bones will start shifting

You want me to send to you my transformation ?

 

[enlightful]

that’s right, possibly. “Greycel take” lol

Not what a greycel take is

 

[enlightful]

Another retard who believes anything he sees online moreover on TikTok Your brain dead. You didn’t even know this existed until a few months ago. This is a basic othrodontics 101

Send me one published paper that proves “incisor chewing” can fix a long midface

I’m waiting

Doubt me all u want idc

Js dont seethe when I get natty results and you go into debt hardmaxxing cause u thought it was the only way

 

[enlightful]

You can think of talking to me when you give a singular piece of evidence that supports what you're claiming even a little bit

Unfortunately that's not possible because your only reference for this is schizophrenic incel theorists taking pictures of themselves at different angles and convincing themselves that something changed, not even CBCT scans or anything that displays a bone change lol

Chewing on your premolars is going to keep you a subhuman unfortunately, there will be no "CCW rotation" fairy putting it below your pillow at night. You'll never be able to prove me wrong and you know it, keeping this argument going just shows your extremely low IQ. I'm literally trying to help you here, morons like you are the ones buying hard mewing courses from Salludon or whatever braindead shit is out there

I mean if you wanna doubt me go ahead, you go have fun loosing thousands on hardmaxxing while I keep my money safe and get results

 

[Ali7]

Doubt me all u want idc

Js dont seethe when I get natty results and you go into debt hardmaxxing cause u thought it was the only way

U still didn’t send me one orthrodontic paper btw

Just saying.

 

[zemult]

You want me to send to you my transformation ?

Send your 'transformation' here so everyone can have a quick laugh

 

[zemult]

I mean if you wanna doubt me go ahead, you go have fun loosing thousands on hardmaxxing while I keep my money safe and get results

Good choice to fold

 

[Joaquin]

Send your 'transformation' here so everyone can have a quick laugh

A lot of people have seen it and they asked me for advice .
muhh everything is cope only surgery workssss

 

[idkwhattodo69]

theoreticly can i get my depresor muscles cut through rhino plasty and ge a lip lift to make my midface smaller

 

[jesterz]

Alr so my mom has a long face and i have inherited genes from her (ik it sounds like im coping so hard) my eye are is good my gonial angle is fine my jaw area could be better but not terrible but my midface tho sucks genuinely i have a .92 midface ratio and around a 1.75-1.8 fwhr but im getting mse in a week so i might improve there i want to know if i can do anything to fix it or is it over i accept all types of advice especially surgical

 

[zemult]

A lot of people have seen it and they asked me for advice .
muhh everything is cope only surgery workssss

You're not posting it in this thread, because you know any person with a functioning frontal lobe is going to realize any changes are from puberty or frauded angles.

You are literally 16 years old. 2 years ago you were going through puberty. None of muh thumb pulling or muh inciscor chewing made a difference, you're just a completely unimpressive white boy who grew up. Just like those TikTok transformations where some boy just goes through puberty, uses a more flattering angle, and claims it as hard mewing, you are no different.

Won't be able to prove me wrong unfortunately, it's been multiple comments now and you're just harping on one thing despite no evidence being in your favor whatsoever. Quite Low IQ posting from you ngl.

 

[Joaquin]

You're not posting it in this thread, because you know any person with a functioning frontal lobe is going to realize any changes are from puberty or frauded angles.

You are literally 16 years old. 2 years ago you were going through puberty. None of muh thumb pulling or muh inciscor chewing made a difference, you're just a completely unimpressive white boy who grew up. Just like those TikTok transformations where some boy just goes through puberty, uses a more flattering angle, and claims it as hard mewing, you are no different.

Won't be able to prove me wrong unfortunately, it's been multiple comments now and you're just harping on one thing despite no evidence being in your favor whatsoever. Quite Low IQ posting from you ngl.

-im not even 16 lmao
-I can send you the photos if you want literally 0 distorsion 0 fraud

 

[Joaquin]

You're not posting it in this thread, because you know any person with a functioning frontal lobe is going to realize any changes are from puberty or frauded angles.

You are literally 16 years old. 2 years ago you were going through puberty. None of muh thumb pulling or muh inciscor chewing made a difference, you're just a completely unimpressive white boy who grew up. Just like those TikTok transformations where some boy just goes through puberty, uses a more flattering angle, and claims it as hard mewing, you are no different.

Won't be able to prove me wrong unfortunately, it's been multiple comments now and you're just harping on one thing despite no evidence being in your favor whatsoever. Quite Low IQ posting from you ngl.

Do you know I was a chronic mouthbreather and malnourished and I changed those 2 habits and in 2 years Ive gotten a lot of results right?

 

[Joaquin]

You're not posting it in this thread, because you know any person with a functioning frontal lobe is going to realize any changes are from puberty or frauded angles.

You are literally 16 years old. 2 years ago you were going through puberty. None of muh thumb pulling or muh inciscor chewing made a difference, you're just a completely unimpressive white boy who grew up. Just like those TikTok transformations where some boy just goes through puberty, uses a more flattering angle, and claims it as hard mewing, you are no different.

Won't be able to prove me wrong unfortunately, it's been multiple comments now and you're just harping on one thing despite no evidence being in your favor whatsoever. Quite Low IQ posting from you ngl.

Does puberty gives you a better chin to philtrum, midface ratio, fwhr,tfhwr, facial thirds , 10° more jfa...?

 

[LEFORT17]

Does puberty gives you a better chin to philtrum, midface ratio, fwhr,tfhwr, facial thirds , 10° more jfa...?

its actually crazy that no one besides zemult is telling you how retarded you are. ur either full rage baiting or just an double digit iq subhuman who needs attention

 

[Joaquin]

its actually crazy that no one besides zemult is telling you how retarded you are. ur either full rage baiting or just an double digit iq subhuman who needs attention

If I didnt stopped mouthbreathing I would still be subhuman thats the thing

 

[Joaquin]

its actually crazy that no one besides zemult is telling you how retarded you are. ur either full rage baiting or just an double digit iq subhuman who needs attention

Dude im literally just saying that I was extremely underdeveloped due to enviromental habits and I changed them and my face has improved what is retarded about this holy shit

 

[LEFORT17]

Dude im literally just saying that I was extremely underdeveloped due to enviromental habits and I changed them and my face has improved what is retarded about this holy shit

so you think mewing does that at an age of 14-16

 

[Joaquin]

so you think mewing does that at an age of 14-16

Can I show you my fucking transformation? And im not 16 im 17 and until 15 I was subhuman.

 

[LEFORT17]

Can I show you my fucking transformation? And im not 16 im 17 and until 15 I was subhuman.

send pics

 

[zemult]

Can I show you my fucking transformation? And im not 16 im 17 and until 15 I was subhuman.

Point proven once again

Does puberty gives you a better chin to philtrum, midface ratio, fwhr,tfhwr, facial thirds , 10° more jfa...?

All of these ratios point blank mean nothing, not only have you just proven it's influenced by puberty, but I can guarantee you the conditions of both the before and after pictures are different

Angles, picture distance, all influence how these ratios are. Not to mention jutting, squinting, and everything else that comes from the mentality of insecure incels

Just a poor low IQ tiktokcel, not a single shred of evidence that any of muh gatekept TikTok methods made any changes, just growing up and taking different pictures

Post your 'transformation' (puberty) here so we can have a quick laugh

 

[Joaquin]

You're not posting it in this thread, because you know any person with a functioning frontal lobe is going to realize any changes are from puberty or frauded angles.

You are literally 16 years old. 2 years ago you were going through puberty. None of muh thumb pulling or muh inciscor chewing made a difference, you're just a completely unimpressive white boy who grew up. Just like those TikTok transformations where some boy just goes through puberty, uses a more flattering angle, and claims it as hard mewing, you are no different.

Won't be able to prove me wrong unfortunately, it's been multiple comments now and you're just harping on one thing despite no evidence being in your favor whatsoever. Quite Low IQ posting from you ngl.

its actually crazy that no one besides zemult is telling you how retarded you are. ur either full rage baiting or just an double digit iq subhuman who needs atention

@KeepCopingLads @alix
You guys are aware of how much Ive improved. Is it really all angles and puberty guys??

 

[Joaquin]

Point proven once again


All of these ratios point blank mean nothing, not only have you just proven it's influenced by puberty, but I can guarantee you the conditions of both the before and after pictures are different

Angles, picture distance, all influence how these ratios are. Not to mention jutting, squinting, and everything else that comes from the mentality of insecure incels

Just a poor low IQ tiktokcel, not a single shred of evidence that any of muh gatekept TikTok methods made any changes, just growing up and taking different pictures

Post your 'transformation' (puberty) here so we can have a quick laugh

Not a single molecule retard .
I guess how you breath its cope the diet its cope its all angles an puberty!!

 

[zemult]

@KeepCopingLads @alix
You guys are aware of how much Ive improved. Is it really all angles and puberty guys??

Using random users, 1 with more posts than reps, to corroborate what you're saying instead of just posting the pictures again proves my point further

Not a single molecule retard .
I guess how you breath its cope the diet its cope its all angles an puberty!!

Diet does make an impact but you haven't mentioned if you were fat or not beforehand, that's also another factor.

 

[Joaquin]

Using random users, 1 with more posts than reps, to corroborate what you're saying instead of just posting the pictures again proves my point further


Diet does make an impact but you haven't mentioned if you were fat or not beforehand, that's also another factor.

Ive told you if you want me to send to you the pictures I dont to upload them here.
Yes I was malnourished I barely ate + I was a crhonic mouthbreather my downgrowth was death tier and now its undeniable that it has improved

 

[zemult]

Ive told you if you want me to send to you the pictures I dont to upload them here.
Yes I was malnourished I barely ate + I was a crhonic mouthbreather my downgrowth was death tier and now its undeniable that it has improved

Go ahead then

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Using random users, 1 with more posts than reps, to corroborate what you're saying instead of just posting the pictures again proves my point further


Diet does make an impact but you haven't mentioned if you were fat or not beforehand, that's also another factor.

i can vouch lol

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Yes I was malnourished I barely ate + I was a crhonic mouthbreather my downgrowth was death tier

hey thats me (but remove the malnourishment, not anymore that) (and the day time mouth breathing)

 

[LEFORT17]

i can vouch lol

 

[alix]

Using random users, 1 with more posts than reps, to corroborate what you're saying instead of just posting the pictures again proves my point further

caring about post and reps get a life ur fucking ugly bitch

Just because you’re ugly and think you’ll never change doesn’t mean others can’t.

 

[zemult]

caring about post and reps get a life ur fucking ugly bitch

Just because you’re ugly and think you’ll never change doesn’t mean others can’t.

He sent me the 'transformation' and all my claims were proven.

The reason why you have more posts than reps is because everyone can tell you are low IQ and you make dog shit posts like this one. Just another TikTok retard harping the beliefs of another in an echo chamber.

He was anorexic and not done with puberty, additionally the pictures he had taken to compare before / after had different conditions (head tilt, etc). There could have been facial growth (hard to tell from picture conditions), it makes sense because he's at an age where he can still benefit from better oral habits and taking care of his anorexia. But again this goes back to the original point, if you're already done with puberty, and a normal human, you're not going to make any changes to your face with anything, even surgery may not help you.

 

[alix]

.

He was anorexic and not done with puberty, additionally the pictures he had taken to compare before / after had different conditions (head tilt, etc). There could have been facial growth (hard to tell from picture conditions), it makes sense because he's at an age where he can still benefit from better oral habits and taking care of his anorexia. But again this goes back to the original point, if you're already done with puberty, and a normal human, you're not going to make any changes to your face with anything, even surgery may not help you.

what is this? I am not reading all that

 

[alix]

The reason why you have more posts than reps is because everyone can tell you are low IQ and you make dog shit posts like this one. Just another TikTok retard harping the beliefs of another in an echo chamber.

105 IQ from a IQ test is low iq

It’s low IQ to think that knowing about this shit makes you smart

 

[zemult]

what is this? I am not reading all that

Good choice to fold, I would too.

105 IQ from a IQ test is low iq

It’s low IQ to think that knowing about this shit makes you smart

Nigga bringing up IQ tests just proves my point further you have the intelligence of a disabled child

 

[alix]

Good choice to fold, I would too.


Nigga bringing up IQ tests just proves my point further you have the intelligence of a disabled child

Sure i am low IQ

 

[KeepCopingLads]

if you're already done with puberty, and a normal human, you're not going to make any changes to your face with anything

well no fucking shit

 

[zemult]

well no fucking shit

Well you'd think so, but this whole argument started from a disabled user, suggesting incisor chewing is going to give you the anything close to a CCW Bimax.

So like chewing with premolars, figuring out some kind of custom orthodontic plan that can cause ccw rotation, things of that sort.

If you js wanna ignore any softmax and go straight to blowing thousands on surgery like an idiot then thats your problem not mine.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

suggesting incisor chewing is going to give you the anything close to a CCW Bimax.

cage