What surgeries make sense for me? Been told I have potential

[unaiav25]

I’ve been told I have a decent base and could really ascend with a few surgeries. Let me clarify a few things - this isn’t my natural peak. I’ve been bulking for half a year and sitting at 84kg/186lbs at 6’10, nowhere near a low bodyfat for facial aesthetics, so I’m not fully debloated. I know my hair isn’t great and some may say hop on fin or dutasteridd, but I already have certain health issues that make these drugs too risky for me. I will bide my time and hope a better treatment will eventually become available. In after primarily hardmaxxing surgeries to improve facially.

One unique issue I have is a mild form of vertical optical dystopia (VOD) where one of my eyes sits slightly lower than the other, thus causing eye assymetry. A number of craniofacial surgeons can fix this by using an implant to make the eyes appear more level. I wanted people’s opinions on whether that’s worthwhile whether getting the surgery to make my eyes more symmetrical is necessary. There are other ways my eyes could be improved like fat grafting for the infra & supra orbital region which would benefit my eyes in other ways. It’s just I’m wondering whether the assymetry itself is essential to improving my eyes or I should pursue different surgeries.

Other surgical suggestions welcome. I get suggested a rhinoplasty lot.

Thank you

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Lower eyelid retraction or some infras, fat graft, hair transplant, maybe binax but i would have to see a better side, if bimax is not appropriate then a rhino

 

[Leo]

Lower eyelid retraction or some infras, fat graft, hair transplant, maybe binax but i would have to see a better side, if bimax is not appropriate then a rhino

forehead lowering then rocking the buzzcut or warrior cut is an option aswell, no?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

forehead lowering then rocking the buzzcut or warrior cut is an option aswell, no?

Not in this case as the temples are recceded, otherwise thats an option

 

[unaiav25]

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[PharmaPhaggot]

Also op hop on jxl-069, dutasteride, minoxidil snd ru58841 for like a 6months to a year before you get the hair transplant to wakeup as many dormant folkicles as you can

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

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@jester

Only the 5 first get the ping, you have to tag 5 then make a new message and tag 5 and so on

 

[Taylors_Lil_Ethnic]

I’ve been told I have a decent base and could really ascend with a few surgeries. Let me clarify a few things - this isn’t my natural peak. I’ve been bulking for half a year and sitting at 84kg/186lbs at 6’10, nowhere near a low bodyfat for facial aesthetics, so I’m not fully debloated. I know my hair isn’t great and some may say hop on fin or dutasteridd, but I already have certain health issues that make these drugs too risky for me. I will bide my time and hope a better treatment will eventually become available. In after primarily hardmaxxing surgeries to improve facially.

One unique issue I have is a mild form of vertical optical dystopia (VOD) where one of my eyes sits slightly lower than the other, thus causing eye assymetry. A number of craniofacial surgeons can fix this by using an implant to make the eyes appear more level. I wanted people’s opinions on whether that’s worthwhile whether getting the surgery to make my eyes more symmetrical is necessary. There are other ways my eyes could be improved like fat grafting for the infra & supra orbital region which would benefit my eyes in other ways. It’s just I’m wondering whether the assymetry itself is essential to improving my eyes or I should pursue different surgeries.

Other surgical suggestions welcome. I get suggested a rhinoplasty lot.

Thank you


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Im sorry did you just say 6'10??

 

[bjebb007]

Brother you are 6'10, you'll be fine. I think I have the same thing as you with the eyes, ptosis repair and fat graft helped a lot with that issue, but implants might be better in reality especially if covered by insurance. Easiest for you is to fix your hair

 

[unaiav25]

Brother you are 6'10, you'll be fine. I think I have the same thing as you with the eyes, ptosis repair and fat graft helped a lot with that issue, but implants might be better in reality especially if covered by insurance. Easiest for you is to fix your hair

Haha that meant to say 5’10 lol

Wait do u got those procedures for ur eyes?

 

[snowslayer]

100% he's 6'1 not 6'10 cause nobody bulks to 184 at 6"10 plus his head would be closer to roof of car probably

 

[snowslayer]

Haha that meant to say 5’10 lol

Wait do u got those procedures for ur eyes?

close enough lol i posted my message same time as this mb

 

[unaiav25]

Bump

 

[unaiav25]

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@Soter

@GetSumPuss

@Ogionth

@mohi_100

 

[unaiav25]

@monecel

@jester

 

[unaiav25]

Only the 5 first get the ping, you have to tag 5 then make a new message and tag 5 and so on

Thank you.

Do you know any other users who are knowledgeable with surgeries who could help?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Thank you.

Do you know any other users who are knowledgeable with surgeries who could help?

@thecel @lurking truecel and just go in the lm section then cosmetic surgery section youll find good users

 

[Mochi Force 15]

I’ve been told I have a decent base and could really ascend with a few surgeries. Let me clarify a few things - this isn’t my natural peak. I’ve been bulking for half a year and sitting at 84kg/186lbs at 6’10, nowhere near a low bodyfat for facial aesthetics, so I’m not fully debloated. I know my hair isn’t great and some may say hop on fin or dutasteridd, but I already have certain health issues that make these drugs too risky for me. I will bide my time and hope a better treatment will eventually become available. In after primarily hardmaxxing surgeries to improve facially.

One unique issue I have is a mild form of vertical optical dystopia (VOD) where one of my eyes sits slightly lower than the other, thus causing eye assymetry. A number of craniofacial surgeons can fix this by using an implant to make the eyes appear more level. I wanted people’s opinions on whether that’s worthwhile whether getting the surgery to make my eyes more symmetrical is necessary. There are other ways my eyes could be improved like fat grafting for the infra & supra orbital region which would benefit my eyes in other ways. It’s just I’m wondering whether the assymetry itself is essential to improving my eyes or I should pursue different surgeries.

Other surgical suggestions welcome. I get suggested a rhinoplasty lot.

Thank you


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maybe a rhinoplasty for your crooked nose. other than that you're mostly fine

 

[nishka]

dutasteride, accutane, trt, lip corner lift, lip lift, forehead reduction, tan

i wouldnt recommend posing like this
if you dont have hunter eyes it just feels weird

 

[unaiav25]

Only the 5 first get the ping, you have to tag 5 then make a new message and tag 5 and so on

Thank you.

Do you know any other users who are knowledgeable

dutasteride, accutane, trt, lip corner lift, lip lift, forehead reduction, tan
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i wouldnt recommend posing like this
if you dont have hunter eyes it just feels weird

well that’s why I’m wondering what surgeries would help my eye area? I’m not really posing like anything I’m looking into the camera like what ahaha

 

[jester]

I’ve been told I have a decent base and could really ascend with a few surgeries. Let me clarify a few things - this isn’t my natural peak. I’ve been bulking for half a year and sitting at 84kg/186lbs at 6’10, nowhere near a low bodyfat for facial aesthetics, so I’m not fully debloated. I know my hair isn’t great and some may say hop on fin or dutasteridd, but I already have certain health issues that make these drugs too risky for me. I will bide my time and hope a better treatment will eventually become available. In after primarily hardmaxxing surgeries to improve facially.

One unique issue I have is a mild form of vertical optical dystopia (VOD) where one of my eyes sits slightly lower than the other, thus causing eye assymetry. A number of craniofacial surgeons can fix this by using an implant to make the eyes appear more level. I wanted people’s opinions on whether that’s worthwhile whether getting the surgery to make my eyes more symmetrical is necessary. There are other ways my eyes could be improved like fat grafting for the infra & supra orbital region which would benefit my eyes in other ways. It’s just I’m wondering whether the assymetry itself is essential to improving my eyes or I should pursue different surgeries.

Other surgical suggestions welcome. I get suggested a rhinoplasty lot.

Thank you


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dutasteride+minoxidil (for eyebrows too)
supraorbital fat grafting
grow a beard

 

[unaiav25]

dutasteride+minoxidil (for eyebrows too)
supraorbital fat grafting
grow a beard

Do u know much about vertical optical dystopia? It’s where one of the eyes is higher than the other. Because I have that it can be fixed with an orbital rim implant I’m wondering how much that is affecting my looks.

 

[monecel]

Hair transplant
Supra fat grafts
Lip flip or plasma fibroblasts above the upper lip
Multi segment lefort (to increase mouth width and fix underbite-like side profile)
Plasma fibroblasts on nose to reduce bulbosity
Latisse or similar growth agent on eyelashes

 

[unaiav25]

Hair transplant
Supra fat grafts
Lip flip or plasma fibroblasts above the upper lip
Multi segment lefort (to increase mouth width and fix underbite-like side profile)
Plasma fibroblasts on nose to reduce bulbosity
Latisse or similar growth agent on eyelashes

How essential is the lefort? Others have said my lower third is good and that any kind of jaw surgery would be too risky considering it’s not enough of a flaw. Maybe expansion instead?

Also could I do the other stuff first and see if it’s enough before then maybe considering the lefort or would it mess it up if I got it in that order.

I might get an alar plasty for the nose tip

 

[nishka]

Multi segment lefort (to increase mouth width and fix underbite-like side profile)

do you know fr if segmental le forte 1 increases mouth width?
like wont the soft tissue just stay the same? what about lower jaw? just curious. my surgeon didnt do segmental and i wonder if it was a good idea.

 

[yussimania]

do you know fr if segmental le forte 1 increases mouth width?
like wont the soft tissue just stay the same? what about lower jaw? just curious. my surgeon didnt do segmental and i wonder if it was a good idea.

Segmental is just for palatal width

Won't affect anything else

 

[unaiav25]

Segmental is just for palatal width

Won't affect anything else

Can u give. The OP, advice

 

[kaydd]

Segmental is just for palatal width

Won't affect anything else

Wouldnt it technically be good for creating a base for whether your getting a commissuroplasty. leaving you with the ideal wide smile by getting rid of the corner gaps caused by the comm

 

[HumanTitanium]

To be honest, I don't think your amount of eye symmetry is really worth trying to correct because there really isn't a clear path to fixing it if it's skeletal and it really doesn't effect your harmony that much.

In my opinion, soft maxing with accutane and filling in the eyebrows will give you a really good return on investment. The only surgeries I see giving you a good and predictable outcome would rhinoplasty and hair transplant (which is a gamble since you don't want to take finastride or dutastride). Lift lip could also be beneficial.

 

[unaiav25]

To be honest, I don't think your amount of eye symmetry is really worth trying to correct because there really isn't a clear path to fixing it if it's skeletal and it really doesn't effect your harmony that much.

In my opinion, soft maxing with accutane and filling in the eyebrows will give you a really good return on investment. The only surgeries I see giving you a good and predictable outcome would rhinoplasty and hair transplant (which is a gamble since you don't want to take finastride or dutastride). Lift lip could also be beneficial.

It’s fixable with an orbital implant

The Seven Layers Of Vertical Orbital Dystopia (VOD) Surgery - Explore Plastic Surgery

The multiple procedures potentially needed for VOD surgery correction are described.

exploreplasticsurgery.com

Giant said he could fix it also. But I’m open to the idea of it not being worthwhile for me. However it is fixable. Would u not suggest I get like fat grafting to reduce my upper eyelid exposure ? That’s been recommended a lot in the past

 

[jester]

Do u know much about vertical optical dystopia? It’s where one of the eyes is higher than the other. Because I have that it can be fixed with an orbital rim implant I’m wondering how much that is affecting my looks.

not even noticeable

 

[HumanTitanium]

It’s fixable with an orbital implant

The Seven Layers Of Vertical Orbital Dystopia (VOD) Surgery - Explore Plastic Surgery

The multiple procedures potentially needed for VOD surgery correction are described.

exploreplasticsurgery.com

Giant said he could fix it also. But I’m open to the idea of it not being worthwhile for me. However it is fixable. Would u not suggest I get like fat grafting to reduce my upper eyelid exposure ? That’s been recommended a lot in the past

Thanks for sending that, about vertical orbital dystopia because I need that and am going to ask about that in an upcoming consultation. I don't think your VOD is that bad, but the upper eye lift fat grafts could help too. You have pretty good harmony which makes things difficult because you really don't have any major flaw that needs to be fixed

 

[yussimania]

Thanks for sending that, about vertical orbital dystopia because I need that and am going to ask about that in an upcoming consultation. I don't think your VOD is that bad, but the upper eye lift fat grafts could help too. You have pretty good harmony which makes things difficult because you really don't have any major flaw that needs to be fixed

I wanna get VOD implant done it improves harmony by so much it's criminally under rated

 

[HumanTitanium]

I wanna get VOD implant done it improves harmony by so much it's criminally under rated

I don't know how i didn't know about it earlier...the idea of getting it is life fuel for me

 

[yussimania]

I don't know how i didn't know about it earlier...the idea of getting it is life fuel for me

Just be aware that you will need a lower lid retraction surgery or sorts as the waterline will not move with the globe

 

[shedontluv-U]

I’ve been told I have a decent base and could really ascend with a few surgeries. Let me clarify a few things - this isn’t my natural peak. I’ve been bulking for half a year and sitting at 84kg/186lbs at 6’10, nowhere near a low bodyfat for facial aesthetics, so I’m not fully debloated. I know my hair isn’t great and some may say hop on fin or dutasteridd, but I already have certain health issues that make these drugs too risky for me. I will bide my time and hope a better treatment will eventually become available. In after primarily hardmaxxing surgeries to improve facially.

One unique issue I have is a mild form of vertical optical dystopia (VOD) where one of my eyes sits slightly lower than the other, thus causing eye assymetry. A number of craniofacial surgeons can fix this by using an implant to make the eyes appear more level. I wanted people’s opinions on whether that’s worthwhile whether getting the surgery to make my eyes more symmetrical is necessary. There are other ways my eyes could be improved like fat grafting for the infra & supra orbital region which would benefit my eyes in other ways. It’s just I’m wondering whether the assymetry itself is essential to improving my eyes or I should pursue different surgeries.

Other surgical suggestions welcome. I get suggested a rhinoplasty lot.

Thank you


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fat grafting for uee

 

[majsha]

a lobotomy

 

[unaiav25]

Thanks for sending that, about vertical orbital dystopia because I need that and am going to ask about that in an upcoming consultation. I don't think your VOD is that bad, but the upper eye lift fat grafts could help too. You have pretty good harmony which makes things difficult because you really don't have any major flaw that needs to be fixed

How about my nose though? When I look in the mirror my nose sticks out more than anything as being not harmonious

 

[kaydd]

How about my nose though? When I look in the mirror my nose sticks out more than anything as being not harmonious

a tip refinement should suffice.

and a slight alar reduction, although i have a feeling a diy fat dissolving could work for that

 

[unaiav25]

Bump

 

[unaiav25]

Bump

 

[monecel]

do you know fr if segmental le forte 1 increases mouth width?
like wont the soft tissue just stay the same? what about lower jaw? just curious. my surgeon didnt do segmental and i wonder if it was a good idea.

The soft tissue stretches over the wider maxilla

 

[superslayer88]

rhinoplasty and hair transplant should be first on your surgery agenda, afterwards maybe consider some fat grafts, filler, or botox

 

[superslayer88]

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also get the fuck on some form of hair loss meds, i would recommend oral minoxidil and a 5ar inhibitor

 

[unaiav25]

rhinoplasty and hair transplant should be first on your surgery agenda, afterwards maybe consider some fat grafts, filler, or botox

Thank yous do you think a rhino would ascend me a decent amount?

 

[unaiav25]

Just be aware that you will need a lower lid retraction surgery or sorts as the waterline will not move with the globe

Do u think I need implant for VOD or is it not making that big difference on my appearance?

 

[lurking truecel]

Hair transplant
Supra fat grafts
Lip flip or plasma fibroblasts above the upper lip
Multi segment lefort (to increase mouth width and fix underbite-like side profile)
Plasma fibroblasts on nose to reduce bulbosity
Latisse or similar growth agent on eyelashes

Multi segment leforte to increase mouth width ? Mever seen that effect? Esp since segmental almost allways only widen the posterior part

 

[zemult]

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@Knight
@Soter
@GetSumPuss
@Ogionth
@mohi_100
@monecel
@jester

You need uee fat grafting

 

[monecel]

Multi segment leforte to increase mouth width ? Mever seen that effect? Esp since segmental almost allways only widen the posterior part

Advancement with a little anterior expansion should increase mouth width as far as I know. Not a lot of cases to reference though.

 

[unaiav25]

You need uee fat grafting

That and a rhino seem to get recommended most, do u agree id benefit on rhino or technically an alar plasty to improve nose tip as well?