What surgeries should I consider?

[Deleted member 197617]

how far can I reach hardmaxxing?

 

[SaiNaz]

hardmaxxng does wonders for anyone your mandible is fucked ever consider chin implants?

 

[Deleted member 197617]

hardmaxxng does wonders for anyone your mandible is fucked ever consider chin implants?

I want to do a genioplasty as soon as possible, but I’m 16 so it’s not possible right now.

 

[SaiNaz]

I want to do a genioplasty as soon as possible, but I’m 16 so it’s not possible right now.

thats fine this type of stuff takes time maybe try chewing on ur premolars for now it may be cope but anything helps

 

[vermicel]

I want to do a genioplasty as soon as possible, but I’m 16 so it’s not possible right now.

You definitely need a big genioplasty for vertical augmentation and maybe widening.
Your chin's lack of height, combined with a very wide face and a long philtrum, ruins your facial harmony (respectively your total FWHR and chin to philtrum ratio).
Fillers might be necessary as a complementary treatment in order to achieve an ideal chin shape.

On top of a genioplasty, you will need a lip lift as well. Both for increasing the upper lip's height (vermilion exposure +) and for shortening the philtrum.

You could also consider a rhinoplasty to improve the dorsum, especially so it looks straighter from the front. A small alar plasty might be worth it, as it would harmonize nose & mouth width (mouth appears to be on the narrow side, and that can't be altered satisfactorily).

You could also consider buccal fat removal, as it might bring out your angularity and reduce perceived volume & blockiness in the midface & lower third.

Finally, I would suggest to work on your hair style so it attenuates the perceived width of your face. Keep some length and style it in such a way that the sides of your face are partially covered. Your current hair style is not too far from that and just needs some work.
By the way, if you notice any sign of temporal recession, make sure to address it with minoxidil + microneedling (you're still too young for finasteride/dutasteride).

The approx. chin to philtrum ratio in the morph below is 2.4 (whithin the ideal range). It was only ~1.56 in the original/unaltered front profile, way below the ideal range.

 

[nishka]

You definitely need a big genioplasty for vertical augmentation and maybe widening.
Your chin's lack of height, combined with a very wide face and a long philtrum, ruins your facial harmony (respectively your total FWHR and chin to philtrum ratio).
Fillers might be necessary as a complementary treatment in order to achieve an ideal chin shape.

On top of a genioplasty, you will need a lip lift as well. Both for increasing the upper lip's height (vermilion exposure +) and for shortening the philtrum.

You could also consider a rhinoplasty to improve the dorsum, especially so it looks straighter from the front. A small alar plasty might be worth it, as it would harmonize nose & mouth width (mouth appears to be on the narrow side, and that can't be altered satisfactorily).

You could also consider buccal fat removal, as it might bring out your angularity and reduce perceived volume & blockiness in the midface & lower third.

Finally, I would suggest to work on your hair style so it attenuates the perceived width of your face. Keep some length and style it in such a way that the sides of your face are partially covered. Your current hair style is not too far from that and just needs some work.
By the way, if you notice any sign of temporal recession, make sure to address it with minoxidil + microneedling (you're still too young for finasteride/dutasteride).

The approx. chin to philtrum ratio in the morph below is 2.4 (whithin the ideal range). It was only ~1.56 in the original/unaltered front profile, way below the ideal range.

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vermicell every time I look at your morphs I am in awe you truly are a valued member here. The only one who I haven’t seen you make into superman is me pretty much maybe because I am Indian my morphs are hard to get right? But anyway good job

 

[vermicel]

vermicell every time I look at your morphs I am in awe you truly are a valued member here. The only one who I haven’t seen you make into superman is me pretty much maybe because I am Indian my morphs are hard to get right? But anyway good job

Well, this user was in such awe at the morph that he decided to silently delete his account


I can see two main explanations as to why you think that only your morph wasn't good enough. And they have nothing to do with your phenotype.

First, you have an inherent bias when looking at pics of yourself, whether altered or not. You're probably more demanding, applying harsher judgement, focusing on details that don't really matter to others (me being part of these "others"), and maybe you have unrealistic expectations.

Then, your front profile didn't have major flaws prior to your recent surgeries ; only minor and moderate flaws. So realistic before/after's won't be as striking as for faces suffering from major flaws. For example, look at the guy in the OP : he was basically missing a chin and an upper lip. Fixing both of those do generate a very visually impactful improvement. On the other hand, your biggest flaws for the front profile are basically supra-orbital hollowness and flared ears. Fixing those will generate an improvement, sure, but not a crazy ascension.
When morphing a face, I try (and sometimes fail) to respect both the initial anatomic base and the true potential of cosmetic procedures. Some bases are hard-capped, regardless of their actual looks level, and won't benefit as much as others from today's state-of-the-art procedures. It's the unfair reality. You may fall into this category : your looks will be improved once you've completed your surgical plan (assuming everything goes well), but the end result won't be truly mind-bending. And my morphs reflected that.

 

[nishka]

Well, this user was in such awe at the morph that he decided to silently delete his account


I can see two main explanations as to why you think that only your morph wasn't good enough. And they have nothing to do with your phenotype.

First, you have an inherent bias when looking at pics of yourself, whether altered or not. You're probably more demanding, applying harsher judgement, focusing on details that don't really matter to others (me being part of these "others"), and maybe you have unrealistic expectations.

Then, your front profile didn't have major flaws prior to your recent surgeries ; only minor and moderate flaws. So realistic before/after's won't be as striking as for faces suffering from major flaws. For example, look at the guy in the OP : he was basically missing a chin and an upper lip. Fixing both of those do generate a very visually impactful improvement. On the other hand, your biggest flaws for the front profile are basically supra-orbital hollowness and flared ears. Fixing those will generate an improvement, sure, but not a crazy ascension.
When morphing a face, I try (and sometimes fail) to respect both the initial anatomic base and the true potential of cosmetic procedures. Some bases are hard-capped, regardless of their actual looks level, and won't benefit as much as others from today's state-of-the-art procedures. It's the unfair reality. You may fall into this category : your looks will be improved once you've completed your surgical plan (assuming everything goes well), but the end result won't be truly mind-bending. And my morphs reflected that.

thats actually super informative and puts things into perspective. thanks for the long writeup. The sad ish part is my trimax might have descended me a little because my nose is a little bit fatter. altho, its only 3 weeks of recovery. i would love to heard your advice once i am healed a little more as to what procedures i can get.