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What surgeries would turn me from this:
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Please name only surgeries that last long or that are permanent. Not stuff like getting fillers
 
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Bimax and angle
 
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Ccw rotated Trimax with a final angle implant
 
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Bimax and angle
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What surgeries would turn me from this:
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Please name only surgeries that last long or that are permanent. Not stuff like getting fillers
The tip of your nose has been altered, so you need rhinoplasty.

The tip of your chin has moved forward, so you need genioplasty.

Your gonial angle has also changed, so you need mandibular angle reduction.

These three will suffice.

People think that the reason for your forward growth is that your bimax, but there is only a change in the tip of the chin and your gonial angle.
 
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Nope

Nope

The tip of your nose has been altered, so you need rhinoplasty.

The tip of your chin has moved forward, so you need genioplasty.

Your gonial angle has also changed, so you need mandibular angle reduction.

These three will suffice.

People think that the reason for your forward growth is that your bimax, but there is only a change in the tip of the chin and your gonial angle.
i agree this would provide the best result, at a big cost, Time, effort, money and pain

My recommendation would be get a mini chin wing or just extended genio and some angle implants for 0.25 psl less than a trimax, rhino and angle implants
 
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i agree this would provide the best result, at a big cost, Time, effort, money and pain

My recommendation would be get a mini chin wing or just extended genio and some angle implants for 0.25 psl less than a trimax, rhino and angle implants
I don't quite understand. Are you defending the surgeries I suggested?

Also, why did you recommend Trimax? I don't see any problems with the patient's maxilla. Wouldn't it make more sense to recommend BSSO + Genioplasty for the lower jaw (the mandible is slightly recessed)?

The change in the nose may seem to come from the maxilla, but I don't think it is related to the maxilla.
 
I don't quite understand. Are you defending the surgeries I suggested?

Also, why did you recommend Trimax? I don't see any problems with the patient's maxilla. Wouldn't it make more sense to recommend BSSO + Genioplasty for the lower jaw (the mandible is slightly recessed)?

The change in the nose may seem to come from the maxilla, but I don't think it is related to the maxilla.
I agree that he would need multiple surgeries to achieve the BEST result but not in the reasonable and realistic way.

He extended the nose base which requires a lefort and most likely also a bsso.

BSSO + genio only, requires him to have an over bite which doesnt seem the case, so he needs a bimax.
 
Nope

Nope

The tip of your nose has been altered, so you need rhinoplasty.

The tip of your chin has moved forward, so you need genioplasty.

Your gonial angle has also changed, so you need mandibular angle reduction.

These three will suffice.

People think that the reason for your forward growth is that your bimax, but there is only a change in the tip of the chin and your gonial angle.
are you retarded, his ramus got taller and the gonial angle is LOWER, why would he need mandibular angle reduction. he needs to add mass there not remove an already short ramus
 
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I agree that he would need multiple surgeries to achieve the BEST result but not in the reasonable and realistic way.

He extended the nose base which requires a lefort and most likely also a bsso.

BSSO + genio only, requires him to have an over bite which doesnt seem the case, so he needs a bimax.
However, if Lefort is performed, a morph-like appearance will not be achieved; on the contrary, if the maxilla is moved even further forward, it will result in dog face syndrome, as morphs do not always produce true results. Therefore, rhinoplasty + bsso + genioplasty + braces will be sufficient for bite issues.
 
are you retarded, his ramus got taller and the gonial angle is LOWER, why would he need mandibular angle reduction. he needs to add mass there not remove an already short ramus
The only idiot here is you. The reason why his lower jaw looks like that is because his gonial angle is too high. He should reduce his gonial angle a little more and bring it to 115-128 degrees.

Additionally, the ramus did not lengthen, but became more prominent as the gonial angle improved.
 
However, if Lefort is performed, a morph-like appearance will not be achieved; on the contrary, if the maxilla is moved even further forward, it will result in dog face syndrome, as morphs do not always produce true results. Therefore, rhinoplasty + bsso + genioplasty + braces will be sufficient for bite issues.
The morph doesn't even move the lower lips/teeth so no bsso, Mini chin wing + angle implanta. Rhino also not required unless there are some issues from the front

also his morph is a bit shit because he extended his nose base while his teeth stay in position
 
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The morph doesn't even move the lower lips/teeth so no bsso, Mini chin wing + angle implanta. Rhino also not required unless there are some issues from the front
No, I meant this. I'm aware that it's not a BSSO, but if the goal is a fully enlarged lower jaw, a BSSO may be necessary. So, we're thinking the same thing. Also, not every Lefort procedure lifts the tip of the nose; these are generally side effects. They don't occur in every case, so rhinoplasty may be necessary to achieve that nose.
 
The only idiot here is you. The reason why his lower jaw looks like that is because his gonial angle is too high. He should reduce his gonial angle a little more and bring it to 115-128 degrees.
low IQ buddy. a mandibular angle reduction would make his already high gonial angle even higher as it literally chips away from the angle. "reducing the angle" would either be achieved through some form of gonial implant and/or making his anterior mandible area/chin shorter through genio(which i agree with); not a fucking mandibular angle reduction which has the opposite effect

Additionally, the ramus did not lengthen, but became more prominent as the gonial angle improved.
it literally did, i can't be fucking bothered to overlay the images but you have eyes
 
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Nope

Nope

The tip of your nose has been altered, so you need rhinoplasty.

The tip of your chin has moved forward, so you need genioplasty.

Your gonial angle has also changed, so you need mandibular angle reduction.

These three will suffice.

People think that the reason for your forward growth is that your bimax, but there is only a change in the tip of the chin and your gonial angle.
no there was more changes
 
low IQ buddy. a mandibular angle reduction would make his already high gonial angle even higher as it literally chips away from the angle. "reducing the angle" would either be achieved through some form of gonial implant and/or making his anterior mandible area/chin shorter through genio(which i agree with); not a fucking mandibular angle reduction which has the opposite effect


it literally did, i can't be fucking bothered to overlay the images but you have eyes
Dude, why don't you understand? I'm saying the person's gonial angle is high? They need to reduce their gonial angle. I don't even understand what you're talking about.

I am writing with a translation, so I don't know if the translation translated the name of the surgery incorrectly, but this is what I meant.
 
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Dude, why don't you understand? I'm saying the person's gonial angle is high? They need to reduce their gonial angle. I don't even understand what you're talking about.
maybe you meant something else by mandible angle reduction, but in the literal sense of the word it increases your gonial angle not reduces it

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maybe you meant something else by mandible angle reduction, but in the literal sense of the word it increases your gonial angle not reduces it

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Lol. I was arguing the same thing anyway. The translator probably mistranslated what I wrote.
 
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Its too hard to tell from the side but looks like maybe slightly short face. Downgraft trimax.
 
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Its too hard to tell from the side but looks like maybe slightly short face. Downgraft trimax.
Many people have recommended Lefort, but there are some points I don't understand. If this person's upper jaw were to move forward a little, wouldn't they develop dog face syndrome? Also, wouldn't it make sense to have rhinoplasty instead of Lefort to achieve that nose? I've also noticed a forward chin instead of a lower jaw, and a change in the gonial angle. I don't understand why you recommend Lefort 1 and BSSO. Could you explain?
 
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I don't see why I would need a rhino, besides that my mouth width to nose width ratio is bad but this isn't abouy my front profile in this post. My nose from the side is already good. And If i'd get only a genio and bsso as you mentioned, my maxilla would look recessed af
 
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The morph doesn't even move the lower lips/teeth so no bsso, Mini chin wing + angle implanta. Rhino also not required unless there are some issues from the front

also his morph is a bit shit because he extended his nose base while his teeth stay in position
my morphs skills are shit. I meant to extend the maxilla and I moved the nose base with it too
 
I don't see why I would need a rhino, besides that my mouth width to nose width ratio is bad but this isn't abouy my front profile in this post. My nose from the side is already good. And If i'd get only a genio and bsso as you mentioned, my maxilla would look recessed af
Dude, did you really think lengthening your upper jaw would make you look like that? The results of the surgery are unlike morphs. Your maxilla has already grown forward, and if you consider moving it any further, you'll develop dog face syndrome. Besides, if your maxilla is already in its proper position and your lower jaw isn't, why would you have to move your maxilla forward along with your lower jaw? You don't need to move your maxilla even further forward to bring your lower jaw into its ideal position. Also, with your morph, your nose tip is lifted.
 
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Oh, I see, because it seemed strange. Genioplasty + gonial implants will be sufficient for your lower jaw. (I suggested an incorrect surgery regarding the gonial angle above because the translator translated it incorrectly, ignore it.
 
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Oh, I see, because it seemed strange. Genioplasty + gonial implants will be sufficient for your lower jaw. (I suggested an incorrect surgery regarding the gonial angle above because the translator translated it incorrectly, ignore it.
Well thanks for the help. But wouldn't you say that the maxilla would look recessed if I didn't get a le forte?

Morphed pic without touching the maxilla:
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