What type of filler is healthiest

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Putting random stuff under the skin seems risky. Hylauronic acid or calcium hydroxyapatite?

 

[Bewusst]

Healthy is the wrong term

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Healthy is the wrong term

Debatable. There was a 20/20 segment with connie Chung about Hylauronic acid being a potential anti aging ingredient in some population that ate potato’s

 

[kalefartbomb]

HA is naturally occurring and breaks down the fastest. No filler is "healthy" but HA is the least harmful.

 

[randomvanish]

religion bro. fill your heart with religion.

and, yes i'm a sjw

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

HA is naturally occurring and breaks down the fastest. No filler is "healthy" but HA is the least harmful.

So u think the calcium based fillers
Potentially be harmful?

I have no cheekbones and need something. The ha fillers don’t provide as much change.

 

[lasthope]

Healthy is the wrong term

Dude I still catche that you get crippled by Botox
How is this possible

 

[Bewusst]

Dude I still catche that you get crippled by Botox
How is this possible

How's it possible? Botox/dysport/xeomin aka botulinum toxin A is the most potent neurotoxin known to man; the same bacterial agent that causes deadly food-borne botulism (which is why it says on the label not to feed infants honey, as c. botulinum bacteria can grow in it). It works cosmetically by paralyzing overactive muscles that over time lead to the formation of wrinkles or medically to decrease muscle contraction potential to treat spasticity. Is it that hard to grasp that if this poison gets in the wrong place (e.g. breathing muscles), it'll do exactly that - cause paralysis/inhibit cholinergic neurotransmission? It doesn't take a diploma in rocket science to comprehend that you may burn yourself when playing with fire. This is what happened to me and many others and if it weren't for the fortunes its manufacturers and cosmetic surgeons make with it, since it's so cheap yet incredibly effective, it would've long been disapproved of use in humans

 

[lasthope]

How's it possible? Botox/dysport/xeomin aka botulinum toxin A is the most potent neurotoxin known to man; the same bacterial agent that causes deadly food-borne botulism (which is why it says on the label not to feed infants honey, as c. botulinum bacteria can grow in it). It works cosmetically by paralyzing overactive muscles that over time lead to the formation of wrinkles or medically to decrease muscle contraction potential to treat spasticity. Is it that hard to grasp that if this poison gets in the wrong place (e.g. breathing muscles), it'll do exactly that - cause paralysis/inhibit cholinergic neurotransmission? It doesn't take a diploma in rocket science to comprehend that you may burn yourself when playing with fire. This is what happened to me and many others and if it weren't for the fortunes its manufacturers and cosmetic surgeons make with it, since it's so cheap yet incredibly effective, it would've long been disapproved of use in humans

i mean it must be unlikely as fuck.
did it can better for you or are you now a dead man walking?

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

How's it possible? Botox/dysport/xeomin aka botulinum toxin A is the most potent neurotoxin known to man; the same bacterial agent that causes deadly food-borne botulism (which is why it says on the label not to feed infants honey, as c. botulinum bacteria can grow in it). It works cosmetically by paralyzing overactive muscles that over time lead to the formation of wrinkles or medically to decrease muscle contraction potential to treat spasticity. Is it that hard to grasp that if this poison gets in the wrong place (e.g. breathing muscles), it'll do exactly that - cause paralysis/inhibit cholinergic neurotransmission? It doesn't take a diploma in rocket science to comprehend that you may burn yourself when playing with fire. This is what happened to me and many others and if it weren't for the fortunes its manufacturers and cosmetic surgeons make with it, since it's so cheap yet incredibly effective, it would've long been disapproved of use in humans

Did you inject that shit yourself or how did this happen and which muscle exactly got crippled

 

[Bewusst]

Did you inject that shit yourself or how did this happen and which muscle exactly got crippled

Of course I didn't do it myself. I went to an experienced plastic surgeon with very good reputation as usual but you guys seem incapable of understanding that the substance itself - botulinumtoxin - IS NOT SAFE even in the most experienced hands. It's a literal poison and was found to travel within nerve paths. Botox will never be safe, get that through your thick skulls!

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

Of course I didn't do it myself. I went to an experienced plastic surgeon with very good reputation as usual but you guys seem incapable of understanding that the substance itself - botulinumtoxin - IS NOT SAFE even in the most experienced hands. It's a literal poison and was found to travel within nerve paths. Botox will never be safe, get that through your thick skulls!

I mean if everyone would end up crippled like you it would be long forbidden so something must have gone wrong in your case, you said you wanted to lower your eyebrows so does this mean you can't really move your eyebrows anymore now?

I'm considering botox for the mentalis muscles to treat my resting bitch face thats why I'm so worried now

Rudolf Hess had a giga chad jaw btw

 

[Bewusst]

I mean if everyone would end up crippled like you it would be long forbidden so something must have gone wrong in your case, you said you wanted to lower your eyebrows so does this mean you can't really move your eyebrows anymore now?

I'm considering botox for the mentalis muscles to treat my resting bitch face thats why I'm so worried now

Rudolf Hess had a giga chad jaw btw

Not everyone gets full-blown iatrogenic botulism and systemic spread/respiratory muscle paralysis like I did but certainly, many people experience unwanted side effects. I can't rule out that something went wrong. Maybe he injected straight into a blood vessel or the muscle was already saturated from previous treatments but either way, botox has ruined more people's health than they will admit. It's a gold mine for both manufacturers and injectors since it's so effective and cheap to make, yet requires frequent follow-up treatments to maintain results.

If you wanna know more about botox, pm me. I've researched this agent in depth and can tell you everything there is to know about it. There are other options for your issue. No one should ever touch botox, it's just bad for you, highly unpredictable and results won't last anyway.

 

[lasthope]

Not everyone gets full-blown iatrogenic botulism and systemic spread/respiratory muscle paralysis like I did but certainly, many people experience unwanted side effects. I can't rule out that something went wrong. Maybe he injected straight into a blood vessel or the muscle was already saturated from previous treatments but either way, botox has ruined more people's health than they will admit. It's a gold mine for both manufacturers and injectors since it's so effective and cheap to make, yet requires frequent follow-up treatments to maintain results.

If you wanna know more about botox, pm me. I've researched this agent in depth and can tell you everything there is to know about it. There are other options for your issue. No one should ever touch botox, it's just bad for you, highly unpredictable and results won't last anyway.

Link some studies which support your claim please

 

[Bewusst]

Link some studies which support your claim please

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22580329/

https://www.jneurosci.org/content/28/14/3689

https://www.karger.com/Article/Fulltext/370245

https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/67/1/90

https://journals.lww.com/md-journal...nalysis_of_86_botulism_cases_caused_by.1.aspx

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ffect_to_Journal_of_Bacteriology_and_Mycology

https://www.researchgate.net/public...f_FDA-Reported_Nervous_System_Adverse_Effects


Personal experiences of people:

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiz79_oyaTyAhXB3YUKHZj5D90QFnoECAYQAw&url=https://de-de.facebook.com/groups/224009391310103/&usg=AOvVaw1jYtqHRhtiwKd05Qv5fRpF

https://www.realself.com/forum/bad-reaction-botox

 

[lasthope]

.

 

[lasthope]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22580329/

https://www.jneurosci.org/content/28/14/3689

https://www.karger.com/Article/Fulltext/370245

https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/67/1/90

https://journals.lww.com/md-journal...nalysis_of_86_botulism_cases_caused_by.1.aspx

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ffect_to_Journal_of_Bacteriology_and_Mycology

https://www.researchgate.net/public...f_FDA-Reported_Nervous_System_Adverse_Effects


Personal experiences of people:

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiz79_oyaTyAhXB3YUKHZj5D90QFnoECAYQAw&url=https://de-de.facebook.com/groups/224009391310103/&usg=AOvVaw1jYtqHRhtiwKd05Qv5fRpF

https://www.realself.com/forum/bad-reaction-botox

Systemic effects are few and may be immune mediated—for instance, anaphylaxis and flu-like symptoms. Recently, brachial neuritis has been described after botulinum toxin injections for writer’s cramp and may also be immune mediated.

Mh most studies state this could be a weird auto immune response. Of course, I do not want to minimize your bad experience, but it seems that the unwanted side effects that occur over a longer period of time are very rare. And of course Botox like any drug will have side effects. There is no looksmax without potential side effects.

 

[lasthope]

@Win200 for example had great experience with botox as well as many other
Also alot of celebrities and doctors himself.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Not everyone gets full-blown iatrogenic botulism and systemic spread/respiratory muscle paralysis like I did but certainly, many people experience unwanted side effects. I can't rule out that something went wrong. Maybe he injected straight into a blood vessel or the muscle was already saturated from previous treatments but either way, botox has ruined more people's health than they will admit. It's a gold mine for both manufacturers and injectors since it's so effective and cheap to make, yet requires frequent follow-up treatments to maintain results.

If you wanna know more about botox, pm me. I've researched this agent in depth and can tell you everything there is to know about it. There are other options for your issue. No one should ever touch botox, it's just bad for you, highly unpredictable and results won't last anyway.

unlucky

 

[Bewusst]

Mh most studies state this could be a weird auto immune response. Of course, I do not want to minimize your bad experience, but it seems that the unwanted side effects that occur over a longer period of time are very rare. And of course Botox like any drug will have side effects. There is no looksmax without potential side effects.

You clearly didn't even bother to read it all. Just picked up on the things you want to and neglected everything else, like the denier you are. I'm done arguing with you. It's a fucking waste of time. People like you would rather chop their dick off than admit they were wrong

 

[Bewusst]

unlucky
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You're making a fool out of yourself. This isn't even an argument, it's pathetic as fuck. This is my last response to stupid botox side effect deniers

 

[lasthope]

You're making a fool out of yourself. This isn't even an argument, it's pathetic as fuck. This is my last response to stupid botox side effect deniers

are you 100% serios?

whats your thought on fin?
retin a?
sunscreen?

basically all have side effects

i will look into your studies deeper when i have time but its seems like its rare as fuck or side effects only occure on higher dosages

 

[lasthope]

You clearly didn't even bother to read it all. Just picked up on the things you want to and neglected everything else, like the denier you are. I'm done arguing with you. It's a fucking waste of time. People like you would rather chop their dick off than admit they were wrong

Dude I wouldn’t mind admin I am wrong

but it’s weird as fuck That basically every insta hoe use Botox but you claim that somehow it will have life threatening side effects

 

[Deusmaximus]

"In the past half decade, the popularity of Botox in the U.S. has skyrocketed, with a 40.6 percent increase in procedures according to the latest figures from the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS), and a 5.1 percent rise since 2017. Last year, over 1.5 million Botox injections were carried out"

 

[Deusmaximus]

Dude I wouldn’t mind admin I am wrong

but it’s weird as fuck That basically every insta hoe use Botox but you claim that somehow it will have life threatening side effects

I am using botox since 1.5 years with absolutely great results. The bad side effects that @Bewusst experienced, make me unsure if i should get more botox.
Im doing research at the moment.9

 

[lasthope]

"In the past half decade, the popularity of Botox in the U.S. has skyrocketed, with a 40.6 percent increase in procedures according to the latest figures from the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS), and a 5.1 percent rise since 2017. Last year, over 1.5 million Botox injections were carried out"

Yeah it’s common as fuck
Even know personally some foids who inject that shit

the only side effect I Heard of is if it’s injected in wrong muscle or to much - and this get resolve itself since the body break down Botox

 

[lasthope]

I am using botox since 1.5 years with absolutely great results. The bad side effects that @Bewusst experienced, make me unsure if i should get more botox.
Im doing research at the moment.9

Can you plead Tag me or make a thread?
I highly doubt that botox side effects are that bad but will be open to conviction

I need Botox for my large masseter muscle