What warrior would you be?

[Deleted member 10987]

Anyway who care about gladiator cucks

Legion mogs all

 

[Deleted member 10987]

with a six pac and muscles

Not even retard
You didnt even watched the movie
In nowhere maximus has six pack + muscle and even this would be realistic

 

[Deleted member 14455]

Did you even read the article

ofc not


I read books by people who studied that period for years. not a cuck article about someone who read the wiki and wanted some clicks from dumb fucks.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

ofc not


I read books by people who studied that period for years. not a cuck article about someone who read the wiki and wanted some clicks from dumb fucks.

you are literally retarded and shows me you dont have the mental capacity to have a conversation. You couldnt even show me evidence or a quote from the book.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

Not even retard
You didnt even watched the movie
In nowhere maximus has six pack + muscle and even this would be realistic

 

[Deleted member 14455]

you are literally retarded and shows me you dont have the mental capacity to have a conversation. You couldnt even show me evidence or a quote from the book.

I'm not going to open a book for you and look for quotes, read it..it's fun i made mental notes and telling you the stuff that i know and you don't.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

I'm not going to open a book for you and look for quotes, read it..it's fun i made mental notes and telling you the stuff that i know and you don't.

cope autistic lies

 

[Deleted member 14455]

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fuck you are retard beyond imagination

 

[Deleted member 13994]

fuck you are retard beyond imagination

what someone with no evidence has to say

 

[Deleted member 14455]

what someone with no evidence has to say

You literally think the spartans are THE gladiators, your brain stuck at the very start of things, can't help you anymore.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

You literally think the spartans are THE gladiators, your brain stuck at the very start of things, can't help you anymore.

still havent got that evidence

 

[chaddyboi66]

If you did not choose viking you ara cuck ngl

Ninjas would be cool if they were anything like in the movies, but irl they're just ancient spec ops tbh.

If I could- Scythian because of my ancestors, but I'd have to choose Knight just because of superior weaponry, armor, and mogger tier HEMA training tbh.


[ISPOILER]Plus I get to fuck the King's Wives, Daughters, and concubines behind his back too...[/ISPOILER][ISPOILER][/ISPOILER]

 

[Deleted member 10987]

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Thats Leonidas King of Spartan
Not a fucking gladiator

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Ninjas would be cool if they were anything like in the movies, but irl they're just ancient spec ops tbh.

If I could- Scythian because of my ancestors, but I'd have to choose Knight just because of superior weaponry, armor, and mogger tier HEMA training tbh.


[ISPOILER]Plus I get to fuck the King's Wives, Daughters, and concubines behind his back too...[/ISPOILER][ISPOILER][/ISPOILER]

Ninja were dog shit tier

>scythians like your ancestors
Larp if not european btw

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Ninjas would be cool if they were anything like in the movies, but irl they're just ancient spec ops tbh.

If I could- Scythian because of my ancestors, but I'd have to choose Knight just because of superior weaponry, armor, and mogger tier HEMA training tbh.


[ISPOILER]Plus I get to fuck the King's Wives, Daughters, and concubines behind his back too...[/ISPOILER][ISPOILER][/ISPOILER]

But knight mogs anyway

 

[Deleted member 10987]

still havent got that evidence

YOU THINK SPARTANS WERE GLADIATORS JFL
thats how i know you never studied history

 

[Deleted member 13994]

YOU THINK SPARTANS WERE GLADIATORS JFL
thats how i know you never studied history

is another "historylet" moments

The evidence i provided was factual everything you have said though has been opinion so until then bye

 

[Deleted member 10987]

is another "historylet" moments

The evidence i provided was factual everything you have said though has been opinion so until then bye

You said spartan were gladiators so i dont take you seriously

 

[Deleted member 14455]

YOU THINK SPARTANS WERE GLADIATORS JFL
thats how i know you never studied history

- talking about gladiators

shows pics of spartans (here bro!)



now show me your evidence bro

 

[Deleted member 14455]

You said spartan were gladiators so i dont take you seriously

@tongue and cheek here's my evidence, look at this badass gladiators from a real footage:

 

[chaddyboi66]

Ninja were dog shit tier

>scythians like your ancestors
Larp if not european btw

No shit, that's why I didn't pick them

>Unironically half European btw
>Scythians occupied parts of Central Asia and Eastern Europe
>Modern day descendants are Ossetians, Eastern Iranics, some Tatars, and some unmixed Pasthuns

Slavs trying to claim muh scythians is slightly less pathetic than "Germanics" trying to claim muh we wuz scythians n sheeit which itself is a lot less pathetic than turks trying to claim them instead.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

No shit, that's why I didn't pick them

>Unironically half European btw
>Scythians occupied parts of Central Asia and Eastern Europe
>Modern day descendants are Ossetians, Eastern Iranics, some Tatars, and some unmixed Pasthuns

Slavs trying to claim muh scythians is slightly less pathetic than "Germanics" trying to claim muh we wuz scythians n sheeit which itself is a lot less pathetic than turks trying to claim them instead.

Its cope
Iranian ancestors were Achemnids + Parthian + Sassasinds + Pavlhavi

Not scythians

Otherwise its cope
Scythian came from ukraine and invaded all other place
They were europeans
Iranians were farmers assimilated into the larp

 

[chaddyboi66]

Its cope
Iranian ancestors were Achemnids + Parthian + Sassasinds + Pavlhavi

Otherwise its cope
Scythian came from ukraine and invaded all other place
They were europeans
Iranians were assimilated into larp

No, it isn't
I said Iranics not Iranians.

Otherwise, it's not
They occupied the region but were of Iranic blood and ruled over the slavs
They were Central Asian
Iranians assimilated other peoples, peoples they conquered, not vice versa.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

You said spartan were gladiators so i dont take you seriously

@tongue and cheek here's my evidence, look at this badass gladiators from a real footage:

1 thing i said was wrong. You still haven't gave a valid piece of information. You dont realise this but you havent made one valid point.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

No, it isn't
I said Iranics not Iranians.

Otherwise, it's not
They occupied the region but were of Iranic blood and ruled over the slavs
They were Central Asian
Iranians assimilated other peoples, peoples they conquered, not vice versa.

But jfl no
Its other way around
Its european that came and ruled over west asian farmers

You literally posted iranian propaganda and i know you iranian so you biased
Iranians are farmers who are linked to Achemind/Pahvali/Sassanid/Parthian

Thats it
Nothing else

 

[Deleted member 14455]

1 thing i said was wrong. You still haven't gave a valid piece of information. You dont realise this but you havent made one valid point.

I just showed you a pic of muscular gladiators

 

[Deleted member 13994]

I just showed you a pic of muscular gladiators

@me also give me a quote that rebukes my statement

 

[Deleted member 14455]

@me also give me a quote that rebukes my statement

read the book i said for genuine answers. it's interesting and you'll enjoy it. you can find a pdf if you have above 80iq. i only have mental notes, i'm not a robot with links to quotes from books. it'll be good for you since your history about that period is horrible.

just remember that spartans aren't gladiators, don't mix it up. gladiators were either war captives or criminals from within, or freeman who sick of everything and want some action and glory. in the books you'll learn about gladiators, different types, training, diet, where and how they fought, about the masters etc.

I can use my mental power to find the right pages, but that would be a crime because you lack everything.
ignore me and this debate and just go and read, better than rot here.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

read the book i said for genuine answers. it's interesting and you'll enjoy it. you can find a pdf if you have above 80iq. i only have mental notes, i'm not a robot with links to quotes from books. it'll be good for you since your history about that period is horrible.

just remember that spartans aren't gladiators, don't mix it up. gladiators were either war captives or criminals from within, or freeman who sick of everything and want some action and glory. in the books you'll learn about gladiators, different types, training, diet, were and how they fought, about the masters etc.

I can use my mental power to find the right pages, but that would be a crime because you lack everything.
ignore me and this debate and just go and read, better than rot here.

give me a piece of evidence

 

[Deleted member 14455]

@me also give me a quote that rebukes my statement

I think your biggest confusion is not knowing that gladiators are a roman thing, not greek.

 

[Deleted member 13994]

I think your biggest confusion is not knowing that gladiators are a roman thing, not greek.

please give me a piece of evidence

 

[Deleted member 14455]

please give me a piece of evidence

may you enjoy the book and become a bit wiser

 

[Deleted member 13994]

may you enjoy the book and become a bit wiser

please give me a piece of evidence

 

[chaddyboi66]

But jfl no
Its other way around
Its european that came and ruled over west asian farmers

You literally posted iranian propaganda and i know you iranian so you biased
Iranians are farmers who are linked to Achemind/Pahvali/Sassanid/Parthian

Thats it
Nothing else

JFL yes
No it isn't
The PIE invaded both East and West and make up equal components in both Europeans and Persians, cucking both Euro and Iranian farmer populations.
I'm talking about the Scythians, not the Indo Iranians (Sintashta/Androvo culture) or the empires that came afterward.


You just call it that because it disagrees with the narrative your own propaganda tries to push out.

"and i know you iranian so you biased"

*and I know your Iranian so you're [going to be] biased*

And yeah I'm a quarter Persian and a quarter Eastern Iranic, of course I'm going to be biased but then again so are you.

Also where'd you even hear I was [part] Iranian?
If it was from here:

My Dad is half Iranian (from Shiraz) and half North Paki (from Chitral near the Khyber tribal border next to Afghanistan)
I guess you could technically say Indo-Nordic pheno but with black hair and light brown eyes.


My mother is half Mexican (Castizo from an isolated mountain farm village in Querétaro/also from Jalisco with ~12% Native/Aztec blood) and half Spanish (from Asturias)

She looks very white with has dark brown hair and grey eyes, as does her Father (Castizo with ~25% Native/Aztec blood) with light brown hair and legit A10 light blue eyes btw.
Her mother is from Spain and looks like any Med tbh, light skin, dark brown hair, light brown eyes.


So I'm legit half Spanish med (inb4 muh "med passing copers") and half Persian/Chitrali
(North Pakis/Afghanis/Nuristanis are technically just Eastern Iranics though ngl)

Then you should've payed more attention to the fact that I'm only a quarter Persian, half white, and a quarter Chitrali [Eastern Iranic- Indo Nordics/Pasthuns/Kalash/etc]. The latter being some of the closest descendants to the Scythians.


Those empires came from the Aryans, who were the descendants of the Indo Iranian (Sintashta/Androvo culture) and Iranian farmers. Just like how modern Europeans are the descendants of Western Indo Europeans and European farmer (+ native European in a few)


There's more to it
Everything else to it actually

 

[Deleted member 10987]

JFL yes
No it isn't
The PIE invaded both East and West and make up equal components in both Europeans and Persians, cucking both Euro and Iranian farmer populations.
I'm talking about the Scythians, not the Indo Iranians (Sintashta/Androvo culture) or the empires that came afterward.


You just call it that because it disagrees with the narrative your own propaganda tries to push out.

*and I know your Iranian so you're [going to be] biased*

And yeah I'm a quarter Persian and a quarter Eastern Iranic, of course I'm going to be biased but then again so are you.

Also where'd you even hear I was [part] Iranian?
If it was from here:

Then you should've payed more attention to the fact that I'm only a quarter Persian, half white, and a quarter Chitrali [Eastern Iranic- Indo Nordics/Pasthuns/Kalash/etc]. The latter being some of the closest descendants to the Scythians.


Those empires came from the Aryans, who were the descendants of the Indo Iranian (Sintashta/Androvo culture) and Iranian farmers. Just like how modern Europeans are the descendants of Western Indo Europeans and European farmer (+ native European in a few)


There's more to it
Everything else to it actually

They might have talked an iranic language but they were mainly European genetically
Also physical description
That iranic languages came from yamnaya/IE

 

[Deleted member 7044]

samurai easily

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Viking because I am Scandinavian and it was prime time to be Scandinavian. Jfl at being Scandinavian and born in the modern age tbh. If I was born in the 800s-1000s, my purpose in life would have been to take care of the family, look after the farm or village, join raiding parties to distant lands and plunder and trade, and explore new lands. You can’t do any of this shit today, now you are stuck wageslaving in a city of hundreds of thousands of people, full of miserable people and depression. And your only purpose in life is to flash on social media. Being born today will give you good quality of life and ensure a long life, but you are robbed of a purpose and you will experience depression in life no matter what

 

[chaddyboi66]

They might have talked an iranic language but they were mainly European genetically
Also physical description
That iranic languages came from yamnaya/IE

Genetically they were Indo European, not modern European although they make up a certain component of modern European DNA because they conquered them as well, just like with the Iranian farmers and modern day Iranians.

Physical description varies with some propagandist outlets, as you might put it, describing them as having typical "Nordic" features (light hair and eyes) and others describing them with (Dark hair and brown eyes); either way, both of which still exist in Iran/Iranic regions today.

No shit, you say that as if it somehow refutes what I just said.

JFL, also very low IQ of you to first base your argument around genetics, and clarify how you're focusing specifically on genetics and not linguistics (unlike most out of India copers), then try to "refute" my points by focusing in on linguistics again as if to feebly try and get a "gotcha" moment out of me.


Others have debated this topic ad nauseam and I already know I'm probably not going to change your mind and you're definitely not changing mine.

So the last thing I'll say about this is the fact that I'm fairly certain my Eastern Iranic ancestors were Scythians because at least one line my family comes from the Sakzai tribe and the other is literally Dardic/Kalash.

I don't know about other people but I'm fairly certain about myself, and doubt most of the people trying to claim them, as with most people who try and claim entire groups they have no relation to as their own, have any direct link to them whatsoever either.

 

[Deleted member 10987]

Genetically they were Indo European, not modern European although they make up a certain component of modern European DNA because they conquered them as well, just like with the Iranian farmers and modern day Iranians.

Physical description varies with some propagandist outlets, as you might put it, describing them as having typical "Nordic" features (light hair and eyes) and others describing them with (Dark hair and brown eyes); either way, both of which still exist in Iran/Iranic regions today.

No shit, you say that as if it somehow refutes what I just said.

JFL, also very low IQ of you to first base your argument around genetics, and clarify how you're focusing specifically on genetics and not linguistics (unlike most out of India copers), then try to "refute" my points by focusing in on linguistics again as if to feebly try and get a "gotcha" moment out of me.


Others have debated this topic ad nauseam and I already know I'm probably not going to change your mind and you're definitely not changing mine.

So the last thing I'll say about this is the fact that I'm fairly certain my Eastern Iranic ancestors were Scythians because at least one line my family comes from the Sakzai tribe and the other is literally Dardic/Kalash.

I don't know about other people but I'm fairly certain about myself, and doubt most of the people trying to claim them, as with most people who try and claim entire groups they have no relation to as their own, have any direct link to them whatsoever either.

If they euro looking why not
They were descendant of those euro people
I just mean Curries/Iranian were natives farmers who adopted IE language/Religion from the the yamnaya invaders

 

[chaddyboi66]

If they euro looking why not
They were descendant of those euro people
I just mean Curries/Iranian were natives farmers who adopted IE language/Religion from the the yamnaya invaders

So muh phenotypes = white/European in your book? Seems like faulty logic ngl I [as well as they themselves] would never consider them [Eastern Iranics/Indo Nords] Euro.


Scythians came from the Yamnaya but weren't from Euro people.

Also, just because they occupied the Ukrainian/Slavic region doesn't mean they were Ukrainian/Slavic.

Euro comes from the Yamnaya but not vice versa, the Yamnaya were they're own group of invaders that assimilated Euro farmers and Iranian farmers, creating both modern Euro and all Iranic groups.

Also Iranian farmers ≠ curries/dravidians in the slightest bit

 

[Deleted member 10987]

So muh phenotypes = white/European in your book? Seems like faulty logic ngl I [as well as they themselves] would never consider them [Eastern Iranics/Indo Nords] Euro.


Scythians came from the Yamnaya but weren't from Euro people.

Also, just because they occupied the Ukrainian/Slavic region doesn't mean they were Ukrainian/Slavic.

Euro comes from the Yamnaya but not vice versa, the Yamnaya were they're own group of invaders that assimilated Euro farmers and Iranian farmers, creating both modern Euro and all Iranic groups.

Also Iranian farmers ≠ curries/dravidians in the slightest bit

They werent slavic i know
But they were a mainly european group
They where WHG before becoming nomads so they european

Not for nothing everywhere they went they leave "white" trace, even some mongols with light eyes are due to IE

 

[delusionalretard]

Jihadi

The only good answer

Nordic viking Jihadi mashallah

 

[Deleted member 8853]

If you did not choose viking you ara cuck ngl

I'd like to be a foid killing machine

 

[chaddyboi66]

They werent slavic i know
But they were a mainly european group
They where WHG before becoming nomads so they european

Not for nothing everywhere they went they leave "white" trace, even some mongols with light eyes are due to IE

*Eastern Hunter Gatherers

They weren't European because they [the Scythians] came from the Yamnaya culture who themselves weren't European because they created the Europeans, just like with the Iranics.


I think we already basically agree on most of this topic and are just debating semantics by this point.



If my Chinese food doesn't come in the next 20 minutes I'm going to sleep and will finish this debate tomorrow

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Prime time for Norway 11th to mid 14th century

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Norway_(872–1397)

 

[Deleted member 10987]

*Eastern Hunter Gatherers

They weren't European because they [the Scythians] came from the Yamnaya culture who themselves weren't European because they created the Europeans, just like with the Iranics.


I think we already basically agree on most of this topic and are just debating semantics by this point.



If my Chinese food doesn't come in the next 20 minutes I'm going to sleep and will finish this debate tomorrow

So what about WHG
They came from nowhere ?
They were here before yamnya

 

[chaddyboi66]

So what about WHG
They came from nowhere ?
They were here before yamnya

What about them?
I didn't say that.
They have no bearing on the Yamnaya, as they're of EHG themselves, and the Yamnaya changed them not vice versa.

Western hunter-gatherer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

During the Late Neolithic and Early Bronze Age, YAMNAYA with [EHG] Western Steppe Herders (WSHs) from the Pontic-Caspian steppe embarked on a massive expansion, which further displaced the WHGs. Among modern-day populations, WHG ancestry is most common among populations of the eastern Baltic.

Lazaridis et al. (2015) found that WHGs were a mix of Eastern Hunter-Gatherers (EHGs) and the Upper Paleolithic people (Cro-Magnon) of the Grotte du Bichon in Switzerland. EHGs in turn derived 75% of their ancestry from ANEs. Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherers (SHGs) were found to be a mix of EHGs and WHGs.[a]

WHG came from EHG, WHG was brought to Europe
WHG were in Europe before the Yamnaya came and WHG were assimilated by the Yamnaya

 

[Deleted member 10987]

What about them?
I didn't say that.
They have no bearing on the Yamnaya, as they're of EHG themselves, and the Yamnaya changed them not vice versa.

Western hunter-gatherer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

WHG came from EHG, WHG was brought to Europe
WHG were in Europe before the Yamnaya came and WHG were assimilated by the Yamnaya

So EHG --> WHG ---> Yamnaya ?

 

[chaddyboi66]

So EHG --> WHG ---> Yamnaya ?

No

EHG --> WHG
EHG --> Yamnaya
Yamnaya + WHG (+ Euro Farmer) --> Modern European

 

[Deleted member 10987]

No

EHG --> WHG
EHG --> Yamnaya
Yamnaya + WHG (+ Euro Farmer) --> Modern European

>Yamnaya + WHG (+ Euro Farmer) --> Modern European

I already know about this