What Women Actually Find Attractive - Macken Murphy - An evolutionary biologist at Oxford University

[RealNinja]

greycels clearly have no clue what NTness is

it's literally the most important thing in every male's life

Right… I’m 6’1 muscular between MTN-HTN facially and because of my Asperger’s I can’t secure second dates with girls who are ugly as fuck.

 

[hopecel]

Right… I’m 6’1 muscular between MTN-HTN facially and because of my Asperger’s I can’t secure second dates with girls who are ugly as fuck.

NTmaxxing if it's possible should be priority for most users tbh

 

[Deleted member 59122]

greycels clearly have no clue what NTness is

it's literally the most important thing in every male's life

death to anyone who chooses looks over NT tbh. NTpill is life because if you have autistic facial features or traits its over no matter how high your rating is

 

[hopecel]

death to anyone who chooses looks over NT tbh. NTpill is life because if you have autistic facial features or traits its over no matter how high your rating is

it really depends on a woman

if she's not autistic, she's more likely to prefer NT MTN with average eye area and no hollow cheeks to non-NT HTN with hunter eyes and hollow cheeks

averageness + NTness = law

 

[sub5pslathlete]

Health indicators and dimorphism mostly

Health indicators

 

[autistic_tendencies]

death to anyone who chooses looks over NT tbh. NTpill is life because if you have autistic facial features or traits its over no matter how high your rating is

It’s probably some other factor
Non NTs aren’t on the same vibrations and frequencies as NPCs

 

[NationalWarrior]

Water but sharp features are goated, im growing beard rn plus idk if i should do something to my eyebrows for them to look better

 

[actualunderstander]

He's just gonna say what everyone has knew for a long time. The fact he's from Oxford doesn't mean much cause this topic has been talked about and I'm sure he doesn't know much that's new.

Not to mention whatever he says doesn't mean it's a guarantee. It's just generalizing. Sure it makes sense in a general sense, but you can't deny there is some things that can't be explained away from science yet, or theories

 

[Johanjohan]

I don't think it was preventable
the only way it would have been prevented was if the human society never entered the industrial revolution or progressed past it
unfortunately technology is very good at replacing men's best strengths (mostly physical), but it does not diminish women's advantages (social, reproductive/sexual)
women have a strong natural in-group bias, while men not only don't have in group bias, they have an outright out-group bias (the only other group being women obv)

and the way feminists played their hand was also almost perfect - they exploited the fuck out of the existing evolutionary biases, twisted & rewritten history to seem as if women only have been oppressed (instead of the truth which is that life was shit for everyone in the dark ages, even more so for men), they have tapped into women natural dislike and negative bias of men & their lower logical and more emotional thinking by spreading demented feeling/fear based propaganda (aka a woman gets raped in india - all men at fault!), they conducted tons of social studies with methodology so bad that it would be fair to outright call them fake (aka rape statiscis - obviously women are going to be 99% of rape victims when your own movement made sure that the law is written in such a way that men cannot be victims or the one about men "leaving" their sick wives where they counted every man as "left" when his wife dies OR when they dropped out of the study)

they later often retract the studies, but headlines have already been made, and the horde of brainrotted tiktok feminists are outraged and hate men even more

just look at the type of a mindset women have these days:
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while men have been designed to love women, women literally hate men so much that they are openly calling out for brutal murder of men and nobody even finds this wrong

the male gender is so cooked it's not even funny

Yet most women are dating skinnyfat normies

 

[MakinItHappen]

He's just gonna say what everyone has knew for a long time. The fact he's from Oxford doesn't mean much cause this topic has been talked about and I'm sure he doesn't know much that's new.

Not to mention whatever he says doesn't mean it's a guarantee. It's just generalizing. Sure it makes sense in a general sense, but you can't deny there is some things that can't be explained away from science yet, or theories

He didn't. You think you know more than you do, but really you are an ignorant Zoomer that thinks he knows it all because of an ideology that states the obvious: Looks matter. Fucking shut up. Ignorant twat. You didn't watch a single second and saying he is going to say what everyone 'knew'. LOL, it's not at all what this gay ideology talks about.

 

[MakinItHappen]

Not to mention whatever he says doesn't mean it's a guarantee. It's just generalizing. Sure it makes sense in a general sense, but you can't deny there is some things that can't be explained away from science yet, or theories

Gosh you are fucking dumb. This entire ideology this site abides by is generalising you thick twat.

Bro seriously take an IQ test and understand you must speak less and listen more. Faggot.

 

[actualunderstander]

Gosh you are fucking dumb. This entire ideology this site abides by is generalising you thick twat.

Bro seriously take an IQ test and understand you must speak less and listen more. Faggot.

Son STFU with your psuedo science cuckslop incel garbage. Of course I didn't click your video, I can already tell it's just a dude saying exactly what all the black/red pill creators have been saying for years. Get off my feed with your chud science, touch grass and stop trying to help this guy sell courses. Go outside or something retard. I've seen this dude on shorts before.

"Gee this is so profound " -you. Hahahaha

 

[Roge]

Imagine larping as an OG looksmaxer yet watching videos on youtube about what makes man attractive

 

[MakinItHappen]

Son STFU with your psuedo science cuckslop incel garbage. Of course I didn't click your video, I can already tell it's just a dude saying exactly what all the black/red pill creators have been saying for years. Get off my feed with your chud science, touch grass and stop trying to help this guy sell courses. Go outside or something retard. I've seen this dude on shorts before.

"Gee this is so profound " -you. Hahahaha

You are a shut-in nerd that cannot even get status on an incel populated looksmaxxing forum.

Post / Rep ratio of a fucking aspie with no social skills.

You don't leave your basement and have no optimism in life because your situation is dire. I wish you the best of luck you closed minded bitter resentful fool.

 

[MakinItHappen]

Imagine larping as an OG looksmaxer yet watching videos on youtube about what makes man attractive

Your post is a good representation of how shallow your mind is and not even the majority on here are not impressed by your post. Despite how culturally autistic the place is, there is an appreciation for scientific literature on facial attractiveness.

Inb4 you throw a bunch of pretentious meme insults at me which Zoomers use to larp themselves off as having some semblance of a real personality. A generation of loser nerd men that are mad they weren't in the top outlier genetic exceptionally lucky ones in life.

 

[Roge]

Your post is a good representation of how shallow your mind is and not even the majority on here are not impressed by your post. Despite how culturally autistic the place is, there is an appreciation for scientific literature on facial attractiveness.

Inb4 you throw a bunch of pretentious meme insults at me which Zoomers use to larp themselves off as having some semblance of a real personality. A generation of loser nerd men that are mad they weren't in the top outlier genetic exceptionally lucky ones in life.

 

[MakinItHappen]

Ok Boomer lol..

Was a saying that we as Millennials invented you absolutely moronic child that missed out on the authenticity of the real world, through being born into a social media one.

You dumb fucking cheeky twat LMAO. Everything Millennials invented Zoomers killed.

Every meme.

Ok Zoomer. You fucking useless basement dwelling retard with the social skills of a boy raised by wolves.

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

0 moléculas

 

[Deleted member 29041]

He's just gonna say what everyone has knew for a long time. The fact he's from Oxford doesn't mean much cause this topic has been talked about and I'm sure he doesn't know much that's new.

Not to mention whatever he says doesn't mean it's a guarantee. It's just generalizing. Sure it makes sense in a general sense, but you can't deny there is some things that can't be explained away from science yet, or theories

Yeah these studies vary a lot and sometimes they can contradict with other studies and they are not absolutely facts. Always take them with grain of salt.

 

[ItsOverLawg]

and how is that working out? is that working out even for them?
I feel like most of the time women aren't even attracted to men, maybe only during specific parts of their cycle only & about a guy that's super above average (or a guy who crosses their high disgust threshold & also one that's so above average that she feels she "got a good deal")

but my question would be: are they even aroused by the man himself? aka do they see the man as the object of desire, or are they aroused from the fact that a top % guy is into them & is giving them attention?

when you read what female porn/romance novels are about, it's always about some insanely top % guy giving attention to a mid female MC that is a self insert

women don't seem to follow any of the behaviors of gay men: they don't watch porn much, they don't seem to be interested in anything physical that men possess like the physique or the dick (except height lol but that might as well be a marker for social status/worth & her getting a better deal in her head than other women)

instead, almost everything women do when it comes to sex and men is very selfish and narcissistic, to women it always comes back to them & how it benefits them
I honestly believe that women see men as just tools, be it in regular life, or when it comes to sex

this is honestly one of the best articulations of what i literally percieve female behaviour as.
thank you

 

[Deleted member 29041]

NT is law

I thought this was the case but my personal experience says different shit. . Its all about your face in the end. Height does not matter if you are not good looking. Bodybuilding does not matter if u are not good looking. You can be NT and make girls laugh but they will not give shit about u if u dont have appealing face to them.

Im like perfect example of this. I joined this fucking school half year ago. Half of the boys in my class are nt jesters that make women laugh all the time. Im This manlet introverted htn dude with skeleton body who mogs facially all the guys in my class. The boys tall mogs me and NT mogs me... I dont talk with any girls and they did not talk with me... but somehow this class girl just fucking out of nowhere approach me in fucking discord. Basically she liked me solely because she was attracted to my face. Being skeleton, manlet or Non NT jester did not even matter.

 

[ItsOverLawg]

yes, they never evolved strong attraction for men like men did for women
they evolved the need to procreate (baby rabies), like all living organisms

they also evolved to judge & want men based on (I believe) three things:
- the mans physical competence
- social competence
- his existing resources
(and somewhere below these 3 categories come looks, but I don't think they ever were a main component)

notice how all three things are only important in a primitive tribal society where women literally cannot provide for themselves - so now that women can make as much money (if not more due to their social female privileges) as men, there is nothing to compel women to men anymore

so men have to rely on the bad, inefficient "looks" strategy which depends entirely on female libido, and her natural attraction to men - both of which are quite low, evolutionarily, and when you add in the societal feminist man hating programming to the equation, the result is that it's literally over for men

even the men that "win", what do they win? a hypocritical, man-hating bitch? that wants them to be their tool?
niggas are seriously competing for the permission to be someone's slave JFL

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I thought this was the case but my personal experience says different shit. . Its all about your face in the end. Height does not matter if you are not good looking. Bodybuilding does not matter if u are not good looking. You can be NT and make girls laugh but they will not give shit about u if u dont have appealing face to them.

Im like perfect example of this. I joined this fucking school half year ago. Half of the boys in my class are nt jesters that make women laugh all the time. Im This manlet introverted htn dude with skeleton body who mogs facially all the guys in my class. The boys tall mogs me and NT mogs me... I dont talk with any girls and they did not talk with me... but somehow this class girl just fucking out of nowhere approach me in fucking discord. Basically she liked me solely because she was attracted to my face. Being skeleton, manlet or Non NT jester did not even matter.

Face helps yeah
NT law benefits average men by far

 

[Deleted member 29041]

Face helps yeah
NT law benefits average men by far

Maybe this is true but holy shit face has so much power that you dont need to say shit to anyone but they will still attracted to you.

 

[actualunderstander]

You are a shut-in nerd that cannot even get status on an incel populated looksmaxxing forum.

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Post / Rep ratio of a fucking aspie with no social skills.

You don't leave your basement and have no optimism in life because your situation is dire. I wish you the best of luck you closed minded bitter resentful fool.

Lol you're so pathetic, you're so clearly the sperg here did you just try to brag about your upvote ratio on a looksmaxing forum? I can see right through you son

 

[actualunderstander]

Yeah these studies vary a lot and sometimes they can contradict with other studies and they are not absolutely facts. Always take them with grain of salt.

For sure. These "studies" are just dudes trying to sell a course or tell you something the obsess over. NT is what everyone should be arriving for, not taking advice from other weirdos online. Talk to the local cool guy he will cringe at these type of theories

 

[Deleted member 29041]

For sure. These "studies" are just dudes trying to sell a course or tell you something the obsess over. NT is what everyone should be arriving for, not taking advice from other weirdos online. Talk to the local cool guy he will cringe at these type of theories

Attractiveness also varies a lot .. People have shit tons of different preferences. Its not very simple as it seems. The thing u see as beautiful can be others ugly or average looking. I also like girls that people would rate here as ltb.

 

[actualunderstander]

Attractiveness also varies a lot .. People have shit tons of different preferences. Its not very simple as it seems. The thing u see as beautiful can be others ugly or average looking. I also like girls that people would rate here as ltb.

Yep. Somebody gets it

 

[MakinItHappen]

Lol you're so pathetic, you're so clearly the sperg here did you just try to brag about your upvote ratio on a looksmaxing forum? I can see right through you son

Your bland, closed minded, bitter and pig-headed personality doesn't fit the mould of a neurotypical male. Stop pretending you're a well adjusted member of society. LOL, those in these type of forum are few and far between. I am one of them and I can spot the autists a mile off. You are not neurotypical so don't try and use terms neurotypical people use. (Life me) Loser.

I just checked LMFAO.

I was so right. LOL, loser. Social outcast because of your mental illness and lack of drive to learn new things, open your mind and be a regular member of western society. Keep being a doomer bro. You're FAR too gone. Fucked brain chemistry.

You never even listened to a thing he had to say and dismissed it straight off the bat because you're a shallow faggot with a genuinely punchable face I can imagine. Keep quiet adhd boy. You aren't meant for this world. Not being able to focus is integral, hate to break it to you.

 

[MakinItHappen]

Yep. Somebody gets it

Oh shut the pretentious fuck up. You watched not a second of that video you fucking ugly mongrel. LMAO

If you watched the video and then passed an opinion, I wouldn't have a problem. The fact you didn't and played his credibility based on APPEARANCES showcases how ridiculously small minded and dependent you are on ideological thinking in order to function in this world. You're a puppet. A puppet to doomer culture.

Don't involve yourself in my threads. You'll be a no mark loser at 22, 32, 42 and 52.

 

[MakinItHappen]

@actualunderstander didn't watch the video because he was jealous of the professors' status, looks and accomplishments.

Type of wolly to dismiss off anyone that is part of what he regards the 'normie establishment'.

'Everyone's programmed and a consumer but me'.

No, buddy, you're the consumer. You're the one that buys into a dumb ideology as making up and catering for every hallmark of life and then uses it as an excuse to not think or do ANYTHING. You nihilist mindless mothers basement dwelling bum.

 

[MakinItHappen]

For sure. These "studies" are just dudes trying to sell a course or tell you something the obsess over. NT is what everyone should be arriving for, not taking advice from other weirdos online. Talk to the local cool guy he will cringe at these type of theories

Oh yeah, everyone's a grifter lol, everyone on social media is a grifter and trying to sell a course and you are just so aware, sharp and tuned into it all. Is this what you pass off as your personality? 'Oh wow I'm so based dude'. You're based in nothing but misery. Loser.

Experience life as an authentic INDIVIDUAL and stop faking a persona online for dopamine hits. You larping unloved unapproved and unvalidated lost soul of society.

 

[MakinItHappen]

Attractiveness also varies a lot .. People have shit tons of different preferences. Its not very simple as it seems. The thing u see as beautiful can be others ugly or average looking. I also like girls that people would rate here as ltb.

What part of the 2 hour interview he just did was him insinuating that it was simple you thick autistic loner faggot fuck?

Just being around the autism makes me want to shove my arm down my throat and tug on my appendix.

You are not releasing anything in-terms of ground-breaking, revolutionary knowledge here and that faggot @actualunderstander is just like yup, you agree with me, guy with glasses from oxford = grifter and the science is bullshit, LOL

You are a total wolly. I'd rather observe STUDIES that are objectively done than anecdotes that make incels feel better and yes @actualunderstander you are a down right incel. Your personality is an instant give-away. People like me that have spent time with normies, autists and those that are in neither camp, can generally tell right away.

You just not even watching a single second of the video and dismissing it, assuming it was him saying X, Y and Z tells me everything I need to know about you. You are that classic doomer Zoomer that's tired of listening to anything anyone that isn't spouting black pill extremism, has to say. As it's all self improvement to you lmao and you're too far gone now, just someone who was unlucky and now totally boring. His inner world has been shattered from all the years of ostracisation. There's a pattern and most of you extreme doomers follow the same one.

 

[Deleted member 29041]

What part of the 2 hour interview he just did was him insinuating that it was simple you thick autistic loner faggot fuck?

Just being around the autism makes me want to shove my arm down my throat and tug on my appendix.

You are not releasing anything in-terms of ground-breaking, revolutionary knowledge here and that faggot @actualunderstander is just like yup, you agree with me, guy with glasses from oxford = grifter and the science is bullshit, LOL

You are a total wolly. I'd rather observe STUDIES that are objectively done than anecdotes that make incels feel better and yes @actualunderstander you are a down right incel. Your personality is an instant give-away. People like me that have spent time with normies, autists and those that are in neither camp, can generally tell right away.

You just not even watching a single second of the video and dismissing it, assuming it was him saying X, Y and Z tells me everything I need to know about you. You are that classic doomer Zoomer that's tired of listening to anything anyone that isn't spouting black pill extremism, has to say. As it's all self improvement to you lmao and you're too far gone now, just someone who was unlucky and now totally boring. His inner world has been shattered from all the years of ostracisation. There's a pattern and most of you extreme doomers follow the same one.

Blackpill has always exited. Its just new funky term made by this generation. The dude is pitting things We already have heard Many times before in this Forum. There is nothing secret here.

For example.


Of course red eyes looks unatrractive because Its show u are not doing well but how many people have red eyes?? Thats why these studies. Are sometimes retarded. It says that white eyes are more important for eye area look than other features… when it literally means u are sick.

 

[MakinItHappen]

The dude is pitting things We already have heard Many times before in this Forum. There is nothing secret here.

Lol, this shows you didn't even watch the video, so shut the fuck up.

There is A LOT of material in there that was not only never mentioned in here, OR hardly mentioned in here, but also DISAGREEING with what's in here. All based on guess what? CONCRETE STUDIES.

You are another geek that just posts for dopamine hits trying to get status on the forum.

You are trying to sound all wise and shit but you aren't. I advise you shut the fuck up as the larp isn't convincing me.

The only thing you got correct was the black pill always existing and the Zoomer loser generation terming it 'Black Pill'. Now well done and goodbye.

 

[Deleted member 29041]

Lol, this shows you didn't even watch the video, so shut the fuck up.

There is A LOT of material in there that was not only never mentioned in here, OR hardly mentioned in here, but also DISAGREEING with what's in here. All based on guess what? CONCRETE STUDIES.

You are another geek that just posts for dopamine hits trying to get status on the forum.

You are trying to sound all wise and shit but you aren't. I advise you shut the fuck up as the larp isn't convincing me.

The only thing you got correct was the black pill always existing and the Zoomer loser generation terming it 'Black Pill'. Now well done and goodbye.

I did listen him bit but he is spouting same studies that Qoves uses in his vidoes.

 

[actualunderstander]

Oh yeah, everyone's a grifter lol, everyone on social media is a grifter and trying to sell a course and you are just so aware, sharp and tuned into it all. Is this what you pass off as your personality? 'Oh wow I'm so based dude'. You're based in nothing but misery. Loser.

Experience life as an authentic INDIVIDUAL and stop faking a persona online for dopamine hits. You larping unloved unapproved and unvalidated lost soul of society.

Goodness man, you're being a wimp dude..I don't have to agree with you. You're trauma dumping nonsense on to me you freaking weirdo. You're a stereotypical chud , I already know exactly what you're like in real life simply by how you type and shout about everyone else being "autistic losers with no social skills". My guy you're a top poster on a forum that are 70% incels. Stop whining in my feed and see a therapist. Goodness gracious dude

 

[actualunderstander]

Oh shut the pretentious fuck up. You watched not a second of that video you fucking ugly mongrel. LMAO

If you watched the video and then passed an opinion, I wouldn't have a problem. The fact you didn't and played his credibility based on APPEARANCES showcases how ridiculously small minded and dependent you are on ideological thinking in order to function in this world. You're a puppet. A puppet to doomer culture.

Don't involve yourself in my threads. You'll be a no mark loser at 22, 32, 42 and 52.

You do realize you're just showing you're exactly what you're trying to pawn off on to me? Do you honestly think that anyone who sees an adult male being this autistic is gonna think they should take advice from you? You're spamming me cause I called you a weirdo, how can you be this dense? You're a weirdo man, get over it
What a "normal" well adjusted response to somebody who disagrees with you . This has been the strongest conversation I've had on here, congratulations