What’s a good test C and var cycle + pct at 17.

[ninkus]

I’m turning 17 in a week and I’ve already made pretty damn good progress in the gym natty but being natty is for losers. I still wanna have kids someday so what should I run to get big asf.

 

[gofortheeyes]

300mg test and 20mg anavar per day is goated low side effect cycle

 

[susisesi]

300mg test and 20mg anavar per day is goated low side effect cycle

I went 500 cuz my flacons were 250. Id suggest 500 tho nearly the same sides as 250-300

 

[gofortheeyes]

I went 500 cuz my flacons were 250. Id suggest 500 tho nearly the same sides as 250-300

True but there is higher likelihood of side e2 sides. 500mg is probably fine too, but it's your first cycle imo you shouldn't go that hard with dosage for first cycle

 

[susisesi]

True but there is higher likelihood of side e2 sides. 500mg is probably fine too, but it's your first cycle imo you shouldn't go that hard with dosage for first cycle

ill see, first cycle
25var 500 test hcg and arimidex (also alr on hgh reta isotret dutasteride etc.)

 

[gofortheeyes]

ill see, first cycle
25var 500 test hcg and arimidex (also alr on hgh reta isotret dutasteride etc.)

Your choice but from someone who kinda went through same thing. Training hard and focusing on diet and protein in take is just as important as the roads. I feel like I left a lot of gains on the table by not focusing on this more and kinda wasted a bit of money on the roids

 

[susisesi]

Your choice but from someone who kinda went through same thing. Training hard and focusing on diet and protein in take is just as important as the roads. I feel like I left a lot of gains on the table by not focusing on this more and kinda wasted a bit of money on the roids

been training natty for like 1 year and lost 60kgs. Now gonna bulk on roids

 

[gofortheeyes]

been training natty for like 1 year and lost 60kgs. Now gonna bulk on roids

Okay sounds good, your choice. You are responsible for being well informed and knowing the side effect profile of the substances you take

 

[thramer.]

I’m turning 17 in a week and I’ve already made pretty damn good progress in the gym natty but being natty is for losers. I still wanna have kids someday so what should I run to get big asf.

take hcg during the cycle to prevent testicular atrophy (stop your balls from shrinking) and maintain fertility (to still be able to cum) test only cycle is pretty much the best first cycle 300 or less will likely give near zero side effects but i'd recomend you to not take Anavar for too long cuz it could be mildly liver toxic but if your taking it at a low dose like around 20 mg and for a short time you should be fine otherwise it'd be better to stay away from it since test would do most of the work anyway. also are your growth plates closed cuz if theyre still open best to use ai to prevent grwoth plate closure and get more height, honestly id recommend you to use an ai anyways to prevent gyno snd water retention

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[ninkus]

take hcg during the cycle to prevent testicular atrophy (stop your balls from shrinking) and maintain fertility (to still be able to cum) test only cycle is pretty much the best first cycle 300 or less will likely give near zero side effects but i'd recomend you to not take Anavar for too long cuz it could be mildly liver toxic but if your taking it at a low dose like around 20 mg and for a short time you should be fine otherwise it'd be better to stay away from it since test would do most of the work anyway. also are your growth plates closed cuz if theyre still open best to use ai to prevent grwoth plate closure and get more height, honestly id recommend you to use an ai anyways to prevent gyno snd water retention

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This good?

 

[thramer.]

View attachment 4732699This good?

how long are you running the cycle?

 

[ninkus]

Like 2-3 months. Ik I gotta get 2x armimidex but how much hcg should I be taking. And doesn’t 10ml of 250mg test last 10 weeks or am I retarded.

 

[ninkus]

how long are you running the cycle?

Like 2-3 months. Ik I gotta get 2x armimidex but how much hcg should I be taking. And doesn’t 10ml of 250mg test last 10 weeks or am I retarded. Also r u sure abt the ai right from the start? Idek how much I’m gonna aromatize and don’t wanna nuke e.

 

[thramer.]

AI: you're AI dosage is fine (its much more than enough)

HCG: you need 500 hcg e2d on cycle (around 1500 IU per week) (this will maintain fertility throughout cycle)

PCT: then 2 weeks after your final testosterone injection you start PCT 40 mg nolvadex daily for 2 weeks and then 20 mg for 2 weeks you likely will not need clomid because you're already using hcg in the cyle and will likely maintain >100%of intratesticular testosterone throughout the cycle

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Anavar is honestly dogshit from what I see

Why does everyone glaze it?

 

[TitusA]

I’m turning 17 in a week and I’ve already made pretty damn good progress in the gym natty but being natty is for losers. I still wanna have kids someday so what should I run to get big asf.

Just run test, and if u to take the risk of your health not being ideal for a period by running an oral run a heavy hitter. Low var suddenly pushed because of vigorous steve trt bshit but it trashes your lipids like the other orals and gives nothing but a cosmetic effect unless you take it in a very high dosage.

Their is a reason he promotes anavar but every other month says he is taking anadrol or superdrol. Some people get a bit of strength on high dose var but its not like the other orals, why spin your wheels on var if its trashing your health anyway when you can gain long term strength gains from adding some anadrol, superdrol.

 

[ninkus]

AI: you're AI dosage is fine (its much more than enough)

HCG: you need 500 hcg e2d on cycle (around 1500 IU per week) (this will maintain fertility throughout cycle)

PCT: then 2 weeks after your final testosterone injection you start PCT 40 mg nolvadex daily for 2 weeks and then 20 mg for 2 weeks you likely will not need clomid because you're already using hcg in the cyle and will likely maintain >100%of intratesticular testosterone throughout the cycle

Do I rly need nolv and 1500 per week is expensive as fuck

 

[thramer.]

I mean you could also go with 250 IU HCG 2-3× weekly and it would cost half
But for PCT nolva is the most affordable option

 

[ninkus]

I mean you could also go with 250 IU HCG 2-3× weekly and it would cost half
But for PCT nolva is the most affordable option

Ok so On cycle:
250 iu hcg twice weekly. 1mg of armimidex/day 250 test c

PCT
40mg novla 2 weeks
20mg novla 2 weeks

 

[thramer.]

Ok so On cycle:
250 iu hcg twice weekly. 1mg of armimidex/day 250 test c

PCT
40mg novla 2 weeks
20mg novla 2 weeks

perfect
1 mg daily arimidex is a bit of alot but i thinks its still ok (dont forget pct only starts 14 days after stopping test)
good luck on you're cycle and fill me in on your progress

 

[ninkus]

perfect
1 mg daily arimidex is a bit of alot but i thinks its still ok (dont forget pct only starts 14 days after stopping test)
good luck on you're cycle and fill me in on your progress

Thx bro. Also, two q's rq. What should i do instead of 1mg of Arimidex everyday cuz u said that is a bit much. Also, where should i buy novla i cant find a source

 

[thramer.]

Thx bro. Also, two q's rq. What should i do instead of 1mg of Arimidex everyday cuz u said that is a bit much. Also, where should i buy novla i cant find a source

1mg daily is good for height but if you dont care about height you can take less (for example the original 30 mg total ai for 10 weeks).
For nolvadex you could also try searching for Tamoxifen or nolvamed in your source
if you dont find try this one: https://deuschem.com/post-cycle-therapy/tamoxifen-citrate-astera?search=Tamoxifen Citrate