What’s my ES ratio?

[ArabIncel]

Having some trouble while measuring. Can someone check it for me? I’ve attached four photos below. If someone can check using several of them to get as close to accurate measurements as possible, that’ll be great. Thanks.

 

[needsolution]

Its death tier i dont need to measure

 

[her]

0.40-0.41

 

[ArabIncel]

0.40-0.41

that seems unusually low. Did you check properly? I was getting 0.43-0.435. But I guess I might have been doing it wrong

 

[her]

between 0.41 and 0.46 idk where exactly to measure on the zygos

Distance between pupils divided by the distance between the widest parts of his face.

that seems unusually low. Did you check properly? I was getting 0.43-0.435. But I guess I might have been doing it wrong

I measured all pictures. It always came out at 0.40-0.41. But maybe I am wrong.

 

[Golden Glass]

Not saying I’m right but something about you reminds me of Michael cera. Definitely not your jaw.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

that seems unusually low. Did you check properly? I was getting 0.43-0.435. But I guess I might have been doing it wrong

MSE and shave your cheek bones, or MSE and MSDO. I may be giving bad advice though, these are just some ideas to correct it. Because I believe MSE will widen your IPD a little.

 

[LordNorwood]

idk where exactly to measure on the zygos

widest point

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Third time i see this thread from u, just rope already

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Distance between pupils divided by the distance between the widest parts of his face.

I measured all pictures. It always came out at 0.40-0.41. But maybe I am wrong.

How'd you measure it?

 

[LordNorwood]

I measured all pictures. It always came out at 0.40-0.41. But maybe I am wrong.

I get .41 every time too

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Third time i see this thread from u, just rope already

Don't be so harsh, it's kind of hard to accept that you have a narrow IPD.

I get .41 every time too

How are you even measuring it?

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Don't be so harsh, it's kind of hard to accept that you have a narrow IPD.

I have a 75mm IPD

 

[LordNorwood]

Don't be so harsh, it's kind of hard to accept that you have a narrow IPD.

How are you measuring it?

Distance between pupils (IPD) divided by bizygomatic width. For bizygomatic width I always just take the widest part of the face.

 

[Mr.cope]

Wtf is es I’m low iq

 

[Deleted member 3202]

I have a 75mm IPD

I wasn't talking about you, you is in general.

Distance between pupils (IPD) divided by bizygomatic width. For bizygomatic width I always just take the widest part of the face.

No, I meant how are you measuring the pic?

Wtf is es I’m low iq

ESR is Eye Separation Ratio.

 

[LordNorwood]

No, I meant how are you measuring the pic?

With a pixel measuring tool. Idk how anyone would do it otherwise

 

[Deleted member 3202]

With a pixel measuring tool. Idk how anyone would do it otherwise

Are you on a mobile device?

 

[LordNorwood]

Are you on a mobile device?

usually yeh but whenever I want to do ratios I get on the computer

 

[Deleted member 3202]

usually yeh but whenever I want to do ratios I get on the computer

What program are you using, this seems like a hell of a useful tool.

 

[her]

What program are you using, this seems like a hell of a useful tool.

Paint and calculator.

 

[LordNorwood]

What program are you using, this seems like a hell of a useful tool.

pixelzoomer, just a basic free download

 

[spark]

nice eyes

 

[Shodredux]

Your pfl is far worse than your es ratio

 

[TsarTsar444]

My es is 0.48

 

[ArabIncel]

Your pfl is far worse than your es ratio

appears worse than it is due to lower eyelid droop

 

[LordNorwood]

My es is 0.48

no one asked but slayer ratio

 

[TsarTsar444]

no one asked but slayer ratio

It's still over tbh

 

[Deleted member 3202]

pixelzoomer, just a basic free download

I installed it, thanks.

 

[needsolution]

MSE and shave your cheek bones, or MSE and MSDO. I may be giving bad advice though, these are just some ideas to correct it. Because I believe MSE will widen your IPD a little.

MSE would be disaster for him. His ES ratio would be fucked up even more.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Having narrow set eyes is not an immediate death sentence, dependent upon your phenotype, you might actually fall into a certain niche. If they're comically close together like one of my cousins is, then you have to act a certain way (my cousin acts like a joker which fits his perceived look).

Being reduced to niche appeal sucks though to be honest.

MSE would be disaster for him. His ES ratio would be fucked up even more.

Could he not have his cheekbones shaved? I've heard from a member talking about that after using MSE.

 

[needsolution]

Having narrow set eyes is not an immediate death sentence, dependent upon your phenotype, you might actually fall into a certain niche. If they're comically close together like one of my cousins is, then you have to act a certain way (my cousin acts like a joker which fits his perceived look).

Being reduced to niche appeal sucks though to be honest.

Could he not have his cheekbones shaved? I've heard from a member talking about that after using MSE.

There is no chance for OP. Its better to have narrower head than that wide as OP. MSE wont do a shit fof him. People falling for IPD meme forgetting that Ronald Ead got 5mm in zygos and 1.5mm in IPD so it would fuck his ES ratio even more. Also his PFL is too small. Its over for him.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

There is no chance for OP. Its better to have narrower head than that wide as OP. MSE wont do a shit fof him. People falling for IPD meme forgetting that Ronald Ead got 5mm in zygos and 1.5mm in IPD so it would fuck his ES ratio even more. Also his PFL is too small. Its over for him.

So you can't shave the cheekbones down?

 

[needsolution]

So you can't shave the cheekbones down?

You mean reduce cheekbones?

 

[LordNorwood]

There is no chance for OP. Its better to have narrower head than that wide as OP. MSE wont do a shit fof him. People falling for IPD meme forgetting that Ronald Ead got 5mm in zygos and 1.5mm in IPD so it would fuck his ES ratio even more. Also his PFL is too small. Its over for him.

MSE + cheekbone shaving + fix eyelids

 

[Deleted member 3202]

You mean reduce cheekbones?

Yes.

 

[her]

So you can't shave the cheekbones down?

You can.

 

[needsolution]

Yes.

Yeah but it would require also jaw reducing and he would end up with narrow face on the end.

MSE + cheekbone shaving + fix eyelids

Stop flying in clouds.
He would need like 3-4 highly invasive procedures to get like 1.5mm ipd just lol

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Yeah but it would require also jaw reducing and he would end up with narrow face on the end.

Stop flying in clouds.
He would need like 3-4 highly invasive procedures to get like 1.5mm ipd just lol

How much jaw width is increased with MSE?

 

[needsolution]

How much jaw width is increased with MSE?

MSDO i guess, you should follow maxilla expansion. MSE in itself wont increase jaw width, just maxilla.

 

[ArabIncel]

Yeah but it would require also jaw reducing and he would end up with narrow face on the end.

Stop flying in clouds.
He would need like 3-4 highly invasive procedures to get like 1.5mm ipd just lol

Is it really that over? At the end of the day I’m just trying to get to like 5 PSL. Some of the things I’m planning on doing are: (1) lower eyelid retraction surgery (for straighter lower eyelids; at least this will give the illusion of a higher PFL), (2) canthoplasty (for a more PCT), (3) upper eyelid fillers (for more hooding), (4) infraorbital rim implants (for better UES), (5) lateral orbital rim implants (to go along with (4)), (6) custom wraparound jaw implant (for a complete change in lower third; making it taller, more angular, etc.)

 

[needsolution]

Is it really that over? At the end of the day I’m just trying to get to like 5 PSL. Some of the things I’m planning on doing are: (1) lower eyelid retraction surgery (for straighter lower eyelids; at least this will give the illusion of a higher PFL), (2) canthoplasty (for a more PCT), (3) upper eyelid fillers (for more hooding), (4) infraorbital rim implants (for better UES), (5) lateral orbital rim implants (to go along with (4)), (6) custom wraparound jaw jaw implant (for a complete change in lower third; making it taller, more angular, etc.)

Do it and check results. I dont know if u can get 5psl. Surgeries arent that predictable.

All i can say that i wish u all the best.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

MSDO i guess, you should follow maxilla expansion. MSE in itself wont increase jaw width, just maxilla.

Couldn't you avoid MSDO then do MSE and have your cheekbones reduced? I myself am planning to get MSE to make my IPD and mouth better.

 

[LordNorwood]

He would need like 3-4 highly invasive procedures to get like 1.5mm ipd just lol

WHATEVER IT TAKES

 

[needsolution]

Couldn't you avoid MSDO then do MSE and have your cheekbones reduced? I myself am planning to get MSE to make my IPD and mouth better.

You want to get mse for mouth width or ipd?

WHATEVER IT TAKES

Not worth tbh, it wont make any difference. I would buy some good car for that tbh

 

[Deleted member 3202]

You want to get mse for mouth width or ipd?

Both.

 

[needsolution]

Both.

Yeah its possible but i dont know if its really worth. Its up to you bro all i can say that its possible.

 

[Golden Glass]

OP I’m pretty sure 0.41 is accurate.
I’ve told you before, you need cheekbone reduction and jaw surgery.

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

OP I’m pretty sure 0.41 is accurate.
I’ve told you before, you need cheekbone reduction and jaw surgery.

My ES ratio is the most off one in this forum

If I have an insanely high pfl and insanely low bizygomatic then what is it?

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Yeah its possible but i dont know if its really worth. Its up to you bro all i can say that its possible.

But now that you've said the thing about getting a narrow face after reducing the cheekbones and jaw, I'm now more skeptical about it.

My ES ratio is the most off one in this forum

It looks fine.