Whats the average size for clavicles?

[Predicate341]

I mean like how many inches should someone’s frame be?
Some say 23 is good but that just feels kinda of unreal to reach.
And what really defines narrow clavicles?
That the clavicles are pointing down inside of straight. Couldn’t it just be that your frame is wide but your arms might be closer to the clavicle which kind of makes your frame shorter.
I don’t really have enough knowledge to determined what’s wide or isn’t.

My point is I would like some help.
If training delts would make an illusion that your frame is wider then it actually is, same as not training traps, or if that’s just cope.

I don’t really know if you could actually determine if my frame is average

 

[scherba]

Training delts and minimizing trap growth with good exercise selection does create the illusion of longer clavicles. Hard on gear tho as the concentration of androgen receptors is high in delts, upper chest and traps. Your clavicles are pretty narrow especially considering your neck width

 

[Predicate341]

Training delts and minimizing trap growth with good exercise selection does create the illusion of longer clavicles. Hard on gear tho as the concentration of androgen receptors is high in delts, upper chest and traps. Your clavicles are pretty narrow especially considering your neck width

Coping right now but I’m saying it
The mirror isn’t broad enough for me to fully fit, and it’s a weird angle