Whats the best cycle for a 16 year old?

[YoungOli]

What is a cycle specifically for achieving a pronounced halo effect? I intend to start using AAS. I do not want to use growth hormone because I am already 6'3" and do not want additional linear growth that could push me toward like 6'9" or taller. I likely require a DHT-derived compound. Does Anavar provide that effect?
Maybe Tren idk? Lwkey dont wanna mess with the sides it has on the brain.
Ty all in advance.

 

[thebigdon]

What is a cycle specifically for achieving a pronounced halo effect? I intend to start using AAS. I do not want to use growth hormone because I am already 6'3" and do not want additional linear growth that could push me toward like 6'9" or taller. I likely require a DHT-derived compound. Does Anavar provide that effect?
Maybe Tren idk? Lwkey dont wanna mess with the sides it has on the brain.
Ty all in advance.

Use if you want if I could go back in time I’d do this

200 test
400 tren
As much masteron as you can afford more is better (get topical hair products like pp405 before starting) 400+

Now ancillaries
160mg telmisarten
4mg pitavastatin
10mg ezetimibe
5mg cialis
5mg Memantine
10mg creatine

(I would add growth hormone if you can afford it more height never hurts and 6’5>6’3)

Those are the main parts there are other otc supps you can get that idc to list but there you go

Run a cycle of cerebrolysin after tren also if you don’t wanna use tren replace with deca

Bloodwork ever 6 weeks and run as long as possible while your bloodwork is still in good-decent shape pull cycle only if you’re experiencing too brutal of sides or bloodwork comes back terrible

 

[YoungOli]

Appreciate it.
I have seen many people say to start the first cycle with test only. As this would be my first ever cycle would you still advice me to run all these compunds?
Also could i go lower on tren ( 200mg or 150mg) or would this destroy the purpose of the cycle?

 

[arabcell]

Appreciate it.
I have seen many people say to start the first cycle with test only. As this would be my first ever cycle would you still advice me to run all these compunds?
Also could i go lower on tren ( 200mg or 150mg) or would this destroy the purpose of the cycle?

I agree with what the previous guy said, i’m 18 on cycle so we’re on a similar boat.

Estrogen stops growth in growth plates and bones, so we want to lower it as much as possible. Run test at 10-70mg per week, any more you risk aromatisation and less bone growth as well closing growth plates.

For your main androgen you want something that doesn’t aromatize (tren, mast).

Tren is the golden nectar. Androgens and anabolic as fuck, it will drive muscle hypertrophy and osteoanabolism like crazy as well. Mast is also good but is barely androgenic contrary to what you hear (see studies in women where they were dosed with 100-200mg mast per week and had no signs of virilization). so mast is pretty mid but is effectively like pure DHT which will help with osteoanabolism as well and penile growth, nothing for hypertrophy as well.)

Now to further crush your e2 (estrogen), use letrozole, it’s the only AI that actually lowers estrogen within bones itself.

Run as much tren as possible, high dose HGH (as much as you can afford) then mast too.

can find hella ancillary guides for this. tren is massively fesrmongered, run tren e not a since you should be committed this and should run tren even if you get small sides.

tren e has less sides and doesn’t require as frequent pinning as well as isn’t brewed in harsher solvents compared to tren a.

in regards to using anavar, anavar winstrol and halo all have been used in clinical settings and people achieved height growth because it is a non aromatising androgen, such as DHT.

you can’t pick and choose to not grow vertically but to only grow your craniofacial bones. same with HGH, it will help with everything and grow everything. you don’t sky rocket to 6 foot 9 realistically a couple of cms more if your lucky, worse case drop everything if you are uncomfortable with your height growth for whatever reason.

lmk if you have any questions, it’s really dumbed down but i can go into further detail, on the bus rn while typing this so can’t really be fucked

 

[YoungOli]

I agree with what the previous guy said, i’m 18 on cycle so we’re on a similar boat.

Estrogen stops growth in growth plates and bones, so we want to lower it as much as possible. Run test at 10-70mg per week, any more you risk aromatisation and less bone growth as well closing growth plates.

For your main androgen you want something that doesn’t aromatize (tren, mast).

Tren is the golden nectar. Androgens and anabolic as fuck, it will drive muscle hypertrophy and osteoanabolism like crazy as well. Mast is also good but is barely androgenic contrary to what you hear (see studies in women where they were dosed with 100-200mg mast per week and had no signs of virilization). so mast is pretty mid but is effectively like pure DHT which will help with osteoanabolism as well and penile growth, nothing for hypertrophy as well.)

Now to further crush your e2 (estrogen), use letrozole, it’s the only AI that actually lowers estrogen within bones itself.

Run as much tren as possible, high dose HGH (as much as you can afford) then mast too.

can find hella ancillary guides for this. tren is massively fesrmongered, run tren e not a since you should be committed this and should run tren even if you get small sides.

tren e has less sides and doesn’t require as frequent pinning as well as isn’t brewed in harsher solvents compared to tren a.

in regards to using anavar, anavar winstrol and halo all have been used in clinical settings and people achieved height growth because it is a non aromatising androgen, such as DHT.

you can’t pick and choose to not grow vertically but to only grow your craniofacial bones. same with HGH, it will help with everything and grow everything. you don’t sky rocket to 6 foot 9 realistically a couple of cms more if your lucky, worse case drop everything if you are uncomfortable with your height growth for whatever reason.

lmk if you have any questions, it’s really dumbed down but i can go into further detail, on the bus rn while typing this so can’t really be fucked

Yo, thanks for the detailed explanation and for explaining the androgen side of things as well. I'll definitely take it to heart.
I'll do a little bit more sourcing cuz as of now 2.5k for 16 weeks isnt managable at 16 not considering GH.

 

[arabcell]

Yo, thanks for the detailed explanation and for explaining the androgen side of things as well. I'll definitely take it to heart.
I'll do a little bit more sourcing cuz as of now 2.5k for 16 weeks isnt managable at 16 not considering GH.

any dose of GH is better than none, even 2-4IUs.

worse case just run the androgens atleast

 

[YoungOli]

any dose of GH is better than none, even 2-4IUs.

worse case just run the androgens atleast

I see, thank you for the Tip.
Also wont mast lower my e2 even more?
Just because I dont wanna end a as a retard. Too low estrogen is bad in puberty no? Like for the brain development.
Im only asking because 10-70mg test sounds kinda low for that dose of mast + ai.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

IMO anything but test only + dutasteride is asking for faster Norwooding and also is unnecessary, you generally can get huge on testo only. I think lots of guys here just ask for quick glow-up and ascension then descending fast in their late 20s with heavy roid use. Trust me you still want to be hot as unc like me lol. Oxandrolone seems quite nice though, seems superior to any other non-testosterone androgens(still bad for hair and skin/acne-inducing though). Suppressing trash hormone DHT is good for reducing norwooding risk and acne risks. Some think you need DHT for development as a teen even when roiding but I suspect when you use so much T let alone the fact T is the main driver of development once in puberty suppressing it is probably a good idea. Last thing you want is earlier onset of or inducing Norwooding and higher risk of roid acne. (Even on isotretinoin many roid users get acne anyway lol, plus androgens can increase sebaceous gland size long-term/"permanently")

 

[YoungOli]

IMO anything but test only + dutasteride is asking for faster Norwooding and also is unnecessary, you generally can get huge on testo only. I think lots of guys here just ask for quick glow-up and ascension then descending fast in their late 20s with heavy roid use. Trust me you still want to be hot as unc like me lol. Oxandrolone seems quite nice though, seems superior to any other non-testosterone androgens(still bad for hair and skin/acne-inducing though). Suppressing trash hormone DHT is good for reducing norwooding risk and acne risks. Some think you need DHT for development as a teen even when roiding but I suspect when you use so much T let alone the fact T is the main driver of development once in puberty suppressing it is probably a good idea. Last thing you want is earlier onset of or inducing Norwooding and higher risk of roid acne. (Even on isotretinoin many roid users get acne anyway lol, plus androgens can increase sebaceous gland size long-term/"permanently"

Appreciate your time.
I understand that you think DHT is not important in teen roiding and to get big but the point of this threat is to use androgens to affect the bones while I can.
Androgens affect not only the "bone mass" but also the formation of the bones. Dht is the reason men have sharp jaws etc.
But thank you for reminding me that this can make me lose hair.

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Appreciate your time.
I understand that you think DHT is not important in teen roiding and to get big but the point of this threat is to use androgens to affect the bones while I can.
Androgens affect not only the "bone mass" but also the formation of the bones. Dht is the reason men have sharp jaws etc.
But thank you for reminding me that this can make me lose hair.

Hmm, there are sibling studies on those with and without 5-ar deficiencies genetically and to my knowledge bone development was roughly the same, just genital and reproductive development suffered for those with 5-ar deficiencies mainly due to being deficient in the womb and pre-pubertal years. Once you hit puberty T is responsible for most androgenic development, it basically becomes the main androgen in the body once your T production kicks in. I think this applies to bones in your face as well. Plus you have so much T to activate AR receptors, I don't even think you produce much DHT in bone tissues anyway??

Edit: I looked it up and you basically almost don't produce DHT in bones lol.

 

[thebigdon]

Appreciate it.
I have seen many people say to start the first cycle with test only. As this would be my first ever cycle would you still advice me to run all these compunds?
Also could i go lower on tren ( 200mg or 150mg) or would this destroy the purpose of the cycle?

You can run lower tren no one can predict how you’ll react to these compounds so always start low and nitrate up. Also it’s crucial you pin daily to minimize hormone fluctuations. You can start test only for the first month to understand how your body reacts then add the compounds. Start low and work up with tren 80-140-200

 

[thebigdon]

I agree with what the previous guy said, i’m 18 on cycle so we’re on a similar boat.

Estrogen stops growth in growth plates and bones, so we want to lower it as much as possible. Run test at 10-70mg per week, any more you risk aromatisation and less bone growth as well closing growth plates.

For your main androgen you want something that doesn’t aromatize (tren, mast).

Tren is the golden nectar. Androgens and anabolic as fuck, it will drive muscle hypertrophy and osteoanabolism like crazy as well. Mast is also good but is barely androgenic contrary to what you hear (see studies in women where they were dosed with 100-200mg mast per week and had no signs of virilization). so mast is pretty mid but is effectively like pure DHT which will help with osteoanabolism as well and penile growth, nothing for hypertrophy as well.)

Now to further crush your e2 (estrogen), use letrozole, it’s the only AI that actually lowers estrogen within bones itself.

Run as much tren as possible, high dose HGH (as much as you can afford) then mast too.

can find hella ancillary guides for this. tren is massively fesrmongered, run tren e not a since you should be committed this and should run tren even if you get small sides.

tren e has less sides and doesn’t require as frequent pinning as well as isn’t brewed in harsher solvents compared to tren a.

in regards to using anavar, anavar winstrol and halo all have been used in clinical settings and people achieved height growth because it is a non aromatising androgen, such as DHT.

you can’t pick and choose to not grow vertically but to only grow your craniofacial bones. same with HGH, it will help with everything and grow everything. you don’t sky rocket to 6 foot 9 realistically a couple of cms more if your lucky, worse case drop everything if you are uncomfortable with your height growth for whatever reason.

lmk if you have any questions, it’s really dumbed down but i can go into further detail, on the bus rn while typing this so can’t really be fucked

I agree with everything but crushing estrogen I’m not a fan of, e is good for neuro and crushing it while running tren is asking for brain cell suicide, it’s unavoidable yes but you should exaggerate it with crushed e2, in my opinion you should just keep test low enough to no need to worry about it