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teenagecel here looking for direction in my life any suggestions
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thoughts on cs? or getting raped by ai sooner or laterLaw, medicine, engineering.
DO NOTthoughts on cs? or getting raped by ai sooner or later
Y not my gook friends are all sweating on itDO NOT
The networking you need to get a job is crazy insane, too oversaturated wouldn’t recommend. Even if you get a job, Ai is continuously improving, no job security.thoughts on cs? or getting raped by ai sooner or later
engineering is so fucking stressful atp work construction. Medicine has 10000 indians competing but may be ur only route.teenagecel here looking for direction in my life any suggestions
Do i ditch everyone and move to usengineering is so fucking stressful atp work construction. Medicine has 10000 indians competing but may be ur only route.
U really arent left with much choices in europe and canada in terms of career
too much competition for limited jobs, ai might write some coding by itself.Y not my gook friends are all sweating on it
If u want serious money work in a steel plant in the United States, more of them are opening up cuz of tarrifs, they pay like 100k a year, no one wants to do them. Go to some rural area of pennsylvania and walk in and ask for the job theyll give it to u.Do i ditch everyone and move to us
Don’t listen to this idiot. CS is a good majorDO NOT
They require visas and nurses are always in high demand. Plus, graduating med school usually means a job comes with it as you network and intern at hospitals.engineering is so fucking stressful atp work construction. Medicine has 10000 indians competing but may be ur only route.
U really arent left with much choices in europe and canada in terms of career
AI can’t do things on its own. It needs people to use it. Also, chatgpt gets even the most basic of C code wrong sometimes. I’ve used it for Calc 2 multiple times and it fucked it up. And don’t even get me started on how bad chatgpt is for digital systems: comp org/architecturetoo much competition for limited jobs, ai might write some coding by itself.
Coding and CS are tasks AI would be the most easily able to do. If a calculator can be invented to make all calculations what makes u think a ai coder wont be made to do majority of coding
I agree its the best option out of all of them for sure. Thats what im studyingThey require visas and nurses are always in high demand. Plus, graduating med school usually means a job comes with it as you network and intern at hospitals.
I’d still prefer law, less debt, good stability, takes less time. But doctors are the backbone of societyI agree its the best option out of all of them for sure. Thats what im studying
@flambria can you provide a coherent argument as to why I’m wrong?Don’t listen to this idiot. CS is a good major
Trades. My dad is pretty high up in a construction company so I will start my apprenticeship early so im lucky. but a journeyman makes like 80k a yr bf tax and thats 2 yrs in assuming u work a bitteenagecel here looking for direction in my life any suggestions
Carney>trumpIt’s called moving to America, Canada is so cooked![]()
CS, is probably the WORST pick by far. Unless you are prepared to work extremely hard outside of school hours, then don't even bother.thoughts on cs? or getting raped by ai sooner or later
CS is heavily open source. You can find anything and everything regarding every topic online for free.can you provide a coherent argument as to why I’m wrong?
Dollar>whatever tf you useCarney>trump
We use canadian dollar fucking knobDollar>whatever tf you use
So worthless pajeet moneyWe use canadian dollar fucking knob
You're valued less than the British poundSo worthless pajeet money![]()
The same can be said for literally any other degree. Psych, math, engineering, medicine, etc. bad argument. This doesn’t proof CS is the highest subject at risk to be replaced by AI.CS is heavily open source. You can find anything and everything regarding every topic online for free.
There are clear defined rules and dictionaries for each language, it's rooted in pure logic (input-output), did I mention it's entirely documented and open-source?
This is the kind of data AI lives off of. CS Is the highest subject/job that's at risk by AI for practically the previous reasons.
Except it does. In the workforce, you’re expected to do your job as efficiently as possible. As I stated prior, AI makes even the most rookie mistakes with BASIC intro to C programming, this won’t suffice in the workforce and thus your argument doesn’t necessitate a lack of potential employment for future SWE applicants.Second
Ai doesn't have to do the job perfectly, if it can just outperform juniors then it can easily replace them, (it's at that level tbh) not only that, but it can turn amateurs who have no clue how to code into junior level developers over night. (more junior level talent, more competition)
Even if it becomes much more advanced, it’ll still need humans to use it. AI isn’t some sentient being that can move and do things on its own. It’s a composite and dependent tool in essence that requires humans to push it in the right direction.Fourth
Just because It isn't at the senior swe level now doesn't mean it won't be the time op graduates. But hey, I like your optimism.
I’m sure they are. But statistically, CS has one of the highest rates of employment and has expanding job markets. Your argument suffices against degrees such as CJ, which have the highest rate of unemployment post graduation. So logically as well as statistically, your arguments done suffice.Edit: Fifth, the world’s most talented and genius level engineers are working day and night to replace YOU.
Not it can't be said, all the degrees you mentioned and their jobs associated with them are locked behind degrees and passing exams, CS is NOT. Medicine, psych, engineering, do not do purely computational tasks unlike CS(if your focus is on writing software), they are not entirely open-source/easy to find and most of their information (especially psych and medicine) are pay walled. Additionally their job positions are are reliant on degrees, passing examinations, and etc. (In CS you can be a nobody build a portfolio and land a job, it's not worth majoring in) (if your focus is on writing software). You gave 0 coherent arguments proving other wise, you're a retard.The same can be said for literally any other degree. Psych, math, engineering, medicine, etc. bad argument. This doesn’t proof CS is the highest subject at risk to be replaced by AI.
As a intern/junior you are not expected to do your job perfectly, infact, the opposite is expected, they expect you to fumble here and there but slowly integrate into the job and become reliable through the years, have you even entered into a internship or worked as a junior in any field? Your anecdotal example does not offset my argument use data not anecdotes, and the data shows that it makes far fewer mistakes than interns/juniors, I don't know what prompt you fed chatgpt to get basics of C incorrect, but I can tell you for certain chatgpt (which isn't even made for programming) has exceptional knowledge on C. I've used it to write some snippets of code in C#, Lua, Py, CPP or to correct some of my mistakes and it does it flawlessly, additionally it also provides ways to improve it. The ability for AI is heavily reliant on the person asking the question, to me it seems you're not that good at writing prompts or asking questions. (skill issue). What basic tasks in c is it failing? Im confused on what basic concepts AI is failing on because it simply doesn't, you need to be more specific so we can test if what you're saying actually holds merit. Currently, the basics of c programming AI has it down pat and it writes in it far better than most graduates.Except it does. In the workforce, you’re expected to do your job as efficiently as possible. As I stated prior, AI makes even the most rookie mistakes with BASIC intro to C programming, this won’t suffice in the workforce and thus your argument doesn’t necessitate a lack of potential employment for future SWE applicants.
Yes it will need humans, but that individuals expertise has to be wayyy above what you think you currently need to operate it, that paired up with AI's rapid growth that bar is only getting higher and often getting higher faster than what people can keep up with. Ai is not entirely a "dependent tool" especially when it comes to CS, you CAN automate a junior developer work load with AI, but you will need to overlook it with a senior or intermediate dev to get the result you want, but then it will be capable of automating a intermediate dev's work load, while it's overlooked by a senior, then eventually a senior. Your view on this is extremely tunnel visioned, you fail to understand just why CS is inherently at risk to AI, and I feel sympathy for anyone who decides to take advice from your piss takes jflEven if it becomes much more advanced, it’ll still need humans to use it. AI isn’t some sentient being that can move and do things on its own. It’s a composite and dependent tool in essence that requires humans to push it in the right direction.
Statistically, CS also has the highest rates of rising unemploymentI’m sure they are. But statistically, CS has one of the highest rates of employment and has expanding job markets. Your argument suffices against degrees such as CJ, which have the highest rate of unemployment post graduation. So logically as well as statistically, your arguments done suffice.
If SWE are getting replaced by AI, then everyone else is FAR worse off.
Comp science jobs (and most jobs) are threatened by AI not because AI can replace people or do things better, but because CEOs think it can. Most jobs are better served by a logical set of steps a human made than what the black box of neural networks makes.
When you need to create a software, you don't immediately start to write code. You need to discuss with the clients to know exactly what they want. You then need to create the architecture plan of your software so you won't get lost in the endless sea of code. Believe me when I tell you that the actual coding takes up between 20% and 40% of the whole development process.
It is also important to mention that code generators existed long before the advent of AI so there won't be much of an improvement here. Besides, I've yet to see an AI generate good code from a single software detailed design.
One aspect of software development I'm really eager to see AI getting involved is the execution of test protocols, which is an absolute hassle. A lot of tech companies hire interns just to execute test protocols. You don't need a 3 digit IQ to do that anyways.
Wow. Imagine having nothing better to do with your time that you type an entire essay on this.Not it can't be said, all the degrees you mentioned and their jobs associated with them are locked behind degrees and passing exams, CS is NOT. Medicine, psych, engineering, do not do purely computational tasks unlike CS(if your focus is on writing software), they are not entirely open-source/easy to find and most of their information (especially psych and medicine) are pay walled. Additionally their job positions are are reliant on degrees, passing examinations, and etc. (In CS you can be a nobody build a portfolio and land a job, it's not worth majoring in) (if your focus is on writing software). You gave 0 coherent arguments proving other wise, you're a retard.
As a intern/junior you are not expected to do your job perfectly, infact, the opposite is expected, they expect you to fumble here and there but slowly integrate into the job and become reliable through the years, have you even entered into a internship or worked as a junior in any field? Your anecdotal example does not offset my argument use data not anecdotes, and the data shows that it makes far fewer mistakes than interns/juniors, I don't know what prompt you fed chatgpt to get basics of C incorrect, but I can tell you for certain chatgpt (which isn't even made for programming) has exceptional knowledge on C. I've used it to write some snippets of code in C#, Lua, Py, CPP or to correct some of my mistakes and it does it flawlessly, additionally it also provides ways to improve it. The ability for AI is heavily reliant on the person asking the question, to me it seems you're not that good at writing prompts or asking questions. (skill issue). What basic tasks in c is it failing? Im confused on what basic concepts AI is failing on because it simply doesn't, you need to be more specific so we can test if what you're saying actually holds merit. Currently, the basics of c programming AI has it down pat and it writes in it far better than most graduates.
Yes it will need humans, but that individuals expertise has to be wayyy above what you think you currently need to operate it, that paired up with AI's rapid growth that bar is only getting higher and often getting higher faster than what people can keep up with. Ai is not entirely a "dependent tool" especially when it comes to CS, you CAN automate a junior developer work load with AI, but you will need to overlook it with a senior or intermediate dev to get the result you want, but then it will be capable of automating a intermediate dev's work load, while it's overlooked by a senior, then eventually a senior. Your view on this is extremely tunnel visioned, you fail to understand just why CS is inherently at risk to AI, and I feel sympathy for anyone who decides to take advice from your piss takes jfl.
Do automated ports(in china for example) replace port workers? yes. Does it replace the management who over see those devices? no?
However, we can see a clear trend that we obviously killed a set of workers in the port department while raising the bar to work in it.
Samething with AI and CS, just in the case with CS the ability to replace the overseers is possible while replacing those who overlook the machines/repair the port machines are not. (Maybe eventually when robotics advances enough but not in the near future)
The analogy you gave misrepresents the situation.
Statistically, CS also has the highest rates of rising unemployment. My argument is explaining that CS is a dying field not worth going into especially if you're medium intelligent. Logically, you should pursue a valued education (Medicine, law, engineering, or something that requires physical work) while learning how to code on the side (super easy to do now given how the entire field is open-source, and AI for teachers/guides
) Statistically I am correct, CS is a dying field, going into it now is career suicide. Logically it is best to pursue a valued degree in uni while learning CS on your free time. (CS is arguable the easiest field to get into as long as you have a computer and know how to leverage AI/open resources)
Why are you ignoring statistics? AI continually outpreforms human work on every metric that it can compete on. The studies are against you. In the areas AI can compete on, it beats the average/way above average humans in CS, Medicine, Law, statistics, etc. Yes... it is perfectly logical to assume the magic black box engineered by the smartest people that live on this planet today will be out competed by the post CS graduate.It doesn't take 2 IQ digits to understand how retarded your arguments are. (I'm guessing ur a post CS grad coping about ur inevitable unemployment unless you sell your soul to the field
).
Yes im familiar with the workflow of how to write code, you detail what you want, you write out the architecture and functions/tasks to be done step by step, then you write out the code itself etc. I work as a game dev for commissions on the side in unity, roblox, and unreal, I know how it flows, and im telling you, if you understand how to write prompts, ask the proper questions, you can get AI to do a relatively close job at accomplishing what you want. (Hence why I said it's at a junior level currently) I could ask it to create a rudimentary modular player data store process that has their level, money, owned items, and etc, and boom-I have a skeletal base system with a few kinks and jinks that all I have to do now is just read through it, remove redundancies, and add what's missing/not working. (what you'd expect to fix from a junior dev). And no, the majority of it is the coding itself, the architecture itself doesn't take me too long to figure out, it's fixing the unintended bugs and outcomes that come out of it during unforeseen situations/the stumps you encounter on fixing the said bugs. Which AI is massively helpful for when it comes to theorizing possible issues.
Code generators couldn't predict outcomes, they worked on static rules, AI is different as they can create code without following a fixed template it's more flexible and tailored to what you need. (almost like what a human is hired to do) , not only that but you can conversate with the AI to fix the appearing bugs as you go while it follows along. (almost like an extremely knowledgeable intern). If you fail to understand the discrepancies between AI and Code generators you shouldn't be talking about this topic. At all.
TLDR: Statisically, and logically, AI Is equipped with all the tools it needs to replace junior devs in the following years, and eventually intermediate to senior level devs. CS Is already seeing an increase in unemployment (highest out of all fields and the rate of it's increase is still rising). CS has 0 gate kept information and it's all fully documented/open-source making it perfect for AI to automate (it's how it learns). Additionally more people can get into it, increasing competition for jobs/positions (especially intern or junior level positions). Making CS one of the worst possible majors to be enrolled in if your goal is job security and ease of life. However, if you are willing to code and learn day in and night out you will be fine. If you want to have a life, have fun, not have your world revolve around coding, then don't go into it. Use your intelligence in a better field (Law, medicine, engineering)
you wrote an essay too, only reason I wrote out that much was because you spewed a lot of incorrect shit I had to address + it's not hard writing out that much. Difference in capacity igWow. Imagine having nothing better to do with your time that you type an entire essay on this.
I skimmed through this and already facepalmed my shit. Nonetheless, I’ll respond to pitiful garbage tomorrow.
someone remind me
I didn’t write anywhere near as much as you did. And it took you like 30 minutes to write all that. Clearly you don’t have much to do with your time.you wrote an essay too, only reason I wrote out that much was because you spewed a lot of incorrect shit I had to address + it's not hard writing out that much. Difference in capacity igTake my dick out your mouth now, cuck.
takes you a whole day to write a piss take jfl![]()
you should know that physically writing something takes around 10% of the time the 90% is thinking of the arguments. In your case, it didn't take time to think about what to writeI didn’t write anywhere near as much as you did. And it took you like 30 minutes to write all that. Clearly you don’t have much to do with your time.
Since you enjoy writing essays so much, I have something for you.
yo gabeteenagecel here looking for direction in my life any suggestions
You should know that thinking still necessitates time consumption.you should know that physically writing something takes around 10% of the time the 90% is thinking of the arguments. In your case, it didn't take time to think about what to write![]()
It’s called having a job. Stop pestering me like an annoying flea and stfu, I’ll respond to your garbage (ironic because you talk about thinking) later on.edit: My typing speed is roughly 110wpm, I wrote around 1200 words, took me roughly 10 minutes to write a counter argument. (Even then, if you don't have 30 minutes to spare in your day, you're either working insanely inefficient at what you do, or you're a lazy bum)
Well done explaining the dying rate of CS, I myself am considering to go into CS in Canada but considering this I am probably cooked and will have to resort to tradesNot it can't be said, all the degrees you mentioned and their jobs associated with them are locked behind degrees and passing exams, CS is NOT. Medicine, psych, engineering, do not do purely computational tasks unlike CS(if your focus is on writing software), they are not entirely open-source/easy to find and most of their information (especially psych and medicine) are pay walled. Additionally their job positions are are reliant on degrees, passing examinations, and etc. (In CS you can be a nobody build a portfolio and land a job, it's not worth majoring in) (if your focus is on writing software). You gave 0 coherent arguments proving other wise, you're a retard.
As a intern/junior you are not expected to do your job perfectly, infact, the opposite is expected, they expect you to fumble here and there but slowly integrate into the job and become reliable through the years, have you even entered into a internship or worked as a junior in any field? Your anecdotal example does not offset my argument use data not anecdotes, and the data shows that it makes far fewer mistakes than interns/juniors, I don't know what prompt you fed chatgpt to get basics of C incorrect, but I can tell you for certain chatgpt (which isn't even made for programming) has exceptional knowledge on C. I've used it to write some snippets of code in C#, Lua, Py, CPP or to correct some of my mistakes and it does it flawlessly, additionally it also provides ways to improve it. The ability for AI is heavily reliant on the person asking the question, to me it seems you're not that good at writing prompts or asking questions. (skill issue). What basic tasks in c is it failing? Im confused on what basic concepts AI is failing on because it simply doesn't, you need to be more specific so we can test if what you're saying actually holds merit. Currently, the basics of c programming AI has it down pat and it writes in it far better than most graduates.
Yes it will need humans, but that individuals expertise has to be wayyy above what you think you currently need to operate it, that paired up with AI's rapid growth that bar is only getting higher and often getting higher faster than what people can keep up with. Ai is not entirely a "dependent tool" especially when it comes to CS, you CAN automate a junior developer work load with AI, but you will need to overlook it with a senior or intermediate dev to get the result you want, but then it will be capable of automating a intermediate dev's work load, while it's overlooked by a senior, then eventually a senior. Your view on this is extremely tunnel visioned, you fail to understand just why CS is inherently at risk to AI, and I feel sympathy for anyone who decides to take advice from your piss takes jfl.
Do automated ports(in china for example) replace port workers? yes. Does it replace the management who over see those devices? no?
However, we can see a clear trend that we obviously killed a set of workers in the port department while raising the bar to work in it.
Samething with AI and CS, just in the case with CS the ability to replace the overseers is possible while replacing those who overlook the machines/repair the port machines are not. (Maybe eventually when robotics advances enough but not in the near future)
The analogy you gave misrepresents the situation.
Statistically, CS also has the highest rates of rising unemployment. My argument is explaining that CS is a dying field not worth going into especially if you're medium intelligent. Logically, you should pursue a valued education (Medicine, law, engineering, or something that requires physical work) while learning how to code on the side (super easy to do now given how the entire field is open-source, and AI for teachers/guides
) Statistically I am correct, CS is a dying field, going into it now is career suicide. Logically it is best to pursue a valued degree in uni while learning CS on your free time. (CS is arguably the easiest field to get into as long as you have a computer and know how to leverage AI/open resources)
Why are you ignoring statistics? AI continually outpreforms human work on every metric that it can compete on. The studies are against you. In the areas AI can compete on, it beats the average/way above average humans in CS, Medicine, Law, statistics, etc. Yes... it is perfectly logical to assume the magic black box engineered by the smartest people that live on this planet today will be out competed by the post CS graduate.It doesn't take 2 IQ digits to understand how retarded your arguments are. (I'm guessing ur a post CS grad coping about ur inevitable unemployment unless you sell your soul to the field
).
Yes im familiar with the workflow of how to write code, you detail what you want, you write out the architecture and functions/tasks to be done step by step, then you write out the code itself etc. I work as a game dev for commissions on the side in unity, roblox, and unreal, I know how it flows, and im telling you, if you understand how to write prompts, ask the proper questions, you can get AI to do a relatively close job at accomplishing what you want. (Hence why I said it's at a junior level currently) I could ask it to create a rudimentary modular player data store process that has their level, money, owned items, and etc, and boom-I have a skeletal base system with a few kinks and jinks that all I have to do now is just read through it, remove redundancies, and add what's missing/not working. (what you'd expect to fix from a junior dev). And no, the majority of it is the coding itself, the architecture itself doesn't take me too long to figure out, it's fixing the unintended bugs and outcomes that come out of it during unforeseen situations/the stumps you encounter on fixing the said bugs. Which AI is massively helpful for when it comes to theorizing possible issues.
Code generators couldn't predict outcomes, they worked on static rules, AI is different as they can create code without following a fixed template it's more flexible and tailored to what you need. (almost like what a human is hired to do) , not only that but you can conversate with the AI to fix the appearing bugs as you go while it follows along. (almost like an extremely knowledgeable intern). If you fail to understand the discrepancies between AI and Code generators you shouldn't be talking about this topic. At all.
TLDR: Statisically, and logically, AI Is equipped with all the tools it needs to replace junior devs in the following years, and eventually intermediate to senior level devs. CS Is already seeing an increase in unemployment (highest out of all fields and the rate of it's increase is still rising). CS has 0 gate kept information and it's all fully documented/open-source making it perfect for AI to automate (it's how it learns). Additionally more people can get into it, increasing competition for jobs/positions (especially intern or junior level positions). Making CS one of the worst possible majors to be enrolled in if your goal is job security and ease of life. However, if you are willing to code and learn day in and night out you will be fine. If you want to have a life, have fun, not have your world revolve around coding, then don't go into it. Use your intelligence in a better field (Law, medicine, engineering)
Edit: You should also be looking at employment rates of post graduates in CS not all CS grads. This better reflects the reality of today
"having a job" *is on .org mid day* you're not employed faggotYou should know that thinking still necessitates time consumption.
It’s called having a job. Stop pestering me like an annoying flea and stfu, I’ll respond to your garbage (ironic because you talk about thinking) later on.
still learn how to code and operate computers though, the reason why CS as a degree/profession is dying is because of how common the skillset is becoming and its automation. Knowing how to code in maybe 1-3 languages and basic computer architecture will help you greatly in any field, the degree itself? is not worth pursuing though.Well done explaining the dying rate of CS, I myself am considering to go into CS in Canada but considering this I am probably cooked and will have to resort to trades![]()
if you take computer science just end your lifethoughts on cs? or getting raped by ai sooner or later
I feel that having experience while doing cs as an degree could help greatly, I mean it would be a waste of money but that degree could help extensively no?still learn how to code and operate computers though, the reason why CS as a degree/profession is dying is because of how common the skillset is becoming and its automation. Knowing how to code in maybe 1-3 languages and basic computer architecture will help you greatly in any field, the degree itself? is not worth pursuing though.
Yeah, you'd have credentials with the degree and the experience by working on projects while doing your degree. But that's just so much more work you have to do compared to other degrees just for entry positionsI feel that having experience while doing cs as an degree could help greatly, I mean it would be a waste of money but that degree could help extensively no?
Late reply, but im youngcel so im just started to think about itcomputer science. period.
do not be afraid of AI.
putting this aside, why are you asking which major to choose??? it should have been clear 3-4 years ago, dude.
you build an app, receive funding and go further. moreover, everything placed on the internet - no need to pay tons of money to unis(maybe for phd in future).
why people think cs is hard because it is fucking demanding. I am serious, dude. You really must love it. You cannot grind it )
job market also ALWAYS OPEN for smart people. For people who have built something instead of crying and using GPT and then saying AI IS GOING TO REPLACE ALL OF US. You idiots, you allow it to train from you, you learn from it, you degenerate using it, and then you say CS is cooked. idiots...