What's the biggest predictor of how much muscle you can build

[poreskin]

Not how the muscle will look (insertions or frame) but the actual amount of muscle you can build.

and I am currently training but I wanna get realistic expectations

with or without steroids

 

[polarpop]

nobody knows.

just lift.

 

[mopheadcody]

you can't tell

 

[fluffysprtsballhatr]

Your frame tends to be a good indicator. Are you a huge hulking beast? Or do you have wrists the size of the average american woman (like me. Rip.)

 

[midfacedeficient]

how much food you eat. 95% of the time when someone totally blows a cycle they under eat

 

[poreskin]

Your frame tends to be a good indicator. Are you a huge hulking beast? Or do you have wrists the size of the average american woman (like me. Rip.)

 

[poreskin]

Your frame tends to be a good indicator. Are you a huge hulking beast? Or do you have wrists the size of the average american woman (like me. Rip.)

my wrist is 6.5-6.6 inches but I have wide clavicles and huge hands but I also have thin bones and a small skull kinda

I'm generally considered and treated weak and lowt looking bc of these thin bones

 

[fluffysprtsballhatr]

my wrist is 6.5-6.6 inches but I have wide clavicles and huge hands but I also have thin bones and a small skull kinda

I'm generally considered and treated weak and lowt looking bc of these thin bones

bones continue to thicken into 30s. My Father has a ring from when he graduated uni (mid to late 20s) and it no longer fits on his ring finger (now fits on his pinky, which is a significant change for an already large hand). Atleast that's my cope for my woman hands.
A plus is that any muscle we gain will look more dramatic

 

[copecel111]

if youre thinking about hopping on roids, then there's something called the AR CAG-repeat length, which you can test for through a genetic test, basically shorter repeat length is correlated with higher androgen receptor sensitivity, but at that point just hop on and skip the hassle, as long as your training and nutrition are good youre probably gonna make good gains.

 

[poreskin]

bones continue to thicken into 30s. My Father has a ring from when he graduated uni (mid to late 20s) and it no longer fits on his ring finger (now fits on his pinky, which is a significant change for an already large hand). Atleast that's my cope for my woman hands.
A plus is that any muscle we gain will look more dramatic

you can get in a muscular shape but if you have thin bones, can you really get that thick grown man look? is it possible

in shape:
-----------------

THick and more robust grown man look with serious size:
----------------------

this is my current sorry for bad pic:
------

 

[poreskin]

if youre thinking about hopping on roids, then there's something called the AR CAG-repeat length, which you can test for through a genetic test, basically shorter repeat length is correlated with higher androgen receptor sensitivity, but at that point just hop on and skip the hassle, as long as your training and nutrition are good youre probably gonna make good gains.

this above

 

[fluffysprtsballhatr]

you can get in a muscular shape but if you have thin bones, can you really get that thick grown man look? is it possible

in shape:
-----------------
View attachment 5264645View attachment 5264646
View attachment 5264658
View attachment 5264649

THick and more robust grown man look with serious size:
----------------------

View attachment 5264629

View attachment 5264640View attachment 5264641







this is my current sorry for bad pic:
------
View attachment 5264652

I didnt clarify and i guess i didnt read beyond the title either lol (or remember which thread i was in). Generally smaller bones cam't carry as much muscle. But those images are hopefuel. Still they aren't tanks but look aesthetic and attractivr (for the most part. that's more so proportions and insertions) which is the goal.

 

[poreskin]

I didnt clarify and i guess i didnt read beyond the title either lol (or remember which thread i was in). Generally smaller bones cam't carry as much muscle. But those images are hopefuel. Still they aren't tanks but look aesthetic and attractivr (for the most part. that's more so proportions and insertions) which is the goal.

nah nigga I wanna look big