What’s the meaning to life?

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I just read someones post asking what’s the point of looksmaxing, and then he added what’s the point of living, and I genuinely think people overcomplicate this because they’re searching for some universal “why” that probably doesn’t exist.


There is no universal why. There is only your why.


You’re on this site for a reason. Maybe you want love, sex, confidence, status, respect, better treatment, or you just want to see how far you can improve. Eventually all of it cashes out into wanting, fearing, caring, curiosity, satisfaction, love, relief, aversion, etc.


And it doesn’t even have to be about “feeling good.” Wanting something and actually liking it aren’t even the exact same thing. Humans will pursue things they don’t necessarily enjoy because they still assign value to the outcome.


Even asking “what’s the point of living?” proves that something matters to you. Why are you asking? You want an answer. You want understanding or relief. If literally nothing mattered, you wouldn’t care enough to ask.


revealed preference. What you actually choose and do reveals what you value. You can tell me nothing matters to you all day, but your behavior exposes you. What you chase, avoid, fear losing, complain about and sacrifice for shows what matters to you.


Same thing with complaining. If you complain that you’re ugly, being attractive matters to you. If you complain that you’re lonely, connection matters to you. If you complain that you’re broke, money or what it gives you matters to you. The complaint itself reveals the value.


Your brain is also constantly assigning subjective value to completely different things. Food, money, social rewards, future outcomes, whatever. Completely different things can basically get translated into “how much does this matter to me?” so you can choose between them. This isn’t just some philosophical concept, valuation is literally built into how we make decisions.


But even the “I’m genetically cooked” argument only goes so far. We live in probably the first period in history where we can straight up defy a huge amount of what biology gave us. Surgery, orthodontics, hair transplants, medicine, skin treatments—the list keeps growing. Things that would’ve simply been your fate hundreds of years ago can now actually be changed.


Then someone says, “But surgery could go wrong. I could die.”


Okay.


If that outcome scares you, you just proved the point again.


Something about your life matters enough that you’re scared to lose it. Maybe it’s your family, your future, an experience you haven’t had yet, or maybe you don’t even know what it is. It doesn’t matter. The fear itself shows that there is something you value.


That doesn’t mean you can’t hate your circumstances. It means you can’t say absolutely nothing matters while constantly wishing your circumstances were different.


Maybe the mistake is asking “what is THE point of life?” when the real question is “what matters enough to ME that I keep choosing it?”


Why do you want to look better? Maybe for relationships. Why do you want relationships? Maybe because you want love and connection. Keep asking “why?” forever and eventually you reach something you simply care about.


That’s your why.


Mine can be completely different.


No meaning is needed beyond that.
 
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meaning of life is to live out your life how you want to and to reach what you define as contentness
 
I have read every single word, you make some nice points

What you say makes sense but we can't forget that it is human nature to want something, we always want more, our brains are built in a way that will never allow us to be satisfied with anything.

This instinct if you may call it that is innate, every human being has it at every point in their life.

This, however, doesn't mean that this subjective meaning can replace objective meaning, it doesn't even come close.

One should detach one's self from that subjectivity and should only accept objective meaning in one's life.

That is the only way to be at peace with yourself, accept objective meaning and realize that you don't matter

PS, sorry if my writing is bad but I'm in class and teach is looking at me:lul:
 
I just read someones post asking what’s the point of looksmaxing, and then he added what’s the point of living, and I genuinely think people overcomplicate this because they’re searching for some universal “why” that probably doesn’t exist.


There is no universal why. There is only your why.


You’re on this site for a reason. Maybe you want love, sex, confidence, status, respect, better treatment, or you just want to see how far you can improve. Eventually all of it cashes out into wanting, fearing, caring, curiosity, satisfaction, love, relief, aversion, etc.


And it doesn’t even have to be about “feeling good.” Wanting something and actually liking it aren’t even the exact same thing. Humans will pursue things they don’t necessarily enjoy because they still assign value to the outcome.


Even asking “what’s the point of living?” proves that something matters to you. Why are you asking? You want an answer. You want understanding or relief. If literally nothing mattered, you wouldn’t care enough to ask.


revealed preference. What you actually choose and do reveals what you value. You can tell me nothing matters to you all day, but your behavior exposes you. What you chase, avoid, fear losing, complain about and sacrifice for shows what matters to you.


Same thing with complaining. If you complain that you’re ugly, being attractive matters to you. If you complain that you’re lonely, connection matters to you. If you complain that you’re broke, money or what it gives you matters to you. The complaint itself reveals the value.


Your brain is also constantly assigning subjective value to completely different things. Food, money, social rewards, future outcomes, whatever. Completely different things can basically get translated into “how much does this matter to me?” so you can choose between them. This isn’t just some philosophical concept, valuation is literally built into how we make decisions.


But even the “I’m genetically cooked” argument only goes so far. We live in probably the first period in history where we can straight up defy a huge amount of what biology gave us. Surgery, orthodontics, hair transplants, medicine, skin treatments—the list keeps growing. Things that would’ve simply been your fate hundreds of years ago can now actually be changed.


Then someone says, “But surgery could go wrong. I could die.”


Okay.


If that outcome scares you, you just proved the point again.


Something about your life matters enough that you’re scared to lose it. Maybe it’s your family, your future, an experience you haven’t had yet, or maybe you don’t even know what it is. It doesn’t matter. The fear itself shows that there is something you value.


That doesn’t mean you can’t hate your circumstances. It means you can’t say absolutely nothing matters while constantly wishing your circumstances were different.


Maybe the mistake is asking “what is THE point of life?” when the real question is “what matters enough to ME that I keep choosing it?”


Why do you want to look better? Maybe for relationships. Why do you want relationships? Maybe because you want love and connection. Keep asking “why?” forever and eventually you reach something you simply care about.


That’s your why.


Mine can be completely different.


No meaning is needed beyond that.
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I just read someones post asking what’s the point of looksmaxing, and then he added what’s the point of living, and I genuinely think people overcomplicate this because they’re searching for some universal “why” that probably doesn’t exist.


There is no universal why. There is only your why.


You’re on this site for a reason. Maybe you want love, sex, confidence, status, respect, better treatment, or you just want to see how far you can improve. Eventually all of it cashes out into wanting, fearing, caring, curiosity, satisfaction, love, relief, aversion, etc.


And it doesn’t even have to be about “feeling good.” Wanting something and actually liking it aren’t even the exact same thing. Humans will pursue things they don’t necessarily enjoy because they still assign value to the outcome.


Even asking “what’s the point of living?” proves that something matters to you. Why are you asking? You want an answer. You want understanding or relief. If literally nothing mattered, you wouldn’t care enough to ask.


revealed preference. What you actually choose and do reveals what you value. You can tell me nothing matters to you all day, but your behavior exposes you. What you chase, avoid, fear losing, complain about and sacrifice for shows what matters to you.


Same thing with complaining. If you complain that you’re ugly, being attractive matters to you. If you complain that you’re lonely, connection matters to you. If you complain that you’re broke, money or what it gives you matters to you. The complaint itself reveals the value.


Your brain is also constantly assigning subjective value to completely different things. Food, money, social rewards, future outcomes, whatever. Completely different things can basically get translated into “how much does this matter to me?” so you can choose between them. This isn’t just some philosophical concept, valuation is literally built into how we make decisions.


But even the “I’m genetically cooked” argument only goes so far. We live in probably the first period in history where we can straight up defy a huge amount of what biology gave us. Surgery, orthodontics, hair transplants, medicine, skin treatments—the list keeps growing. Things that would’ve simply been your fate hundreds of years ago can now actually be changed.


Then someone says, “But surgery could go wrong. I could die.”


Okay.


If that outcome scares you, you just proved the point again.


Something about your life matters enough that you’re scared to lose it. Maybe it’s your family, your future, an experience you haven’t had yet, or maybe you don’t even know what it is. It doesn’t matter. The fear itself shows that there is something you value.


That doesn’t mean you can’t hate your circumstances. It means you can’t say absolutely nothing matters while constantly wishing your circumstances were different.


Maybe the mistake is asking “what is THE point of life?” when the real question is “what matters enough to ME that I keep choosing it?”


Why do you want to look better? Maybe for relationships. Why do you want relationships? Maybe because you want love and connection. Keep asking “why?” forever and eventually you reach something you simply care about.


That’s your why.


Mine can be completely different.


No meaning is needed beyond that.
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DI EN AR
 
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THE MEANING TO LIFE is to achieve maximum distance to abject awful feelings such as depression, anxiety, sadness, loneliness and self loathing

HOW YOU GO ABOUT distancing yourself to said negative emotions is for you to figure out
 
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I have read every single word, you make some nice points

What you say makes sense but we can't forget that it is human nature to want something, we always want more, our brains are built in a way that will never allow us to be satisfied with anything.

This instinct if you may call it that is innate, every human being has it at every point in their life.

This, however, doesn't mean that this subjective meaning can replace objective meaning, it doesn't even come close.

One should detach one's self from that subjectivity and should only accept objective meaning in one's life.

That is the only way to be at peace with yourself, accept objective meaning and realize that you don't matter

PS, sorry if my writing is bad but I'm in class and teach is looking at me:lul:
I don’t need subjective meaning to replace objective meaning. If objective values exist, I can incorporate them into my own life. But my life still has to be lived subjectively, because I’m the one experiencing, choosing, caring and acting. Meaning can exist at both levels.
 
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I don’t need subjective meaning to replace objective meaning. If objective values exist, I can incorporate them into my own life. But my life still has to be lived subjectively, because I’m the one experiencing, choosing, caring and acting. Meaning can exist at both levels.
It's your choice obviously, I feel like the better option is simply rejecting subjective meaning, when you realize that nothing you do really matters and that all actions lead to the same outcome (death), you start living way more peacefully with yourself
 
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It's your choice obviously, I feel like the better option is simply rejecting subjective meaning, when you realize that nothing you do really matters and that all actions lead to the same outcome (death), you start living way more peacefully with yourself
But your behavior kind of contradicts that right now. Choosing to spend time on a forum explaining your view to me is itself a subjective choice based on something you value. And when you say rejecting subjective meaning lets you live more peacefully, peace is also a subjective state that you clearly prefer over the alternative.


So even if you believe nothing has objective or cosmic meaning, you still seem to be acting through subjective values and preferences constantly.
 
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But your behavior kind of contradicts that right now. Choosing to spend time on a forum explaining your view to me is itself a subjective choice based on something you value. And when you say rejecting subjective meaning lets you live more peacefully, peace is also a subjective state that you clearly prefer over the alternative.


So even if you believe nothing has objective or cosmic meaning, you still seem to be acting through subjective values and preferences constantly.
It's human nature, no one on this planet could ever truly act of those beliefs

The point of having those beliefs is being able to justify any action, I'd be fine with doing anything, including explaining this to you.
That's because I know that the outcome does not change no matter what I do

I'd write a longer answer but my teacher almost caught me:lul:
 

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