CopeAndRope
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When is a chin too wide for the face?
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his mouth is narrow for his chinThis is not too wide for you?
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Fuark so much for muh environment copers
what?Fuark so much for muh environment copers
Looking at this gigaslayer curries make me become really blackpilled about how much curries are raped by their pheno. Brutal ethnicitypillhis mouth is narrow for his chin
if he didnt have that mouth be narrow for his chin and his fucking bald ass head failo it would look alright
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this is an example of why tbh
sad shit tbh. probably millions of south Indian uberchads who are invisible to the rest of the world because of pitch black skin.Looking at this gigaslayer curries make me become really blackpilled about how much curries are raped by their pheno. Brutal ethnicitypill
tbh this fucking uber predator beast humanWell they have big bones, but not like this, also, Native Americans don't have short midfaces, but yes, SLAYER
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Yup. I'm worried that with the slow expansion I will not realize how wide it will become until it's too late.I presume you are worried about MSDO making your chin too wide?
Do you really think it's healthy (or even possible) to have your mandible split for 1 year?Yup. I'm worried that with the slow expansion I will not realize how wide it will become until it's too late.
Yet they had horrible eye areaWell they have big bones, but not like this, also, Native Americans don't have short midfaces, but yes, SLAYER
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You can't keep the mandible split for 1 year because unlike a split suture, here we have a full bone cut that has to be expanded 0.5mm every 12 hours to not let it close completely, depending on the type of msdo do you realize that by the end of the year you'll have a chin 36.5 cm wide.Do you really think it's healthy (or even possible) to have your mandible split for 1 year?
explain?
You cut your mandible, you install an MSDO, expand 0.5mm every 12 hours, stop when you're happy, use braces to bring teeth back in the position where there's the new bone.explain?
You cut your mandible, you install an MSDO, expand 0.5mm every 12 hours, stop when you're happy, use braces to bring teeth back in the position where there's the new bone.
is there any results of this?You cut your mandible, you install an MSDO, expand 0.5mm every 12 hours, stop when you're happy, use braces to bring teeth back in the position where there's the new bone.
it's over. Sometimes i just can't fucking belive that so much bonemass is even possible on human
is there any results of this?
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are there any downsides to this?
would you need to use this in turn with mse ?
fucking hell. if I truly do expand my palate to 55+ by mewing would It be adisable to do this?Now downsides apart from the incredible pain of the first week of your mandible being cut in 2.
If you expand your lower jaw, you need to expand your upper jaw as well. Unless you prefer a transverse underbite.
If you have a transverse overbite yes. Personally I think that expanding the palate by mewing alone is cope, mse is the real deal.fucking hell. if I truly do expand my palate to 55+ by mewing would It be adisable to do this?
alright. its working so farIf you have a transverse overbite yes. Personally I think that expanding the palate by mewing alone is cope, mse is the real deal.
You seem to be high IQ, would a traditional palate expander work on an 18 year old, or do I need to get SARPE/SARME?Now downsides apart from the incredible pain of the first week of your mandible being cut in 2.
If you expand your lower jaw, you need to expand your upper jaw as well. Unless you prefer a transverse underbite.
It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to only reshape the alveolar bridge, you can use a traditional tooth-anchored expander. If you want deep skeletal expansion involving the maxilla and indirectly the surrounding bones, go for the mse.You seem to be high IQ, would a traditional palate expander work on an 18 year old, or do I need to get SARPE/SARME?
I guess ill go for the MSE then lol, see the thing is my maxilla is forward grown, but my palate is narrow for my face because ive got an above average bizygomatic. And on top of that ive got a 10mm overbite as well, what would you say I should do?It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to only reshape the alveolar bridge, you can use a traditional tooth-anchored expander. If you want deep skeletal expansion involving the maxilla and indirectly the surrounding bones, go for the mse.
What would be the total cost of MSE + FP (yours) + MSDO?It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to only reshape the alveolar bridge, you can use a traditional tooth-anchored expander. If you want deep skeletal expansion involving the maxilla and indirectly the surrounding bones, go for the mse.
I think you should go to a doctor and hear his advice first. I'm just a random guy on the internet lol. Anyway, probably he'll offer you straight away surgery, that fucker. Just say, you heard MSE+MSDO can have the same results if not better.I guess ill go for the MSE then lol, see the thing is my maxilla is forward grown, but my palate is narrow for my face because ive got an above average bizygomatic. And on top of that ive got a 10mm overbite as well, what would you say I should do?
It depends on the location. And keep in mind that you'll need braces too.What would be the total cost of MSE + FP (yours) + MSDO?
Does MSDO move the lower jaw forward?I think you should go to a doctor and hear his advice first. I'm just a random guy on the internet lol. Anyway, probably he'll offer you straight away surgery, that fucker. Just say, you heard MSE+MSDO can have the same results if not better.
It depends on the location. And keep in mind that you'll need braces too.
No, only laterally. You need bsso for that.Does MSDO move the lower jaw forward?
Let me have this clear, MSE expands the maxilla laterally, FP moves the maxilla forwards and upwards (?), MSDO expands the lower jaw laterally and BSSO moves the lower jaw forward?No, only laterally. You need bsso for that.
YupLet me have this clear, MSE expands the maxilla laterally, FP moves the maxilla forwards and upwards (?), MSDO expands the lower jaw laterally and BSSO moves the lower jaw forward?
damn, combine them all and you have a fucking lefort 4
Exactly, for a lower cost, safer, and more natural results.damn, combine them all and you have a fucking lefort 4
But when you expand the mandible in just 2 weeks wouldn't you run into condiles problems? Or should you go with MSE as far as possible (considering you might be able to expand 5-6 mm before problems with lateral over bite) and than start MSDO?You can't keep the mandible split for 1 year because unlike a split suture, here we have a full bone cut that has to be expanded 0.5mm every 12 hours to not let it close completely, depending on the type of msdo do you realize that by the end of the year you'll have a chin 36.5 cm wide.
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The mse is different, you can expand up to 12mm and keep it screwed in so you can keep pulling it forward.
Exactly, for a lower cost, safer, and more natural results.
That's another form of distraction osteogenesis that can substitute bsso, but not msdo.Watchu think about this instead of MSDO plus BSSO? like an alternative basically.IMDO™ | For Adults
IMDO™ is a revolutionary way to fix a small jaw and big overbite, with better outcomes and in less time than traditional orthodontics.www.profilosurgical.com.au
In the studies I read, there was no problem with the condyles. The bone displacement gradually diminishes getting away from the split.But when you expand the mandible in just 2 weeks wouldn't you run into condiles problems? Or should you go with MSE as far as possible (considering you might be able to expand 5-6 mm before problems with lateral over bite) and than start MSDO?
It's not by mere chance they have LONG HAIRS.Well they have big bones, but not like this, also, Native Americans don't have short midfaces, but yes, SLAYER
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enjoy tmj
I would not, even with 10mm expansion.enjoy tmj
you would have to cut ramus loose also then
MSDO is a shit surgeryI would not, even with 10mm expansion.
Why you're so full of shit @Dr Shekelberg ?MSDO is a shit surgery
It is unstable, difficult, gives TMJ, and results still are unfeasible
There were no significant changes in bicondylar, bigonial, and biantigonial widths. At the long-term follow-up, there were no significant changes in the interdental or skeletal measurements
The results indicate that the expansion of the mandibular arch with MSDO and conventional orthodontic mechanics produces no statistically significant transverse changes from posttreatment to long-term follow-up.
I seeWhy you're so full of shit @Dr Shekelberg ?
Long-term skeletal and dental stability of mandibular symphyseal distraction osteogenesis with a hybrid distractor - PubMed
The results indicate that the expansion of the mandibular arch with MSDO and conventional orthodontic mechanics produces no statistically significant transverse changes from posttreatment to long-term follow-up. The risks of using a surgical procedure and MSDO to achieve additional expansion...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
@CopeAndRope bringing the heat again! My upper palate and chin are both narrow af. If I can I might even do 2 rounds of mse over a year and msdo after to make up for all the expansion. Gonna shoot for like 2 cm on both. I will make it my niggasLet me have this clear, MSE expands the maxilla laterally, FP moves the maxilla forwards and upwards (?), MSDO expands the lower jaw laterally and BSSO moves the lower jaw forward?