What's the point of self improvement?

[Mongrelcel]

If you're genetically garbage?

You wouldn't keep spending money on an old broken down piece of trash car

Then why invest time into yourself?

If you lack height, face, athletic build, but even more importantly traits that have to do with your mental facilities

It's just not worth it. Its wasted effort.

You don't even deserve to be spend any effort on - even by yourself.

 

[Deleted member 9274]

It depends if you truely are genetic garbage or that you are feeling that way wich makes sense. Daily reminder that real genetic garbage is as rare as chad is so i doubt youre ugly.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

It depends if you truely are genetic garbage or that you are feeling that way wich makes sense. Daily reminder that real genetic garbage is as rare as chad is so i doubt youre ugly.

genetic waste for society = sub5 man

 

[Mongrelcel]

It depends if you truely are genetic garbage or that you are feeling that way wich makes sense. Daily reminder that real genetic garbage is as rare as chad is so i doubt youre ugly.

even if you are a slightly below average man its not worth it

there is a guy out there thats the same as you but taller
but better looking
or both

and hes putting in effort in himself as well

and hes going to fuck the girl
to have friends

life is a zero sum game for men

 

[Sal]

Friendly reminder to keep mewing if you quit.

 

[Deleted member 11414]

The mental health benefits

 

[Entschuldigung]

Brb buying a new body

 

[Mongrelcel]

like why gym?

when you never will have a good physique? because its genetically impossible

and no-one will ever even acknowledge that you work out
you will never get any of the benefits men get from gym: more attention, mogging other men ...

@Edgar

 

[Deleted member 9274]

even if you are a slightly below average man its not worth it

there is a guy out there thats the same as you but taller
but better looking
or both

and hes putting in effort in himself as well

and hes going to fuck the girl
to have friends

life is a zero sum game for men

True but you have 3 options. Ascend as far as you can, LDAR or rope. There will always someone that is better than you. Just make sure that your in the top 20% or further.

 

[Deleted member 275]

like why gym?

when you never will have a good physique? because its genetically impossible

and no-one will ever even acknowledge that you work out
you will never get any of the benefits men get from gym: more attention, mogging other men ...

@Edgar

Validation from others is useless. Only thing that matters is that you can admire yourself.

Other people's opinions are worthless. Sigma grindset rule #745

 

[Deleted member 275]

 

[Deleted member 6531]

If you're improving your self for the validation of other people you'll never be happy.

Do improve yourself for your own sake. You don't need women or male friends to aadmire your looksmaxxing.

If you get better looking and you know it, you'll feel happy as long as you don't compare yourself to models and shit

"Comparison is the thief to joy" or some shit like that

 

[Mongrelcel]

Do improve yourself for your own sake

giga cope

validation is the only thing i crave

 

[thegoat]

like why gym?

when you never will have a good physique? because its genetically impossible

and no-one will ever even acknowledge that you work out
you will never get any of the benefits men get from gym: more attention, mogging other men ...

@Edgar

Depends if you are absolutely sure its impossible for you to have a good physique. I have trash tier gym genetics and had nearly no visible gains for 1.5 years, but still kept going (hardest shit ive ever done tbh, having no positive feedback is fucking brutal). And finally when I cut down from 20% bodyfat to 15% I looked ok. No where near as good as my mates who literally put less effort than me, but at least better than the average dude on the beach. For some people gaining muscle is genetically impossible (e.g. stick a 10 year old in the gym and he wont progress for shit), but this like <5% of people. IF you are genuinely part of the 5% then im sorry.


Also, most gym-goers are casuals and don't look good at all. Plenty of fat women etc. You won't necessarily feel out of place. A lean physique with a bit of muscle will definitely get you attention from normies, even though gymgoers can easily pick you apart for shit like small delts etc. I do agree that its very fucking difficult to do anything in life without positive feedback/validation.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Depends if you are absolutely sure its impossible for you to have a good physique. I have trash tier gym genetics and had nearly no visible gains for 1.5 years, but still kept going (hardest shit ive ever done tbh, having no positive feedback is fucking brutal). And finally when I cut down from 20% bodyfat to 15% I looked ok. No where near as good as my mates who literally put less effort than me, but at least better than the average dude on the beach. For some people gaining muscle is genetically impossible (e.g. stick a 10 year old in the gym and he wont progress for shit), but this like <5% of people. IF you are genuinely part of the 5% then im sorry.

I will be able to build a good physique - for pictures

in actual real life i will simply never be "big" enough, my skeleton is just too small to be considered "jacked"
i will look like a kid with muscle

A lean physique with a bit of muscle will definitely get you attention from normies

I highly doubt that

maybe if chad + tall + great genetics, borad shoulders etc...

a normie or incel with lean muscular physique wont be getting shit

the body standards for men are so distorted nowdays that unless you are roided people automatically think youre skinny

 

[Mongrelcel]

Just make sure that your in the top 20% or further

that I wont be simply because of my stats - face, height, frame, wrist size...

 

[Deleted member 9274]

that I wont be simply because of my stats - face, height, frame, wrist size...

Brutal tbh. Has someone on PSL ever rated you or have you not done that yet? Are you having a period of self doubt again OP?

 

[oatmeal]

well idk you irl

but ig if you feel that way you can give up i guess. but idk why but i dont feel you would be content as that either

 

[Edgar]

If you're genetically garbage?

You wouldn't keep spending money on an old broken down piece of trash car

Then why invest time into yourself?

If you lack height, face, athletic build, but even more importantly traits that have to do with your mental facilities

It's just not worth it. Its wasted effort.

You don't even deserve to be spend any effort on - even by yourself.

I respect you but you haven't seen true genetic garbage it seems. Disabled and mentally retarded people are genetic garbage. Chad with rare early onset fatal disease is genetic garbage.

 

[Edgar]

like why gym?

when you never will have a good physique? because its genetically impossible

and no-one will ever even acknowledge that you work out
you will never get any of the benefits men get from gym: more attention, mogging other men ...

@Edgar

If you enjoy doing it, keep doing it.
Also unironically people think I work out but I don't jfll. Only do pull ups every once in a while

 

[Edgar]

I respect you but you haven't seen true genetic garbage it seems. Disabled and mentally retarded people are genetic garbage. Chad with rare early onset fatal disease is genetic garbage.

I mean disabled from birth obviously, not accident related

 

[oatmeal]

Brutal tbh. Has someone on PSL ever rated you or have you not done that yet? Are you having a period of self doubt again OP?

Tbh a lot of pslers do this weird thing of a constsant loop of bargaining/depression

a lot of people have "accepted its over" but tbh clearly havent and are just cobstantly catastrophizing and posting about it

so either its not ovet for them, or they keep torturing themselves over the same bullshit over and over

make up your mind guys

 

[Mongrelcel]

Brutal tbh. Has someone on PSL ever rated you or have you not done that yet? Are you having a period of self doubt again OP?

no, I have never doxxed myself
my psl knowledge is amongst the best anyway
and my entire life is a period of self doubt

it would be better to say i have periods of self belief jfl

I respect you but you haven't seen true genetic garbage it seems. Disabled and mentally retarded people are genetic garbage. Chad with rare early onset fatal disease is genetic garbage.

well thats one way of looking at things

If you enjoy doing it, keep doing it.
Also unironically people think I work out but I don't jfll. Only do pull ups every once in a while

I dont, its painful to go to the gym, i get mogged too much

and here you can see what I'm talking about
you dont work out and yet you are more muscular than me
why dont you start when you have obviously good genes?


also mirin perfrct post to rep ratio

 

[volcelfatcel]

Validation from others is useless. Only thing that matters is that you can admire yourself.

Other people's opinions are worthless. Sigma grindset rule #745

Badboys.org after roiding (med passing)

 

[oatmeal]

Tbh a lot of pslers do this weird thing of a constsant loop of bargaining/depression

a lot of people have "accepted its over" but tbh clearly havent and are just cobstantly catastrophizing and posting about it

so either its not ovet for them, or they keep torturing themselves over the same bullshit over and over

make up your mind guys

for whats it worth though i wish u well op

 

[Deleted member 6531]

giga cope

validation is the only thing i crave

That's because you feel as though you have something to prove to other people because of negative feedback from women and shit from when you were young and wanting "Chad treatment"

You gotta sort out your mental health, because if all you crave is validation you'll just end up like never being satisfied with your face and always doing surgery.

 

[thegoat]

I will be able to build a good physique - for pictures

in actual real life i will simply never be "big" enough, my skeleton is just too small to be considered "jacked"
i will look like a kid with muscle


I highly doubt that

maybe if chad + tall + great genetics, borad shoulders etc...

a normie or incel with lean muscular physique wont be getting shit

the body standards for men are so distorted nowdays that unless you are roided people automatically think youre skinny

Youre coping hard bro its so easy to mog the average dad bod normies have no idea how to judge a physique

 

[Mongrelcel]

You gotta sort out your mental health, because if all you crave is validation you'll just end up like never being satisfied with your face and always doing surgery.

how tf can you "sort out your mental health" when you have no friends & never had any interest from women? JFL

 

[Mongrelcel]

Youre coping hard bro its so easy to mog the average dad bod normies have no idea how to judge a physique

it's not
it's impossible actually

a dad bod guy mogs me because he doesent have fucking thin wrists and shit small skeleton
even fat or skinnyfat they look more massive & strong than me

 

[Jason Voorhees]

U ascend or die trying

 

[Deleted member 6531]

how tf can you "sort out your mental health" when you have no friends & never had any interest from women? JFL

Bruh.

There's more to fucking life than women.I wish I could tell you guys this but you won't understand till you get a girlfriend that is if it ever happens . You'll realise women are great but also very overrated and emotionally draining, after this you won't put women on such a high pedestal.

Make friends. Stop sitting on your computer and go and socialise with other dudes, even if they're bluepilled and shit you'll have fun if you connect with them on certain hobbies and shit.

Fixing your mental health is key and it can only be done by getting off blackpill forums 24/7 and actually going outside and socialising with people and realising there more to life than women and dating

 

[Mongrelcel]

Make friends. Stop sitting on your computer and go and socialise with other dudes, even if they're bluepilled and shit you'll have fun if you connect with them on certain hobbies and shit.

I cant make friends

not having any social circle hurts me more than being incel

i mean if I had a decent social circle I probably wouldnt even be an incel in the first place

 

[Mongrelcel]

Stop sitting on your computer and go and socialise with other dudes

simplistic way of thinking, there is no such a place where I can do so

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

Depends if you are absolutely sure its impossible for you to have a good physique. I have trash tier gym genetics and had nearly no visible gains for 1.5 years, but still kept going (hardest shit ive ever done tbh, having no positive feedback is fucking brutal). And finally when I cut down from 20% bodyfat to 15% I looked ok. No where near as good as my mates who literally put less effort than me, but at least better than the average dude on the beach. For some people gaining muscle is genetically impossible (e.g. stick a 10 year old in the gym and he wont progress for shit), but this like <5% of people. IF you are genuinely part of the 5% then im sorry.


Also, most gym-goers are casuals and don't look good at all. Plenty of fat women etc. You won't necessarily feel out of place. A lean physique with a bit of muscle will definitely get you attention from normies, even though gymgoers can easily pick you apart for shit like small delts etc. I do agree that its very fucking difficult to do anything in life without positive feedback/validation.

Then roid nigger

 

[Deleted member 756]

how tf can you "sort out your mental health" when you have no friends & never had any interest from women? JFL

How old are you?

 

[thegoat]

That's because you feel as though you have something to prove to other people because of negative feedback from women and shit from when you were young and wanting "Chad treatment"

You gotta sort out your mental health, because if all you crave is validation you'll just end up like never being satisfied with your face and always doing surgery.

Doesnt everyone crave validation though? Humans are social creatures, were just wired that way, we get intense satisfaction from being better than others, you can't just ignore this basic human need. 99% of females and the top 50% of males get validation from the opposite gender. Its really just incels that are missing out, unless theyre successful in some other area.

 

[Ronnie]

If you're genetically garbage?

You wouldn't keep spending money on an old broken down piece of trash car

Then why invest time into yourself?

If you lack height, face, athletic build, but even more importantly traits that have to do with your mental facilities

It's just not worth it. Its wasted effort.

You don't even deserve to be spend any effort on - even by yourself.

always have thought that self improvement is scam. It gives off the wrong message that you are no good the way you are. Now that shouldn’t be misinterpreted. If you are overweight then maybe it’s in your own best interest to hit up the gym. Now I wouldn’t call that self improvement. That’s just being a normal person that cares. Either way like OP suggested no amount of self improvement can fix ugly.

 

[Mongrelcel]

always have thought that self improvement is scam. It gives off the wrong message that you are no good the way you are. Now that shouldn’t be misinterpreted. If you are overweight then maybe it’s in your own best interest to hit up the gym. Now I wouldn’t call that self improvement. That’s just being a normal person that cares. Either way like OP suggested no amount of self improvement can fix ugly.

self improvement basically means admitting you're subhuman since women & normies don't need to hit the gym, watch pua etc to get into a relationship

 

[Yliaster]

Getting mogged by Chads is a meme.These guys are just too rare to be our immediate competition.Rather,our actual competition are dudes in that HTN to Chadlite range,that's who I mostly see at the Gym,on Social Media etc who are poaching all of the women.

If you are not severely deformed or a complete Mentalcel,then it is not over for you,the caveat though is that you will have to put in a lot of effort,which is something most people don't like to hear.

 

[AlexAP]

Your chances will grow if you improve yourself.

A better version of yourself is always better, it's only over if you have tried everything and don't succeed.

 

[datboijj]

giga cope

validation is the only thing i crave

so if there was a magical world where you stay the same
but everyone treats you like a giga chad
or a a world where you look like a gigia chad
but everyone treats you the same as you are now
which world would you choose?

 

[Need2Ascend]

Happiness = making Progress

 

[Mongrelcel]

Getting mogged by Chads is a meme.These guys are just too rare to be our immediate competition.Rather,our actual competition are dudes in that HTN to Chadlite range,that's who I mostly see at the Gym,on Social Media etc who are poaching all of the women.

you're right, but most of these guys have height

not sure if a 5'10 guy can compete with a 6'2 or 6'3 males
regardless of physique or even face (let's be honest, most people won't be able to achieve face good enough to beat 5 inches of height)