What’s the point of states if they aren’t ethnicity based?

[Incelforeever]

If other ethnicity’s get the same treatment in a country that’s literally based and was created by ur people/ethnic group, and ur country provides them with equal everything ofc they would come in and eventually replace u. They would become a majority and overpower u legally and physically. Sure u can co exist with each other but than what’s the point of countries anyway if not to separate and be distinct

 

[Jason Voorhees]

If states only exist to keep one ethnic group on top, the United States had no point from the start

 

[Incelforeever]

If states only exist to keep one ethnic group on top, the United States had no point from the start

USA is an amalgamation of different groups. It’s the center hub of globalization on the planet. Point being is that if ur group people establish and created state, ofc it’s in their best interest to stay at the top. Does that mean No outsiders? Of course not but there has to be a limit and u have to maintain culture

 

[overforme3]

USA is an amalgamation of different groups. It’s the center hub of globalization on the planet. Point being is that if ur group people establish and created state, ofc it’s in their best interest to stay at the top. Does that mean No outsiders? Of course not but there has to be a limit and u have to maintain culture

sure then the europeans who claim to be natives should get the fuck out and give the native americans their land back

 

[Incelforeever]

sure then the europeans who claim to be natives should get the fuck out and give the native americans their land back

Im not here talking about retarded concepts such as somehow giving land back (nobody has rightful claim over land in the grandscheme of things) im just wondering whats the point of states/countries if not being ethno based + why would people not maintain their people power and self intrest in the country they created? why allow other nations to come it and potentially overpower and replace them

 

[fatchudlarpingchad]

If other ethnicity’s get the same treatment in a country that’s literally based and was created by ur people/ethnic group, and ur country provides them with equal everything ofc they would come in and eventually replace u. They would become a majority and overpower u legally and physically. Sure u can co exist with each other but than what’s the point of countries anyway if not to separate and be distinct

Power

 

[overforme3]

Im not here talking about retarded concepts such as somehow giving land back (nobody has rightful claim over land in the grandscheme of things) im just wondering whats the point of states/countries if not being ethno based + why would people not maintain their people power and self intrest in the country they created? why allow other nations to come it and potentially overpower and replace them

because nobody has rightful claim over land in the grandscheme of things ? concepts arent retarded you are you dont even know what youre saying what you believe and what you talk about contradicts each other

 

[Incelforeever]

Power

what power are u getting from integrating other ethnicitys and letting them come in and overpower u in ur country? the country might get stronger economically with more slaves but who gives a fuck if they replace u? not to mention than again, why not go completely global and have 1 big state for the entire planet?

 

[Incelforeever]

because nobody has rightful claim over land in the grandscheme of things ? concepts arent retarded you are you dont even know what youre saying what you believe and what you talk about contradicts each other

The concept of somehow magically having a rightful claim over a piece of land because u allegedly were there first is retarded.

what i talk about doesnt contradict anything, im asking A - whats the point of countries if not to seprate people and B - why ethnic groups that created those countries give away power over what they created

 

[overforme3]

The concept of somehow magically having a rightful claim over a piece of land because u allegedly were there first is retarded.

what i talk about doesnt contradict anything, im asking A - whats the point of countries if not to seprate people and B - why ethnic groups that created those countries give away power over what they created

BRO they give away power over what their land because " the concept of somehow magically having a rightful claim over a piece of land because u allegedly were there first is retarded?" what is theirs to give ?

 

[Incelforeever]

BRO they give away power over what their land because " the concept of somehow magically having a rightful claim over a piece of land because u allegedly were there first is retarded?" what is theirs to give ?

I laughed at the notion of a “rightful” claim over a piece of land, not about the notion of power. Willingly giving away power over a land is what I’m asking about + what’s the point of states themself if not for separation and maintaining ur peoples power but than u ALLOW other groups to live in ur current land and eventually overpower u willingly

 

[Hess]

sure then the europeans who claim to be natives should get the fuck out and give the native americans their land back

Where did he argue that people have an inherent claim to their land? its in white interests to keep and expand their land as it is for other groups, why do you think expansion happen? a state is always going to be something that is suppose to represent the ethnic group that made it and chases their interests alone

 

[overforme3]

Where did he argue that people have an inherent claim to their land? its in white interests to keep and expand their land as it is for other groups, why do you think expansion happen? a state is always going to be something that is suppose to represent the ethnic group that made it and chases their interests alone

it isnt their fucking land why cant you two just read what you yourself write if the usa represents an ethnic group it should be the actual americans not europeans who stole the land? if indians swarmed europe and made it india would you consider it representing india

 

[Hess]

If states only exist to keep one ethnic group on top, the United States had no point from the start

The united states and american ethnogenesis was explicitly done in rejection of black slaves and native americans, thomas jefferson described it as a republic for the white race alone, it very much kept one group on top


"Hamilton said... that all the old world [Europe] was in a state of alignment... that there was no such thing as a regular government there... that we were the only republic of the white race in existence." Thomas Jefferson

 

[Hess]

it isnt their fucking land why cant you two just read what you yourself write if the usa represents an ethnic group it should be the actual americans not europeans who stole the land?

Because there is no concept of magically owning a land lmfao its owned via violence and power, you can should be and would be all you want but america was created from its inceptions for white americans alone, and they took it via rite of conquest

if indians swarmed europe and made it india would you consider it representing india

Yes, which is exactly why I oppose it, you have to actively maintain and preserve your power over your land if you want to call it yours, otherwise if another group manages to take it then yes it becomes theirs.

 

[overforme3]

Because there is no concept of magically owning a land lmfao its owned via violence and power, you can should be and would be all you want but america was created from its inceptions for white americans alone, and they took it via rite of conquest

Yes, which is exactly why I oppose it, you have to actively maintain and preserve your power over your land if you want to call it yours, otherwise if another group manages to take it then yes it becomes theirs.

man why cant we just all live in peace fuck this world

 

[Hess]

man why cant we just all live in peace fuck this world

Because violence, power and struggle are the laws of life

 

[Incelforeever]

it isnt their fucking land why cant you two just read what you yourself write if the usa represents an ethnic group it should be the actual americans not europeans who stole the land? if indians swarmed europe and made it india would you consider it representing india

The usa was made by those same europeans, and Natives are not more american than anyone else living in that continent but anyway...

Im not talking about land here dude, im talking about self intrest and maintaining power for ur people instead of trying to be integrate other nations inside ur own nation and destroy the point of ur country. Almost every country on the planet started as being based on the name of the people ethnic group that created it (not exactly but u get my point), its an extention of tribes in the past to a more modern term. Why create a country if u dont maintain ur peoples power in that country?

 

[Whatever]

The state is both a business itself and the meeting point of all business. It’s nothing other than capitalism. Fascism doesn’t acknowledge this and this is why it always fails, the state can’t represent the nation because it steals from the nation.

 

[Incelforeever]

The state is both a business itself and the meeting point of all business. It’s nothing other than capitalism. Fascism doesn’t acknowledge this and this is why it always fails, the state can’t represent the nation because it steals from the nation.

U would think that initially those people at the top would still have some sort of tribalistic instincts to maintain their own but they just prioritise the enconomy and their own comfort and just let other groups of people infilatrate and replace them and theres nothing they can do about it

 

[skool]

If other ethnicity’s get the same treatment in a country that’s literally based and was created by ur people/ethnic group, and ur country provides them with equal everything ofc they would come in and eventually replace u. They would become a majority and overpower u legally and physically. Sure u can co exist with each other but than what’s the point of countries anyway if not to separate and be distinct

When I was kid I always to think I'll go to UK, US or Australia or any EU country just to tour their countries and know their culture. Sadly I don't think I'll be ever able to experience that because of recent demographics and mindset change of people