What’s your problem with college degrees?

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I never understood the one sided beef of people opposing getting a college degree. As long as it isn't a useless major like liberal arts, english (JFL at this), or queer studies, it's literally a jump start if you know what you're doing. By no means is it an easy hack, but it sure is rewarding.

CS majors once done from an Ivy League or a decently known college, median salary is 135k per annum in the US which is definitely enough to finance a brand new S Class/ Cadillac Escalade/ GLS AMG or a 3 year old G wagon without draining your pockets.

In medical fields I personally know doctors who make 400k a year, this particular family drives a 4Runner but they can easily afford a Lambo truck or a Ferrari, or a collection of cars including a 7 series + mustang + CT5 blackwing and much more alike. These people have studycelled for around 10-12 years after high school, many are from comfortable families so no college debt. But just look at where they are in life rn -

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In fact 22/25 top earning branches in 2024 were all just doctor specialities. So if you are anything less than 17 while reading this, somewhat NT you have the highest chance of becoming the top 1% by just getting a doctor’s degree in super speciality. It’s a long journey but a fruitful one. If you are wondering that you gotta studycel until the age 30, you’ll be 30 one day anyways nigga so just rather be 30 not being broke and with some serious professional skills that could earn you money.
 
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sour grapes from NEETs that are too far gone to go back.
 
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These people have studycelled for around 10-12 years after high school, many are from comfortable families so no college debt. But just look at where they are in life rn -
Do you unironically think that studying for 10-12 years without being put into a crippling financial position is possible for the layman?
What a shitty argument.
You're using careers that require many more years, perhaps decades of studying as opposed to standard degrees, to actually get into said career for reference as to what some people earn out of university, and then use that to justify university when it's simply-put much more nuanced than that.
Yes, some university degrees enable you to make a huge income. Yes, some university degrees don't enable you to make a huge income.
Thanks for your incredible insight.
 
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Do you unironically think that studying for 10-12 years without being put into a crippling financial position is possible for the layman?
What a shitty argument.
You're using careers that require many more years, perhaps decades of studying as opposed to standard degrees, to actually get into said career for reference as to what some people earn out of university, and then use that to justify university when it's simply-put much more nuanced than that.
Yes, some university degrees enable you to make a huge income. Yes, some university degrees don't enable you to make a huge income.
Thanks for your incredible insight.
I don't know if this is a dumb question, but how do you earn a good living without a degree?
 
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College is a breeding ground for lower-middle class ppl brooding in debt

Finish high school, get into a trade through apprenticeships OR become self-made
Those are your 2 options if u don’t wanna get stuck with crippling debt and a mediocre life
 
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I don't know if this is a dumb question, but how do you earn a good living without a degree?
Do something that doesn't require a degree.
 
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Do you unironically think that studying for 10-12 years without being put into a crippling financial position is possible for the layman?
What a shitty argument.
You're using careers that require many more years, perhaps decades of studying as opposed to standard degrees, to actually get into said career for reference as to what some people earn out of university, and then use that to justify university when it's simply-put much more nuanced than that.
Yes, some university degrees enable you to make a huge income. Yes, some university degrees don't enable you to make a huge income.
Thanks for your incredible insight.
My argument stands it’s grounds for all those who are bluepill influenced by the internet, starting from Gary Vee cuck and all the way till the new 14yr olds who swear they will start a business rather than ever attending college.

“college debt” is mostly just a problem of Americans which is why I still mentioned “if your family is comfortable” meaning enough shekels in the bank, most of the other parts of the world don’t have the same problem.

Do something that doesn't require a degree.
Half of the burger flippers in my nearest Burger King are already doing that and success rate is very low of being financially secure and rich without any degree or with a shit degree.

Whereas if you get a really decent degree there is a 90% guarantee that you will earn the said income for it.
 
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Do something that doesn't require a degree.
Isn't like very instable? I get your idea, but theres no guarantee.
Nor is the guarantee that you will acc get a good job, but it's just more likely,
 
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I left education at 18, started in sales and did really well. Firstly door-to-door, then business to business utilities. Loved it.
That went bad due to government regulations

Then I was a cop, but got fed up of that, but was kind of fun.

Then went back into sales, mainly industrial machinery and domestic/commercial renovation. which paid incredibly well. Was working for myself.

This went a bit shitty, due to more government regulations. So I’ve given that up for the most part.
I got introduced to data engineering and quant finance through some friends, investigated doing that.

I’m not sure what I’ll do next however, but recently decided to do a Mathematics and Statistics degree for three years, starting in January.
I can afford to do so because of the position I’m in financially however.
I’m 34. Just mainly decided to go back to education for fun, challenge, and out of curiosity.

I suppose there’s no set path, so don’t really listen to any bullshit and do what makes sense for you.

DNR. AUTISTIC RAMBLINGS.

KYS WHORE.
 
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I don't know if this is a dumb question, but how do you earn a good living without a degree?
Do something that doesn't require a degree.
Isn't like very instable? I get your idea, but theres no guarantee.
Nor is the guarantee that you will acc get a good job, but it's just more likely,
“how to get money without degree”
“do something that don’t need degree”
“isn’t not getting degree unstable?!???”
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Holy shit, READ, YOU SPASTIC.
 
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My argument stands it’s grounds for all those who are bluepill influenced by the internet, starting from Gary Vee cuck and all the way till the new 14yr olds who swear they will start a business rather than ever attending college.

“college debt” is mostly just a problem of Americans which is why I still mentioned “if your family is comfortable” meaning enough shekels in the bank, most of the other parts of the world don’t have the same problem.


Half of the burger flippers in my nearest Burger King are already doing that and success rate is very low of being financially secure and rich without any degree or with a shit degree.

Whereas if you get a really decent degree there is a 90% guarantee that you will earn the said income for it.
Yeah, well, the implication was to not do the shittiest entry-level jobs to make a living, but I guess inference is not a strong suit for autistic retards like yourself.
 
Yeah, well, the implication was to not do the shittiest entry-level jobs to make a living, but I guess inference is not a strong suit for autistic retards like yourself.
:feelskek: It ain’t that deep bud. If you are butt hurt just because you are NEET I wouldn’t expect anything better from a forum full of NEETmaxxers.
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In Europe the increase in salary vs unskilled work simply isn’t enough for the opportunity cost to ever be regained. Simple as that.
 
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I left education at 18, started in sales and did really well. Firstly door-to-door, then business to business utilities. Loved it.
That went bad due to government regulations

Then I was a cop, but got fed up of that, but was kind of fun.

Then went back into sales, mainly industrial machinery and domestic/commercial renovation. which paid incredibly well. Was working for myself.

This went a bit shitty, due to more government regulations. So I’ve given that up for the most part.
I got introduced to data engineering and quant finance through some friends, investigated doing that.

I’m not sure what I’ll do next however, but recently decided to do a Mathematics and Statistics degree for three years, starting in January.
I can afford to do so because of the position I’m in financially however.
I’m 34. Just mainly decided to go back to education for fun, challenge, and out of curiosity.

I suppose there’s no set path, so don’t really listen to any bullshit and do what makes sense for you.

DNR. AUTISTIC RAMBLINGS.

KYS WHORE.

Are you expecting to live the full undergrad experience and slay through hundreds of teenage girls?
 
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Are you expecting to live the full undergrad experience and slay through hundreds of teenage girls?
I don’t need the experience, but the teenage girls are a plus tbf.
 
I never understood the one sided beef of people opposing getting a college degree. As long as it isn't a useless major like liberal arts, english (JFL at this), or queer studies, it's literally a jump start if you know what you're doing. By no means is it an easy hack, but it sure is rewarding.

CS majors once done from an Ivy League or a decently known college, median salary is 135k per annum in the US which is definitely enough to finance a brand new S Class/ Cadillac Escalade/ GLS AMG or a 3 year old G wagon without draining your pockets.

In medical fields I personally know doctors who make 400k a year, this particular family drives a 4Runner but they can easily afford a Lambo truck or a Ferrari, or a collection of cars including a 7 series + mustang + CT5 blackwing and much more alike. These people have studycelled for around 10-12 years after high school, many are from comfortable families so no college debt. But just look at where they are in life rn -

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In fact 22/25 top earning branches in 2024 were all just doctor specialities. So if you are anything less than 17 while reading this, somewhat NT you have the highest chance of becoming the top 1% by just getting a doctor’s degree in super speciality. It’s a long journey but a fruitful one. If you are wondering that you gotta studycel until the age 30, you’ll be 30 one day anyways nigga so just rather be 30 not being broke and with some serious professional skills that could earn you money.
people who say college is useless are just neets and are coping
 
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Do you unironically think that studying for 10-12 years without being put into a crippling financial position is possible for the layman?
What a shitty argument.
You're using careers that require many more years, perhaps decades of studying as opposed to standard degrees, to actually get into said career for reference as to what some people earn out of university, and then use that to justify university when it's simply-put much more nuanced than that.
Yes, some university degrees enable you to make a huge income. Yes, some university degrees don't enable you to make a huge income.
Thanks for your incredible insight.
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Do you unironically think that studying for 10-12 years without being put into a crippling financial position is possible for the layman?
Yes and on the basis of "just making money" vs time invested (not counting for debt) a trade school in the states currently "mogs."

Wealth isn't so much determined by salary as it is investment. A plumber making 100k/yr vs a doctor making 100k/yr will have more money given that he comes out of school faster, with less debt, and more time to invest.

Though telling entire youth to stop pursuing higher education + networking of other intelligent young people to become plumbers is admittedly backwards
I personally know doctors who make 400k a year, this particular family drives a 4Runner but they can easily afford a Lambo truck or a Ferrari, or a collection of cars including a 7 series + mustang + CT5 blackwing and much more alike. These people have studycelled for around 10-12 years after high school,
"Yes just slave for 10-12 years of entire youth and u can buy some cool cars bro"
 
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I never understood the one sided beef of people opposing getting a college degree. As long as it isn't a useless major like liberal arts, english (JFL at this), or queer studies, it's literally a jump start if you know what you're doing. By no means is it an easy hack, but it sure is rewarding.

CS majors once done from an Ivy League or a decently known college, median salary is 135k per annum in the US which is definitely enough to finance a brand new S Class/ Cadillac Escalade/ GLS AMG or a 3 year old G wagon without draining your pockets.

In medical fields I personally know doctors who make 400k a year, this particular family drives a 4Runner but they can easily afford a Lambo truck or a Ferrari, or a collection of cars including a 7 series + mustang + CT5 blackwing and much more alike. These people have studycelled for around 10-12 years after high school, many are from comfortable families so no college debt. But just look at where they are in life rn -

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In fact 22/25 top earning branches in 2024 were all just doctor specialities. So if you are anything less than 17 while reading this, somewhat NT you have the highest chance of becoming the top 1% by just getting a doctor’s degree in super speciality. It’s a long journey but a fruitful one. If you are wondering that you gotta studycel until the age 30, you’ll be 30 one day anyways nigga so just rather be 30 not being broke and with some serious professional skills that could earn you money.
just have outlier iq or be a woman or nigger who gets the bar lowered for them
 
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Are you expecting to live the full undergrad experience and slay through hundreds of teenage girls?
Big brain niggers are the dumbest niggers while cleatus is banging cunny
 
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The whole "degrees are a scam" narrative is mostly a cope from NEETs who wasted their early 20s and now need a justification. If you're smart enough to get into medicine, engineering or CS and actually grind through, the ROI is obvious – STEM grads consistently out‑earn non‑grads by a huge margin. Trades and apprenticeships can also be lucrative, but they require discipline and physical labour. Not everyone has the aptitude or work ethic for coding or running a business.

Obviously not all majors are equal. Dropping six figures on gender studies and expecting to mog a surgeon is delusion. But dismissing higher education wholesale is ignorant. A degree can give you credentials, networks and cognitive skills that compound over decades. At the same time, the blackpill acknowledges that socioeconomic background matters; kids from rich families can studycel without debt while poorcels risk loans, so weigh your options【225520134505650†L48-L124】. Build a skill stack – technical competence, communication, adaptability – and work on your MPS (money, power, status) rather than whining. Sitting at home coping about "college is useless" won't increase your SMV.
 
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depends on major & cost. a CS/EE/med/quant degree from a decent uni will have you on 6 figs within a few years; random meme majors are cope. a lot of dudes screaming "college is a scam" either did gender studies or wasted their early 20s and need a justification. if you're poor don't blow 200k on a private uni – do community + state, apply scholarships/internships, learn to code/sell. trades (sparkies, plumbers, welders) can mog 9‑3 wages if you're good and you start earning at 20 with zero debt. it's not a cheat code but still one of the easiest paths to top decile income. sitting on forums blackpilling about degrees isn't gonna change your SMV.
 
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