Wheat Waffles vs Tails *BLACKPILL CIVIL WAR* - Government Celibacy TAX + Adultery Laws [Lifefuel]? VOTE IN POLL

[chaddyboi66]

Tails Evisceration:



Waffle's Response:



Which led me to remembering This:

Lex Julia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Augustus' moral legislation (18–17 BC)​

Under Augustus, the leges Juliae of 18–17 BC attempted to elevate both the morals and the numbers of the upper classes in Rome and to increase the population by encouraging marriage and having children (lex Julia de maritandis ordinibus).[28] They also established adultery as a private and public crime (lex Julia de adulteriis).

To encourage population expansion, the leges Juliae offered inducements to marriage and imposed penalties upon the celibate. Augustus instituted the "Law of the three sons" which held those in high regard who produced three male[29] offspring. Marrying-age celibates and young widows who would not marry were prohibited from receiving inheritances and from attending public games.

Avgvstan leges Ivliae:​

• Lex Julia de ambitu (18 BC): Penalising bribery when acquiring political offices.
• Lex Julia de maritandis ordinibus (18 BC): Requiring (likely) all citizens to marry. Also limiting marriage across social class boundaries (and thus seen as an indirect foundation of Roman concubinage (concubinatus), later regulated by Justinian, see also below).
• Lex Julia de adulteriis coercendis (17 BC): This law punished adultery with banishment. The two guilty parties were sent to different islands ("dummodo in diversas insulas relegentur"), and part of their property was confiscated. Fathers were permitted to kill daughters and their partners in adultery.[30] Husbands could kill the partners under certain circumstances and were required to divorce adulterous wives.[30] Augustus himself was obliged to invoke the law against his own daughter, Julia (relegated to the island of Pandateria) and against her eldest daughter (Julia the Younger). Tacitus adds the reproach that Augustus was stricter for his own relatives than the law actually required (Annals III 24).
• Lex Julia de vicesima hereditatum (AD 5): (on inheritance tax) instituted a 5 per cent tax on testamentary inheritances, exempting close relatives.
• Lex Papia Poppaea (AD 9): (to encourage and strengthen marriage) is usually seen as an integral part of Augustus' Julian Laws. The Lex Papia Poppaea also explicitly promoted offspring (within lawful marriage), thus also discriminating against celibacy.
• Lex Julia peculatus: concerning the embezzlement of public property and sacrilege for trial by a quaestio.[31]

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Later updates to the Julian laws​

The extracts below are from later legal codes and textbooks, but are also valuable in the sense that they are based on, and frequently quote from, the actual text of Augustus' laws.

Ulpian (3rd century)​

As written down by Ulpian

The lex Julia relating to marriage(Epitome 13-14) By the terms of the Lex Julia, senators and their descendants are forbidden to marry freedwomen, or women who have themselves followed the profession of the stage, or whose father or mother has done so; other freeborn persons are forbidden to marry a common prostitute, or a procuress, or a woman manumitted by a procurer or procuress, or a woman caught in adultery, or one condemned in a public lawsuit, or one who has followed the profession of the stage.

Justinian (6th century)​

Under the rule of Emperor Justinian
The lex Julia on adultery:

(Institutes 4, 18, 2-3) Public prosecutions are as follows....the Lex Julia for the suppression of adultery punishes with death not only those who dishonour the marriage bed of another but also those who indulge in unspeakable lust with males. The same Lex Julia also punishes the offence of seduction, when a person, without the use of force, deflowers a virgin or seduces a respectable widow. The penalty imposed by the statute on such offenders is the confiscation of half their estate if they are of respectable standing, corporal punishment and banishment in the case of people of the lower orders.

(Digest 4, 4, 37) But as regards the provisions of the Lex Julia....a man who confesses that he has committed the offence [i.e. adultery] has no right to ask for a remission of the penalty on the ground that he was under age; nor, as I have said, will any remission be allowed if he commits any of those offences which the statute punishes in the same way as adultery; as, for example, if he marries a woman who is detected in adultery and he declines to divorce her, or where he makes a profit from her adultery, or accepts a bribe to conceal illicit intercourse which he detects, or lends his house for the commission of adultery or illicit intercourse within it; youth, as I said, is no excuse in the face of clear enactments, when a man who, though he appeals to the law, himself transgresses it.

 

[Xtra]

Tails Evisceration:



Waffle's Response:



Which led me to remembering This:

Lex Julia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Augustus' moral legislation (18–17 BC)​

Avgvstan leges Ivliae:​

• Lex Julia de ambitu (18 BC): Penalising bribery when acquiring political offices.
• Lex Julia de maritandis ordinibus (18 BC): Requiring (likely) all citizens to marry. Also limiting marriage across social class boundaries (and thus seen as an indirect foundation of Roman concubinage (concubinatus), later regulated by Justinian, see also below).
• Lex Julia de adulteriis coercendis (17 BC): This law punished adultery with banishment. The two guilty parties were sent to different islands ("dummodo in diversas insulas relegentur"), and part of their property was confiscated. Fathers were permitted to kill daughters and their partners in adultery.[30] Husbands could kill the partners under certain circumstances and were required to divorce adulterous wives.[30] Augustus himself was obliged to invoke the law against his own daughter, Julia (relegated to the island of Pandateria) and against her eldest daughter (Julia the Younger). Tacitus adds the reproach that Augustus was stricter for his own relatives than the law actually required (Annals III 24).
• Lex Julia de vicesima hereditatum (AD 5): (on inheritance tax) instituted a 5 per cent tax on testamentary inheritances, exempting close relatives.
• Lex Papia Poppaea (AD 9): (to encourage and strengthen marriage) is usually seen as an integral part of Augustus' Julian Laws. The Lex Papia Poppaea also explicitly promoted offspring (within lawful marriage), thus also discriminating against celibacy.
• Lex Julia peculatus: concerning the embezzlement of public property and sacrilege for trial by a quaestio.[31]

---

Later updates to the Julian laws​

The extracts below are from later legal codes and textbooks, but are also valuable in the sense that they are based on, and frequently quote from, the actual text of Augustus' laws.

Ulpian (3rd century)​

As written down by Ulpian

Justinian (6th century)​

Under the rule of Emperor Justinian
The lex Julia on adultery:

Can’t watch as I’m outside rn but let me guess, wheat waffles promotes some mild punishment against cheating while tales sees absolutely nothing wrong with cheating? That’s the vibes i get from that cuck tails

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Tails Evisceration:



Waffle's Response:



Which led me to remembering This:

Lex Julia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Augustus' moral legislation (18–17 BC)​

Avgvstan leges Ivliae:​

• Lex Julia de ambitu (18 BC): Penalising bribery when acquiring political offices.
• Lex Julia de maritandis ordinibus (18 BC): Requiring (likely) all citizens to marry. Also limiting marriage across social class boundaries (and thus seen as an indirect foundation of Roman concubinage (concubinatus), later regulated by Justinian, see also below).
• Lex Julia de adulteriis coercendis (17 BC): This law punished adultery with banishment. The two guilty parties were sent to different islands ("dummodo in diversas insulas relegentur"), and part of their property was confiscated. Fathers were permitted to kill daughters and their partners in adultery.[30] Husbands could kill the partners under certain circumstances and were required to divorce adulterous wives.[30] Augustus himself was obliged to invoke the law against his own daughter, Julia (relegated to the island of Pandateria) and against her eldest daughter (Julia the Younger). Tacitus adds the reproach that Augustus was stricter for his own relatives than the law actually required (Annals III 24).
• Lex Julia de vicesima hereditatum (AD 5): (on inheritance tax) instituted a 5 per cent tax on testamentary inheritances, exempting close relatives.
• Lex Papia Poppaea (AD 9): (to encourage and strengthen marriage) is usually seen as an integral part of Augustus' Julian Laws. The Lex Papia Poppaea also explicitly promoted offspring (within lawful marriage), thus also discriminating against celibacy.
• Lex Julia peculatus: concerning the embezzlement of public property and sacrilege for trial by a quaestio.[31]

---

Later updates to the Julian laws​

The extracts below are from later legal codes and textbooks, but are also valuable in the sense that they are based on, and frequently quote from, the actual text of Augustus' laws.

Ulpian (3rd century)​

As written down by Ulpian

Justinian (6th century)​

Under the rule of Emperor Justinian
The lex Julia on adultery:

Wheat will try sell you a course on how to not be like tails

Yep tails wins fuck thag plug wheat

 

[Lulleko]

I love watching 2 unemployed fucks discussing how to improve society and economy.

 

[tombradylover]

No way ppl still unironically watch wheat waffles. Hes legitimately stupid. Tails is OG but also retarded and unemployed. Id rather watch porn then these two debate

 

[sub5outsider]

WW is a normie trying to appeal to normies who dont know that are incels.

 

[Brus Wane]

DNW... Kinda tired of both waffles and tails these days... Both have become annoyingly repetitive... Tails has also become abit of a cuck... He openly mocks Asians and Curries, yet wants us to sympathise with vegetable humans...



Anyway my 2 cents...

Incentives and penalties that governments put on people to have kids always fail.
It's not going to change anything.

Wheat and Tails need to understand that. Otherwise they're just as dumb as the millions of copers out there.

People in first world countries aren't going to become parents, because for the most part, it is a personal decision to be childless.

Often times they'd rather just pay the extra tax. IIRC Augustus did something like this to his nobles and senators... Most of them were like ah fuck it and paid up.

Nobody is gonna suddenly squeeze out a bunch of crotch goblins in the name of "preserving ethnic heritage", "national solidarity" or "public service". That's just retarded thinking.

are the only exception.
As fucked up as they are, these people are the only ones that understand that if you don't breed, the goyim will outbreed you. Simple as that.

The whole "cost of living" excuse is cope.

It's just a way for people to seem "unselfish" for not breeding.

It almost never has anything to do with money.

Men
1) are too caught up in slaying/career
2) fear financial repercussions of divorce/child support
3) simply can't find a mate (inkwelldom)

Women
a) prefer to chase a high flying career
b) do not want to be bogged down by raising kids and "looking after" a man
c) hypergamy removes most men as a potential mate

And both genders would much rather spend that spare cash on travelling and good food

In the long run, the most sensible & feasible solution is immigration. Like it or not.
It's not even really a debate at this point.

There are just 2 questions that need to be answered for it to work out well.

How many immigrants do you want?
A couple hundred a year? Or half a million? The more precise the number, the better.

What kind of immigrants do you want?
Males? Or females?
Cheap labour? Or high IQ performers?
Shitskins? Or cumskins?

No sense in being overly protectionist like the 4 retards in NEA


But it's also equally stupid to import low quality races like some western states... and in such big numbers too... Yuck!


Anyway, it's unrealistic to tax spinsters and bachelors in a democracy.
That shit won't take off.

The fact that there's a birth rate crisis means most people are childless.

And most people are going to oppose a higher tax rate on themselves.

The faster everyone accepts this the better.

As for adultery.... It's touchy but...

People shouldn't be "punished" since it isn't really the government's business, but to me if you're the victim, the law MUST prevent any further (financial) damages to you.

Meaning you will ultimately owe zero in a settlement IF you can prove you're the injured party.
Exception when it comes to supporting your kid, in which the "cucked" party MUST have the upper hand in negotiations.

it would help for guys a bit ... to educate boys on cuckoldry and a but of blackpill during sex ed in school, to teach them not to be simps and that marriage and starting a family always comes with risks.

It should be seen as starting a business:

~ How much am I risking?
~ What am I going to get out of it?
~ How much do I lose if it "goes bankrupt"?
~ How sure am I of the above 3 questions ?

 

[Kamui]

I love watching 2 unemployed fucks discussing how to improve society and economy.

Factual

 

[Pierrot]

Tails Evisceration:



Waffle's Response:



Which led me to remembering This:

Lex Julia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Augustus' moral legislation (18–17 BC)​

Avgvstan leges Ivliae:​

• Lex Julia de ambitu (18 BC): Penalising bribery when acquiring political offices.
• Lex Julia de maritandis ordinibus (18 BC): Requiring (likely) all citizens to marry. Also limiting marriage across social class boundaries (and thus seen as an indirect foundation of Roman concubinage (concubinatus), later regulated by Justinian, see also below).
• Lex Julia de adulteriis coercendis (17 BC): This law punished adultery with banishment. The two guilty parties were sent to different islands ("dummodo in diversas insulas relegentur"), and part of their property was confiscated. Fathers were permitted to kill daughters and their partners in adultery.[30] Husbands could kill the partners under certain circumstances and were required to divorce adulterous wives.[30] Augustus himself was obliged to invoke the law against his own daughter, Julia (relegated to the island of Pandateria) and against her eldest daughter (Julia the Younger). Tacitus adds the reproach that Augustus was stricter for his own relatives than the law actually required (Annals III 24).
• Lex Julia de vicesima hereditatum (AD 5): (on inheritance tax) instituted a 5 per cent tax on testamentary inheritances, exempting close relatives.
• Lex Papia Poppaea (AD 9): (to encourage and strengthen marriage) is usually seen as an integral part of Augustus' Julian Laws. The Lex Papia Poppaea also explicitly promoted offspring (within lawful marriage), thus also discriminating against celibacy.
• Lex Julia peculatus: concerning the embezzlement of public property and sacrilege for trial by a quaestio.[31]

---

Later updates to the Julian laws​

The extracts below are from later legal codes and textbooks, but are also valuable in the sense that they are based on, and frequently quote from, the actual text of Augustus' laws.

Ulpian (3rd century)​

As written down by Ulpian

Justinian (6th century)​

Under the rule of Emperor Justinian
The lex Julia on adultery:

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